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    ReanimatedTheory

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    Does anyone else think that carousel......was one of Mike's attempts at writing Breaking the Habit, if you sorta listen the lyrics are about the same thing.
     
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    Not at all.....I dont think the lyrics aren anywhere near related :wth:
     
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    nooot exactly.... :mellow:
     
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    I think that it could have been. I do see a similarity between the lyrics, especially on Mike's Second Verse on Carousel.
     
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    yeah the lyrics are completely different...like in carasoul there talking about a specific person and in breaking the habit is made for everyone to relate to....(i can especially with my addiction to drugs)
     
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    yeah. the lyrics of both songs are differrent, but everyone has a certain point of view so maybe to u they're alike.
     
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    I think they're similar.

    What makes the different in your guys' minds?
     
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    Everything. First off, Mike said he wanted to try and write somethign with an orchestra, but nothing ever worked, secondly, the lyrics in Carousel are basically examples of how these people are suffering in a way, and Breaking the Habit is how a person cant handle what they do to themself
     
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    It's a possibility, but if you've ever learned in English class, the songs are written in different styles.

    One is written in third person (Carousel), and one is written in first (Breaking The Habit).

    If you're saying they're both suicidal, and that is the connection, you're likely to be wrong, in my opinion. In my opinion, the part of Carousel where Mike says "Cut myself willingly just to stop what's killing me," it's not expressing to kill yourself--or cutting yourself. It's a metaphoric way to say that you want to get away from everything. If it were suicidal, it's be more along the lines of "Cut myself away just to see myself bleed," or "Cutting myself away just to see myself die"

    Personally I don't believe that everything I say is accurate, but I do not believe that the songs are in any way related, even though the thought has probably been with Mike for awhile, I don't think Carousel was an attempt. Also, if you think about it, Mike sort of made an expression as this being the first song that's been written where he's liked it--assuming that that was the only recorded/released attempt at his Breaking the Habit goal.

    Just my opinion.

    edit: Also, if you think about it, Mike said he's never been able to write words in this fashion until Meteora, where Chester wrote lyrics that 'captured' his liking, so it doesn't seem like Carousel was in any intent to be similar to Breaking the Habit.
     
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    That's from "Part of Me," Keaton. :lol:
     
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    I don't think the songs are similar at all.

    Like Keaton said, "Carousel" is written in the 3rd-person and is about 2 people who have addictions that are ruining their lives. "Breaking The Habit" is written in the 1st-person and is about a person who can't understand why he's the way he is.

    ...Yep.
     
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    That's from "Part of Me," Keaton. :lol: [/b][/quote]
    Haha, sorry, I was out of it earlier.

    None the less.

    Carousel was written differently :lol:.

    Disreguard the fact I said the wrong song!

    Makes you wonder... "What the f**k was he on?!" :lol:

    a few minutes later... Oh God I feel so stupid now :lol: :chemist: :(
     
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    no, they are different
     
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    I didnt mean they were exactly the same, but Mike stated that he had been trying to write Breaking the Habit for like 6years, Carousel couldve been one of his tries I mean, "He cant get off the crousel until he makes it stop" could be a metaphore fer like.......he cant break his habit...until he stops what he's doing.....you have to see the similarities........ :mike:
     
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    Again, what he meant by that was hes been trying to write an orchestrated song for the past 6 years
     
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    Yes, Mike didn't say he was writing words to the song, just an orchestra related song. It was a lyrical idea area, not a type of lyrical style.

    (Yes, I have got the song comparisons right this time)

    Carousel was never about suicidal tendancies as Breaking the Habit had. Carousel is basically just about problems, and these people drive themselves into the ground about them and do nothing about them but lie. That leads to problems as shutting people out of their lives and such. It's more of a comfort song for those who feel this way.

    On the other hand, Breaking the Habit talks about one who is fed up with misunderstanding themselves and takes it to the extreme of eliminating themselves from the people around. This song is not so comforting as it describes the confusion and misunderstandings in their life, so therefor is willing to kill themself (or so it seems).

    Ha, I got the right song this time! :lol:

    Again, to mention that they're written differently, one being third and one being first person, it's really different. If Mike were writing songs like Breaking the Habit, they'd be more stationary to the style, in this case, one style is the fact that Breaking the Habit is written in first person.

    I'm sorry, but I don't see any relation. A lot of Meteora's songs deal with 'pain' or not feeling good about yourself, so by saying Carousel is like Breaking the Habit, in my opinion, is like saying a song like Easier to Run must be like Carousel and Breaking the Habit.
     

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