as live as you think?

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    ChooseYourPoison

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    I was watching LIT on monday and I realized that during "Don't Stay" a lot of Brad's strumming doesn't match up with the music. Same with Figure 0.9 with Phoenix's base. I also noticed that during Papercut Mike's words don't always match up with the music either. Is there an explination to this, or am I just insane?
     
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    Insanity is an option.

    It's the stupid DVD thing. It just sounds bad because of how they recorded it. The chinese DVD of LIT is much better.
     
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    I have seen DVD players occasionally get the audio and video out of sync on other movies. Usually you need to stop the movie and resume for it to re-sync
     
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    For the last time: (I feel like I've explained this a million times)

    Live in Texas' footage was recorded at 2 shows, and the video was spliced together. The video you see isn't necessarily from the same song you hear, hell it isn't necessarily even from the same concert as the audio. On Don't Stay for example, you can see shots of Brad holding a black guitar, and shots of him holding a red guitar. He only uses the black one to play Don't Stay, but they used footage from throughout the 2 concerts for the song. The DVD is basically a montage of live footage from the 2 concerts spliced over audio with some songs from one concert and some from the other.

    The audio is live, nothing was dubbed or re-recorded in a studio. The video just doesn't always match up with what you hear because that's just how it was edited together.
     
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    They probably make their live performance's better too.
     
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    I think it's stupid to splice them together. I think they should have just kept it raw.
     
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    Marilyn Manson & Nine Inch Nails have done this before too.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    I can vouch that LP plays everything themselves. I have tons of bootlegs of them fucking up live :lol:
     
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    i have a few bootlegs where the guys mess up
     
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    I think Live in Texas is.....LIVE.
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    reeaaaally?
     
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    yes....why? :shifty:
     
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    *hand to forehead*




    :rolleyes:
     
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    Berlin 09.12.2001...there were at least 5 mistakes in that show (sorry for offtopic)

    I don't like that how they made the crowd too quiet on LIT...
     
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    god, thx, i've always wanted an explanation about the idea of having filmed the DVD at two shows. i never understood it.
     
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    i totally agree that they shouldn't put the 2 shows together but are we experts in DVD recording ? :p i think not (can be wrong) so maybe it's better like this. One thing i think is really weird they say about a thousand times like "see these extra cameras on stage it's just to film you guys in the crowd" but you don't really see much of the crowd a specially not when they say they're going to film the muchpit at the end of the dvd and you only see it very short.

    BUT STILL THINK ITS A GREAT CONCERT DVD !
     
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    I think the reason they filmed 2 shows was to actually prevent from having to do overdubbing in the studio. By filming 2 shows, it made it so if they messed something up at one show, they could take the better of the 2 for that song, instead of having to go in the studio and fix it, which would make it a less-live DVD.

    But realistically, it wouldn't surprise me at all if a little bit of dubbing/editing was done in the studio when they mixed the DVD. Most commercially successful live albums have some overdubbing done afterwards in the studio, for the simple reason that you can't do everything perfect at a live show, and the artists want to put out the best sounding material they can. One example that comes to mind is Kiss' Alive! album, from way back in 1975. That album has gone platinum at least 5 times over from what I remember, and they overdubbed/enhanced a lot of the vocals in the studio, as well as splicing together crowd cheering noises to make the crowd seem louder than it really was.
     
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    well,that aint live anymore
     
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    well,that aint live anymore [/b][/quote]
    You might as well say that the whole package shouldn't be called Live In Texas because it's a recording and the show isn't being played while you watch it. They spliced two performances together and overdubbed the result, so it is still a live album per se.

    At least they didn't mess with the vocals. Chester sings remarkably well in his performance, although you can hear his voice starting to crack towards the end.
     

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