Colin Powell Is An Idiot

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    i saw it on tv :lol: trust me, he CANT sing.
     
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    haha. I bet not
     
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    LMAO!
     
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    I think he's an idiot, but not for the YMCA stunt
     
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    o_O

    What for, then?
     
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    everything else he's done *cough*lyingtotheunitednationsaboutweaponsofmassdestruction*cough*
     
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    :lol:
     
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    ^_^ *hands Todd some cough medicine*
     
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    and i thought the village people were bad.
     
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    Well, I certainly didn't see that coming...

    I would go on a tirade about that, but it's not worth it when no one will care what I have to say :lol:
     
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    Well, I certainly didn't see that coming...

    I would go on a tirade about that, but it's not worth it when no one will care what I have to say :lol: [/b][/quote]
    Just a small question, but are you a hardcore republican or Bush supporter? It's like nothing wrong can be said about the Bush administration without you not liking it. :lol: Just wanted to know. :p
     
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    Just a small question, but are you a hardcore republican or Bush supporter? It's like nothing wrong can be said about the Bush administration without you not liking it. :lol: Just wanted to know. :p [/b][/quote]
    Neither. I'm an independent and I don't want Bush as our President... thing is, I don't want Kerry even more than I don't want Bush, so I'm going to stick with Bush. I'd rather have John McCain as President, but that's not going to happen.

    And, people can say all they want about the Bush administration. Thing is, if I happen to know that they're wrong I'm going to state it. But to insult Colin Powell is completely asinine. Powell was following orders by presenting that display to the U.N. I challenge anyone here to tell me why Powell is a bad politician -- but give me something that doesn't relate to Iraq. He's following orders there.

    I'd even rather have Powell as President than Bush... that may not be saying much, but he's a damn good politician. I have yet to see anyone giving me reason otherwise. Heck, a ton of democrats and liberals even like him -- I see no reason for anyone here to dislike him. You can, but I'm just asking why. It seems stupid to dislike someone without reason.

    Also, to say that I seem to be a hardcore republican or Bush supporter would probably seem true... but that's only because of the posts I've seen here about how much people hate Bush without knowing the facts. I guess it's the popular thing to be a rebel and bash the current president :rolleyes: Are there good reasons to bash the current administration? Iraq is the only one that comes to mind, but even then Saddam is gone (heck, and you guys have a field day deciding what to do to him)... does that make the Iraq situation right? Nope. But if anyone even thinks about involving Afghanistan in this topic, then they obviously don't know what they're talking about. Thing is, I have yet to see a good reason why Kerry should be President. Any reason at all. Can you give me one? And please, don't say "anyone's better than Bush". That is the exact thing that I hate about Americans (well, you're not American, but I'm just generalizing) today -- they just assume things about politics and have no clue what they're talking about.

    So, for a quick recap: I don't like Bush. I want McCain as President. Colin Powell is a good politician, in my opinion. I see no reason why Kerry should be President next year.

    Am I saying Bush should be President? No. Am I saying Kerry should? Nope. Am I saying either is a bad guy? Nope. Am I saying you can't have your own opinions? Nope... but formulate them on facts, not claims you make up (again, not talking about you, but people in general).
     
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    Isn't Powell a Democrat?
     
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    No, Powell's Republican... he could run as a Democrat, though, if he wanted :)
     
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    Ah, okay. I wasn't sure.
     
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    Powell was an independent before the election, though... but right now I'm pretty sure he's said he's republican. The democrats wanted him to run as a democrat (for president) during the last election, though. Powell doesn't want to be president.

    EDIT: Link with information on him: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/.../Colin%20Powell
     
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    Neither. I'm an independent and I don't want Bush as our President... thing is, I don't want Kerry even more than I don't want Bush, so I'm going to stick with Bush. I'd rather have John McCain as President, but that's not going to happen.

    And, people can say all they want about the Bush administration. Thing is, if I happen to know that they're wrong I'm going to state it. But to insult Colin Powell is completely asinine. Powell was following orders by presenting that display to the U.N. I challenge anyone here to tell me why Powell is a bad politician -- but give me something that doesn't relate to Iraq. He's following orders there.

    I'd even rather have Powell as President than Bush... that may not be saying much, but he's a damn good politician. I have yet to see anyone giving me reason otherwise. Heck, a ton of democrats and liberals even like him -- I see no reason for anyone here to dislike him. You can, but I'm just asking why. It seems stupid to dislike someone without reason.

    Also, to say that I seem to be a hardcore republican or Bush supporter would probably seem true... but that's only because of the posts I've seen here about how much people hate Bush without knowing the facts. I guess it's the popular thing to be a rebel and bash the current president :rolleyes: Are there good reasons to bash the current administration? Iraq is the only one that comes to mind, but even then Saddam is gone (heck, and you guys have a field day deciding what to do to him)... does that make the Iraq situation right? Nope. But if anyone even thinks about involving Afghanistan in this topic, then they obviously don't know what they're talking about. Thing is, I have yet to see a good reason why Kerry should be President. Any reason at all. Can you give me one? And please, don't say "anyone's better than Bush". That is the exact thing that I hate about Americans (well, you're not American, but I'm just generalizing) today -- they just assume things about politics and have no clue what they're talking about.

    So, for a quick recap: I don't like Bush. I want McCain as President. Colin Powell is a good politician, in my opinion. I see no reason why Kerry should be President next year.

    Am I saying Bush should be President? No. Am I saying Kerry should? Nope. Am I saying either is a bad guy? Nope. Am I saying you can't have your own opinions? Nope... but formulate them on facts, not claims you make up (again, not talking about you, but people in general). [/b][/quote]
    I think Colin Powell is a great guy too, and he was probably just handed a report on what to say to the UN by the Bush administration. Nothing against him, because he's a very good politician, but I was just laughing at the fact that Powell, being a serious guy, even had the guts to go up and sing the YMCA in front of others. :lol:

    I've been reading alot of stuff and I'm pretty sure in my mind (and I'm sure others, such as Casey/Todd agree) that Bush/Cheney wanted to go into Iraq, no matter what the reason. There were no weapons of mass destruction, because they never found any. They had satellite photos of places that they were "100% sure" were locations of WMDs, but they were wrong. They were either fabricated lies or really terrible miscalculations which led to the destroying of thousands of Iraqi families, and the deaths of their family members. Then there's the theory that Bush Jr was trying to get revenge for Saddams attempt on Bush Sr's live, but I don't stock any value in that. And last but not least, oil. I'm much too tired and really uninterested in writing a 5 page essay on why they went in there for oil. You've probably heard it all already. Maybe I'll get around to it. There's the stuff about Halliburton, some of Bushs top contributors were oil moguls. The Saudis invest trillions of dollars in the American economy and if Bush did anything to anger them, it'd be a huge blow to the economy. Blah, blah, blah. (And that's not an excuse to get out of the debate, I'm just terribly tired. :lol:)

    The world hates Bush. Terrorists hate Bush. The Muslim-population of the world hates Bush. I don't think Kerry would be a great politician either, but for the sake of your country's safety, Bush should go. I also don't think Kerry would ignore terrorist-activity reports and spend an absurd amount of time on vacation in the midst of a potential terrorist attack either. You may correct me and say that Terrorists hate America (and they do), but I think that if you got rid of Bush, the threat would decline a small amount.
     
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    I'd want him to run in 2008 instead of Ricard Cheney (if bush wins *shrug*). If not, go John McCain!
     
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    Mark, you're exactly right. From what I've read Powell didn't want to give that speech/information to the U.N., but he pretty much had no choice. He had to rely upon what the administration gave him. Lots of people were mad at Powell after that because he spoke out against a war in Iraq before the U.N. presentation (I think... don't quote me on that, but I'm 95% sure). Powell didn't want war, being a military man -- he only wants to do it when we absolutely have to (like Afghanistan).

    I'm with you somewhat on the Bush/Cheney wanting to go to war with Iraq thing. I think they did, but the terrorist activity (9/11) at the time made them want to go even more. I highly, highly doubt that it was for oil or the assasination attempt (if you can call it that) on G. H. Bush's life, too. I think Bush just doesn't like Saddam, to be quite frank... not sure I can disagree with him. I think the Gulf War played a large part in it -- he was probably mad that Saddam wasn't taken out of power, like he should have been.

    But yes, a lot of the world hates Bush. Thing is, they do have a certain right to be mad (well, they have the right, but I think they're "correct" on it, in some ways) because of the foreign policy of the United States in the Bush administration and the invasion of Iraq without much warning.

    But, I just flat-out don't like Kerry. I don't deem him trustworthy at all. I believe he'd be a enormous flop of a president. Have you ever noticed that when questions of Vietnam are brought up that he always dodges them? You know why? Because fair word from Vietnam veterans is that most of the stuff he claimed Americans did they didn't do... he just didn't want to go back to Vietnam. There has yet to be many reports to verify his claims, too. The press just took with it and ran. Not to mention people in Vietnam were given hell when Kerry brought all of these statements -- they were hated. They were absolutely hated -- no one liked them because they believed that all Americans were killing civilians. Thing is, most of them weren't. Kerry also has yet to take a firm stance on pretty much any issue at all. He states that foreign leaders have told him that they like him, but he has yet to name one. Only Kim Joung Ill (I know I spelled his middle name wrong) of North Korea is actively endorsing him, as of yet. Kerry just seems like a worm, if you ask me. While I may not agree with everything Bush does, I think that it's better to have a stance than to not have one.

    superxero88: Unfortunately for us, John McCain doesn't want to run for president anymore, either :( Shame... he had an amazing tax plan.
     
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    I'd want him to run in 2008 instead of Ricard Cheney (if bush wins *shrug*). If not, go John McCain! [/b][/quote]
    Jesse Ventura will get my vote in 2008.
     

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