Michael Moore Will Not Seek Best Documentary Oscar

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    Michael Moore knowingly withdrew his Fahrenheit 9/11 film, a film critics say was a sure-shot to win the "Best Documentary" Oscar, from contention for an Academy Award recently. Moore plans to show the film on a major national television network before the Nov. 2 American presidential election, thus violating a rule that a documentary cannot air on television within nine months of it's release (the film was released July 25th).

    Mike wrote a letter to his fans on MichaelMoore.com;

    So unselfish. I hope this and the early DVD release in October really swings the vote. Let's hope a network picks it up, it'd be gold in ratings.
     
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    If Moore is hoping his film airing before the Elections will help Kerry win...it probably won't.

    Bush is winning in the polls now, and I've heard most Americans don't trust Kerry now, for some reason. I'm guessing it's because he's gotten agressive in his recent tour stops.

    Anyways, I don't like Michael Moore. I used to, but now he's just as annoying as Bill O'Reilly. I much prefer Al Franken.
     
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    I think the film could easily sway what is needed to help Kerry.
     
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    Doesn't it say alot when a film might change the voters minds, instead of the people who are running? It seems weird that a movie could change our nation. That's just me though.

    EDIT: Here's a question. If a movie came out like this, but was directed towards Kerry, would people have the same response towards it? Or do people respond so passionately to this movie because of the subjectmatter, or who the 'Main Character' is?
     
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    The main thing about try to change the voters minds is to get the person you want (John Kerry) to win.

    Besides, Michael Moore agreeswith most of the things John Kerry stands for. They both want the troops home, and Kerry seems promising in environmental preservation; a big issue for Moore. Bush took the US out of the Kyoto treaty, thus pretty much screwing over the environment, and Moore didn't like that either. The film will be aired to try to make sure Bush doesn't get back in.
     
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    Bah, I don't want to edit again.

    If Michael Moore feels so strongly about Kerry, why doesn't he go on the Campagin Trail for him and speak to the crowds?

    I don't remember if Moore was the Democratic National Convention or not. Was he?
     
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    Many people find Michael Moore too abrasive and the Democrats would rather him stay at the sidelines and make these public appearances against Bush. He's more of a Bush-basher than a Kerry-supporter. All he cares about is getting Bush out before he causes more damage.

    Besides, Moore is much too busy to talk to Democrats at conventions who will probably vote for Kerry anyways. There's no sense in trying to sway the minds of people who will most likely vote Democratic. Moore's mission is to sway Republican voters, not rally up the Democratic voters.
     
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    Eh, I'm still thinking that Moore is trying to milk every last penny out of that film.

    If he hates Bush so much, let the public know it. Well, the public does know it, but don't show a movie. That just makes you seem greedy, atleast in my eyes.

    I don't really know what to think anymore. On the one hand, what he's doing is respectable. He dislike's Bush, and is doing everything in his (limited) celebrity status to get him out of office.

    But then again, attempting to get the film on TV before the Elections seems like he has more in mind than just changing some people's minds.

    Meh. I guess in the next month or two, we'll really see if this works. I dislike Bush just as much as the next guy. I'm curious as to if Moore is willing to sabatoge his DVD deal to get this on TV.
     
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    What are you talking about? Don't let your hate for Mooore cloud your judgement.

    The biggest and best thing to do to try to sway voters minds is show a powerful and persuasive film like Fahrenheit 9/11 to millions on primetime television. There's nothing that will be more effective than that. Teens who most likely won't vote might get up off the sofas and think they need to do something. People too lazy or too poor to spend $10 at a movie theatre will see it for free.

    Besides, Moore is a pretty big celebrity. This whole Fahrenheit 9/11 thing has propelled his status to superstar director. I know that doesn't compare to Tom Cruise or Britney Spears, but most everyone knows who Michael Moore is. Even John McCain mentioned him (not his name, but everyone knew who he was talking about) in his speech at the Republican National Convention.

    I truly think Moore would sabotage this DVD deal IF he could find a network to show it. But the doubt of that happening might just push it to DVD release.
     
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    Hey, if Moore can get this thing on TV, and get my parents to get off their asses and vote for Kerry, more power to him.

    But, in the back of my mind, I'm wondering if Moore just wants to become richer.

    I don't hate Moore either. :p
     
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    I'm sure we'd all be a little happier with a little more money. :lol: I don't think he'd get much for airing it on tv though. As a catch he could even do it for free if the networks were hesitant.
     
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    I think Michael Moore exhibits more passion for unseating Bush than lining his pockets. Raking in some more cash sounds good, but I'm sure that's not his first priority. Showing it on primetime TV is the best way to sway voters' minds before the election, and I don't see anything wrong with that.
     
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    Obviously we're on opposite sides of the fence then. :p
     
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    Bah, I'm indifferent towards Moore. I most certainly don't think Bush should be our next president, but there's just something about Moore I don't really care for.
     
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    I like how Moore is so outspoken and uncensored.
     
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    If this is so, why is Bush at 55%?
     
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    If this is so, why is Bush at 55%? [/b][/quote]
    Are you talking about the polls?

    Last time I saw the polls, Bush was 59%, and Kerry was 58%, IIRC.
     
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    You guys shouldn't rely on those polls for info, they're innaccurate to as much as 11% in some cases.
     
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    What the hell should we rely on then?
     
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    Agreed. I hate sample polls. They only ask around 700 people most of the time and they're all "likely-voters". I can see the youth vote really getting out there to vote Kerry.
     

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