Lying

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    I love to lie.
     
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    Honesty is the best policy. In the end lies only make a situation worse. Of course in life there are a few exception but genrally lying is bad and not something that you should get into the habit of doing.
     
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    lying to protect someone else is fine. otherwise, you are a loser.
     
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    that's what i thought too
    but in the end when they find out the truth it hurts more
    for ex. cheating
    obviously if you cheat in a relationship it's going to hurt the other person so you lie to protect them but when they find out just think about how hurt they will be that you were hiding that for so long and that you just continued a relationship like nothing happened. it's happened to me and all i'm going to say is you'll never know how much that really hurts till you've experienced it yourself.

    so to those that say lying to protect someone else is fine it's really not. it's just as bad.
     
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    yeah but if you lie to protect someone from something really bad...like you have their drugs or something and you lie to protect them...that would be a good example. cuz i was caught with micahel's cigarettes, and i told the truth. but if i lied then i would still be able to see him.
     
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    Is it really?

    Is it not someone's own responsibility to take care for himself/herself, and not yours? Is it not better if a person were not to ask questions on wich he/she does *not* want an answer at all, instead of asking them anyway, thrusting the responsibility in *your* hands instead?

    I don't lie to people, it's that simple.

    If someone asks me if he/she looks good, while they know that I'm always honest, and he/she looks like ####, then I will just say it like that. I'll try to be somewhat mild, but I'll always tell the truth. If that person doesn't want to hear that he/she looks bad, then they shouldn't ask my honest opinion. That's what I believe.

    Because by lying 'for their own good', you accept the responsibility they thrust in your hands.. Why should you accept that responsibility and not other responsilibity's of the same person? Why not clean their room while you're at it?
     
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    Gah, I try not to lie, but I did last night. Let's just say it made the situation worse, I should practice what I preach.
     
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    It depends on the cause, or situation. Basically it's waht you deem morally acceptable.
     
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    Word.

    (I didn't say that!)

    I mean.. I dont lie!

    I mean... yeah!
    :lol:


    Lying is situation dependent.
     
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    i hate lying. i dont do it(very often, i really try not to lie, its hard sometimes, thoguh). i try to be as honest as possible.
    but ppl lie everyday. there is no way to get away from it.
    sugar coating is different that lying, but has the same principals.
    but being honest doesnt mean that you go over and tell someone flat out that u think they are ugly, that is just mean! keep it to urself, that isnt lying and ur not hurting anyone.
    lying is very complicated, i think alot of it stems from insecurities
     
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    well i think lying it really nessacery in the time u feel that truth it immposible to been said .... but if there no nessacery so it better not to lie
     
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    Sometimes you just really have to lie
     
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    Well, I lied yesterday...telling someone I was this person when I'm actually not :chemist: . I don't think that was too evil though.
     
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    You know, this is interesting because when I think of the word "lying", it can mean so many different things in situations. Sometimes, a lie is what hurts people the most and other times, it's a lie that saves someone from getting hurt. It all depends on the situation I guess. I mostly agreed with what people here say but here's a crude example of my own:

    When it's not acceptable to lie:
    You shouldn't lie if the lie that you tell will end up hurting someone sooner or later. Whether it's boyfriends/girlfriends cheating on each other, friends giving away each other's secrets, etc., lying will probably end up doing more bad than good. Sometimes, you think you're protecting someone's interests by lying, but if they find out the truth for themselves later on, it might just hurt them even more. Lying in a relationship is not acceptable, especially cheating. If you're gonna cheat on someone, just tell them you wanna break up because you're no longer interested in them. Goofing around at other people's expense is the lowest thing ever, and so is toying with people's emotions. I don't think it's a big deal for people to change their feelings about a person, but telling the truth and breaking it off right away is better than lying and prolonging the hurt for the person you're cheating on.

    When it might be okay to lie:
    When it comes to more trivial things, I don't think lying is such a big deal. For example, if a kid is going to get punished by his parents for stealing a candy bar, then it's no biggie if he lies and says he didn't steal anything. That's just a small example, but my point is if the lie doesn't hurt people, then also it doesn't hurt to lie.

    When it's acceptable to lie:
    If you know your sister has just broken up with her abusive boyfriend and the boyfriend calls your house one day asking to speak to her, you might lie and say your sister's not home. You'd still be telling a lie, but it would be a good lie that has saved a lot of complications. There are tons of other situations where it's acceptable to lie, but it's up to your own common sense and judgement to know where to draw the line. :)

    I try not to lie, especially to my friends and family, but when I don't have a choice, I do it anyway and if it's a lie that betrays their confidence in me, I'd mostly feel bad for it.
     
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    ^^

    The first I agree with, the second 2 however my opinion differs. In the case of the child stealing a candybar: The parents should have the intelligence nót to ask if he's stolen a candybar, or if he says that he did they shouldn't be angry. Because otherwise, they'd fórce him to lie, even though it's a small one, but it's a start and lying will be easier later on. And in the case of the abusive boyfriend I'd just tell him that she is indeed home but he can #### off, and it'd tell it in no uncertain terms.. I mean, he would not be worth it changing my morals and principles for.
     
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    I think it's bad to lie, wether it's a little, or big lie. No matter what the reason of your lie is, it's better to just be honest. Probably about 90% of us isn't though :wth:
     
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    I think when it is REALLY necessary to say something that isn't true is acceptable, but when you hurt someone by lying it isn't. You should tell people what they need to know, the TRUTH.
     

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