John Edwards vs. Richard Cheney

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    Today After Tomorrow

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    Just about all of you say that Cheney won...

    ...Since when do you win a debate by lieing about everything possible?

    Too much "body language" is used in the decision on who won a debate. President Cheney, oh sorry, Vice President Cheney constantly told lies about everything he could. And it wasn't small lies - They were lies that are very easily prooven to be lies.

    "I have not suggested there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11." In a radio interview in January 2004, Cheney said: "I think there's overwhelming evidence that there was a connection between Al Qaeda and the Iraqi government." First there was a connection, now there isn't? HE'S FLIP FLOPPING!!

    "We have added 1.7 million jobs to the economy." On November 2nd, George Bush will be the first president in 70 years to lose jobs. There will be about a million fewer jobs than there were when Bush took office, and about 7 million fewer than Bush's own post-9/11 estimate.

    And he doesn't just lie about the important issues. He even lies about a stupid thing like not meeting John Edwards before. "The first time I ever met you[Senator John Edwards] was when you walked on stage tonight." They met when Edwards escorted Elizabeth Dole to be sworn in by Cheney as Senator and at the National Prayer Breakfast(where Richard Cheney even mentions John Edwards name, and they sit beside each other). So first he knows John Edwards and now he doesn't. HE'S FLIP FLOPPING AGAIN!!

    Everyday I see a Bush/Cheney 04' sign in a yard, or a bumper sticker on a car I just wonder indisbelief how a person could be that stupid. If I had the time i'd love to stop at each and every house I see with a Bush/Cheney sign and ask them why they're voting for George Bush - And then absolutly destroy anything they say. Everything coming from these people is a lie. I just don't even know what to say about it. It just boggles my mind on how uninformed people can be.
     
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    Whoa, I think over 2/3's of LPA's population is a Kerry Supporter.

    I think the only Bush supporters here are Derek & I.

    EDIT: Haha, and I guess you're going to ask me why I support Bush too, huh? Don't bother, you won't change my mind.
     
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    That's a shame. I feel sorry for you and Derek.
     
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    I feel sorry for you and the Flip Flop Supporters.
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHA. And George Bush doesn't flip flop? You're kidding yourself. At least John Kerry has the balls to admit when he was wrong. If he thought something and it was prooven to be wrong he has the balls to say that he was wrong and change his mind. There's absolutly nothing wrong with that. Bush still claims he'd due everything the exact same way if he had to do it all over again. That would really piss you off if you paid attention to what was really happening over there in Iraq. But hey, who cares about those Iraqi's right?!

    I truely, and I mean truely, feel sorry for you. And it may be mean, but I'll be sure to come running to the LPA Forums as soon as John Kerry is announced as the next President of the United States and let you know. ;)
     
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    Yes, Bush is a tad bit stubborn...and stubborn does not equal tough or right or even consistent as so many bush supporters seem to think ^_^
     
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    Understatement of the millenia. :p
     
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    i support bush also
     
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    Party at my place! :lol:
     
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    http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryho...le/pentagon.php

    For those that haven't seen that.

    If you have then avoid the post.

    If you haven't seen it. See it! Then think.. that the one administration during power was that and only of Bush.

    Then think.. even more.. you still want to vote for a person that covers up something like this? Then think even more.. was 9/11 staged up? That the whole purpose of all this crap about IRAQ and Hussein .. was it really "true"? Did he do the right thing? I dunno.. What seems like a "missile" hitting the pentagon and then afterwards make the whole nation believe it was a freaking plane that hit that!

    Only left me with what I want to call Bush: Liar.

    That is all I will comment and I really hope Kerry wins.
     
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    Are you trying to say Bush was a co-conspirator in the 9/11 attacks? :huh:
     
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    I am only giving those questions and giving that flash for others to view. For me it has left me with one thing to think of the guy and that's nothing but a liar. A missile or some "projectile" didn't hit the Pentagon for no reason. I am pretty sure Mr Bush knows.

    I am calling his team and whoever was in charge of that liars because no damn plane hit the damn thing >=/ why the hell would you lie about something so huge.. there is a reason behind it. You don't have to lie for no reason unless is something you don't want people too look hard at you for.
     
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    Yes Yes, I get you're reasoning behind saying all that, but to me it sounds like you're saying Bush & bin Laden planned 9/11 out over Thanksgiving Turkey or something.

    If you're not, I apologize.
     
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    Even with that flash for me to be like how I am.. I can't come up with a statement like that. I have no facts or evidence. This flash only shows me that something was "planned" that is all I know. I am not saying he did that though xD.

    I dunno why was it planned.
    Or the purpose of the plan.
    And finally why they lied >=/

    It could be that he could of been teaming up with Bin laden or some crap like how you said[or understood that from what I said which is not what I meant xD] , but I have no evidence to back that up so I am not going to just sum it all up into that. All I know is that there was a plan.. a plan but for what? >=/
     
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    personally i thought Cheney didn't do too bad for himself on Tuesday. :thumbsup:
     
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    I don't really care if you support Bush or not, because you can't vote. There's no sense in trying to change your mind. As for me, I'm an outside party sharing opinions. My vote does not need to be counted because I won't be a future voter in the US.

    As for those of you who can vote and are voting for Bush, you should read what I, Will, Todd, Shade and Today After Tomorrow have said. None of what we have said is a lie, it's all the truth. You'll regret another four years under Bush more than you can understand in the next few years. And the world will too.

    With Bush;
    - Terrorists will want to attack your country even more.
    - The environment will continue to deteriorate.
    - More hazardous wastes will be spilled into your nearby lakes.
    - Nuclear power plants will continue to be unsafely guarded.
    - Cargo on airplanes will continue to be unchecked.
    - More jobs will be lost.
    - Your health care system will continue to be in shambles.
    - Your country will still go into other countries with no evidence of WMDs against the wishes of some f your closest allies in the UN.
    - North Korea will continue to get more nuclear missiles.
    - Corporate America will still continue to get favoritism and tax breaks in absolute unfairness to the other 90% of America.
    - There will be less jobs. Especially for you younger voters.

    And that's just after three minutes of thinking.
     
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    any time he goes a whole day without having a heart attack can be considered not too bad for the old sh*t
     
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    He was. Maybe not George Bush himself BUT people inside the Bush Administration(Cheney, Rumsfeld) knew about it and helped plan it to happen. Using airplanes and crashing them into big city's has been tried before by our very own government. Back when Kennedy was president the CIA proposed that they would "hijack" and fly a plane into a big US city in order to justify an attack on Cuba. It's a perfect plan for people who have no regard for human life and just want to control another country. Kennedy would have none of that though and said no. And hey, guess what?! He was shortly after assasinated. They couldn't have that information in the hands of someone who didn't support it. Fast forward a whole lot of years and we have people like Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz who openly stated that they wanted to remove Saddam Hussein's regime from power and have a more assertive US policy in the Middle East. In a report just before the 2000 election the group predicted that the shift would come about slowly, unless there were "some catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor." Well hey, what do you know? About one year later that very event they needed happened: the September 11 attacks! And hey, Richard Cheney: Vice President; Donald Rumsfeld: Secretary of Defense; Paul Wolfowitz: Rumsfeld's Deputy at the Pentagon. They all had the power to make their very plan(removing Saddam's regime) work as quickly as possible. Let's be honest: Bush is their puppet and will do whatever they say. The next morning(9/12) Rumsfeld insisted at a Cabinet meeting that Iraq should be "a principal target of the first round of terrorism." This is even before the Bush Administration "knew who did it." So this plan of removing Saddam began in 1997 - when Bill Clinton was still president(ahhhh those were the days!) and none of these people had any power. 3 years later they're back in power. 1 year after that the exact thing they needed and wanted to happen happened. Wow all that sure is odd!

    http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/D...nac_030310.html
    http://www.newamericancentury.org
     
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    He was. Maybe not George Bush himself BUT people inside the Bush Administration(Cheney, Rumsfeld) knew about it and helped plan it to happen. Using airplanes and crashing them into big city's has been tried before by our very own government. Back when Kennedy was president the CIA proposed that they would "hijack" and fly a plane into a big US city in order to justify an attack on Cuba. It's a perfect plan for people who have no regard for human life and just want to control another country. Kennedy would have none of that though and said no. And hey, guess what?! He was shortly after assasinated. They couldn't have that information in the hands of someone who didn't support it. Fast forward a whole lot of years and we have people like Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz who openly stated that they wanted to remove Saddam Hussein's regime from power and have a more assertive US policy in the Middle East. In a report just before the 2000 election the group predicted that the shift would come about slowly, unless there were "some catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor." Well hey, what do you know? About one year later that very event they needed happened: the September 11 attacks! And hey, Richard Cheney: Vice President; Donald Rumsfeld: Secretary of Defense; Paul Wolfowitz: Rumsfeld's Deputy at the Pentagon. They all had the power to make their very plan(removing Saddam's regime) work as quickly as possible. Let's be honest: Bush is their puppet and will do whatever they say. The next morning(9/12) Rumsfeld insisted at a Cabinet meeting that Iraq should be "a principal target of the first round of terrorism." This is even before the Bush Administration "knew who did it." So this plan of removing Saddam began in 1997 - when Bill Clinton was still president(ahhhh those were the days!) and none of these people had any power. 3 years later they're back in power. 1 year after that the exact thing they needed and wanted to happen happened. Wow all that sure is odd!

    http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/D...nac_030310.html
    http://www.newamericancentury.org [/b][/quote]
    I love people who know what they're talking about.

    The only real problem I have with Cheney is that he opposes gay marraiges when his own daughter is a lesbian. :wth:
     

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