I just don't think it's nurture. Of all the gay people I know, none of them were brought up in an environment that would have anything that would make them gay, and it doesn't explain why siblings who were raised in the same household are straight. And a few gay people I know were brought up in religious households that taught that homosexuality was a sin and all gay people were going to hell - that's not exactly the kind of nurturing that would make one gay. Now, whether one chooses to act on their homosexual desires is another thing. I think someone raised by religious and bigoted parents might stay closeted and force themselves to date the opposite sex, yet deep down know they're gay, versus someone raised by loving parents who couldn't care less would probably come out and be openly gay. But they're both gay - one is just lying about being straight.
How so? It's a choice if you want to come out of the closet or not, but even those who choose to hide it and stay in the closet are still gay and still know they're gay. They can lie and say they're straight just like I can lie and say I'm gay, even though I'm straight. But I'm still straight, and didn't choose to be straight, and neither did you.
They aren't choosing to be gay. For all we know, that kind of upbringing could have been part of the reason for them being homosexual. I feel I should kind of edit my older posts all in one. I think there are some people, no matter what happens to them in their lives, that will always be straight. But there are some people, maybe even most people, that are born more prone to being gay when they grow up. There could just be something in their brains that make it easier for the environment to influence them. But you don't come out of the chute a predetermined homosexual.
You don't know that. Although, I can agree that sometimes the environment might play a role. However, if you can be born heterosexual, why *can't* you be born homosexual?
Maybe you're not born anything. Maybe you're born with a clean slate and go from there. I don't know. I'd rather talk about something more scientific lol. There's too many opinions regarding this subject.
As much as I'd like to discuss scientific things too, it's hard to do that since we're not all scientific experts on the subject.
Having grown up as a young, bisexual woman in a New Jersey suburb I can say that I have heard a lot of arguments about sexuality that have tweaked my nerves to one extent or another. I have been persecuted, excommunicated, taunted, and even beaten for my sexuality. I've been told that I am going through a "phase". I've been told that "bisexuality isn't real" and that I am faking it for attention. I've been told that the devil has entered me. I've been told that I made this "decision" because of my past sexual experiences. I can offer up this to all of you, and you can take it for what it's worth: I have been with men that I have loved. I have been with women that I have loved. I didn't fall in love with their hair, their eyes, or (of most importance to this thread) their gender. I fell in love with their souls. I can't tell you what makes the LGBTQ community the way they are. I can't tell you why any of us fall in love with the people we fall in love with. But the question I always find myself asking is: "Why does it matter?"
.in.the.shadows. oh how are stories are similar. was raised in a very conservative christian home, brought up (brainwashed mind you) that christianty was inherently the end all, the entire purpose of life. around 17 realized i was bi-sexual, didn't accept it until late 19. turned 21 in january, and what may seem cliche to say, i cannot tell you how incredibly terrible my experience has been. . was hanging out with a friend (his mom thought i may be bi-sexual, had the audacity to call him while we were hanging out and tell me to leave, i called her later asking why, it was entirely related to being bi-sexual, she called it a sin and of the devil) . dad went to an "ex-gay" conference where they taught him all sorts of propoganda which he brought back to me. he returned with a book on how to overcome my sexuality, thought its been about 2 years since i've told him he still doesn't really except it, the other day semi-exploded at me asking "do you really like kissing guys?" (i didn't even know what to say) . my former pastor took me out to taco bell and wanted to know about it . i don't define myself by my sexuality in anyway, its literally just another part of me as much as my enjoyment of taco bell and linkin park, however everyone seems to want to insist it be my definition . (all this hence why i created this thread) in other words, you're not alone.
You see, now here is where I would have to disagree, Religion, in and of itself, is not inherently a bad thing. In fact, I believe that some people take a lot of comfort in their religion and is has the ability to work well in their lives. However, corruption and personal agendas od certain figure heads of some religions can make things difficult...
Morally I don't think there's anything wrong with it either way, for the simple reason that it's not really your place to tell people what to do sexually or romantically if it isn't causing any harm.
No no, I was referring to my beliefs, lol. I believe "love" transcends traditional morality, as even the most moral among us the "preachers" "politicians" etc are all hypocrites. I don't really believe in a static morality is what I was getting at.