Yep. I'm surprised the media hasn't played the role you mentioned, actually -- blaming the Iraqis for attacking people trying to help. Very few have done so yet. [/b][/quote] And I doubt any media outlet will ever play up the story that maybe Iraqis didn't do it.
And I doubt any media outlet will ever play up the story that maybe Iraqis didn't do it. [/b][/quote] That day will come when I can hear normally (I have a hearing problem and won't be able to hear regularly for the rest of my life)
(I have a hearing problem and won't be able to hear regularly for the rest of my life) [/b][/quote] It's a good thing you added that part, I was lost.
And I doubt any media outlet will ever play up the story that maybe Iraqis didn't do it. [/b][/quote] Of course not, considering there is no proof otherwise. There is evidence that Iraqis killed him. What more do you want? Post all the conspiracy theories you like...
Of course not, considering there is no proof otherwise. There is evidence that Iraqis killed him. What more do you want? Post all the conspiracy theories you like... [/b][/quote] Have you seen the video? And the terrorists with gold rings and air jordan sneakers? And the fact that no blood comes gushing out of his neck when the knife goes through it?
He was an independent contractor. [/b][/quote] He was a spy... I'll find the link to where it said that EDIT: The Link
Have you seen the video? And the terrorists with gold rings and air jordan sneakers? And the fact that no blood comes gushing out of his neck when the knife goes through it? [/b][/quote] but he's dead, aint he? then the video must be real. maybe he had some neck problems... ok i dont really believe in that, but hey, we never know.
but he's dead, aint he? then the video must be real. maybe he had some neck problems... ok i dont really believe in that, but hey, we never know. [/b][/quote] Oh, yeah. Because we all know that everyone with neck problems don't bleed when their heads are cut off.
Terrorists aren't allowed to have gold rings? Hate to dissapoint you, but Osama Bin Laden is one rich S.O.B. and I think he has his fair share of gold rings. So what if they had Air Jordans? Are you trying to imply that it was American Secret Service or soldiers? Well, for one, no soldiers would be allowed to have Air Jordans, let alone the Secret Service. Two, American merchandise is huge in foreign nations (yes, even in the Middle East area), even if they don't like our foreign policy or government. The fact that no blood comes gushing through his neck is because the vein endings were clamped off. I had a friend just last year who cut two or three of his toes off (honestly... they were sewn back on, though) with a box mower (not the exact name, but the name elludes me now... it's this thing that you attach to a tractor and is extremely heavy... used to flatten grass and wheat) and they never bled because it clamped the blood vessel endings off. No offense, but if blood started gushing everywhere then I think people would be more curious as to why the blood was gushing instead of no blood at all.
Terrorists aren't allowed to have gold rings? Hate to dissapoint you, but Osama Bin Laden is one rich S.O.B. and I think he has his fair share of gold rings. So what if they had Air Jordans? Are you trying to imply that it was American Secret Service or soldiers? Well, for one, no soldiers would be allowed to have Air Jordans, let alone the Secret Service. Two, American merchandise is huge in foreign nations (yes, even in the Middle East area), even if they don't like our foreign policy or government. [/b][/quote] Muslim men aren't allowed to wear gold on them . And I don't think the Jihad groups who hate the American Government so much will wear things that comes from them.
They are against Western Culture, though. Why would an extremist terrorist group be wearing things that show off Western Culture? I really doubt they're hypocrits.
This isn't the same terrorist group as Al Queda or anything of that ilk, though. This really is only a terrorist in the definition of the world because of this beheading, they're more of insurgents since they just want America out of Iraq. Muslim men aren't allowed to wear gold on them . And I don't think the Jihad groups who hate the American Government so much will wear things that comes from them. [/b][/quote] Since when was everyone in Iraq muslim? Majority, yes, but the whole reason everyone in the Middle East is fighting is because not everyone is from the same religious group. (If you're referring to Osama Bin Laden I was being sarcastic about how he could easily afford it.)
The Christians in Iraq support the Americans so I don't know why they would be beheading Americans. And don't double post
How's about we leave the moderating to the mods, mmm-kay? They can delete my posts if they so choose, it's their job. If they choose to warn me, so be it. But it's not your job. Who said they were Christians or Muslims? You do realize that there is more than two religions in Iraq, correct? Also, not all the Christians in Iraq support the Americans. I would absolutely love to know where you're getting your information from, because when it comes to the occupation of Iraq there is no barrier line. I, for one, am wondering how you guys were able to tell that the shoes in the video were Air Jordans or any commercial shoe from the Western Hemisphere (saying they were sneakers I can understand) and how the ring on his finger was of real gold when the video was freaking fuzzy at best. You guys have seen the video, correct? Not to mention that the people on the video weren't clearly from any religious group.
I don't have to be a mod to remind you of something that you did wrong. I know they're muslims because they did a speech before they cut off his head and they were reading things from the Quran (Holy Book for Muslims), and also when they cut off his head, they were calling out Allahu Akbar (Allah is great). How about you go see the video again and than come back and tell us that the shoes aren't jordans and that he's not wearing a gold ring.
sorry to say, enfestid, but omar is right. and dont get pissed, he didnt do it to be mean or whatever, he wanted to help you out. if people say this stuff, theyre probably right and theyre being nice to you. well, they will stop being nice if you dont follow it, obviously.
Nice way of just ignoring everything I said by claiming I haven't even seen it. Good job at proving that he wasn't wearing different shoes and not wearing a gold ring -- I applaud you. I mean, we all know the best way to prove someone wrong is to just say "No, YOU prove it". So you're telling me that they are Muslims? Why is it that you didn't just state that from the beginning instead of trying to defend the assumption that it may be the CIA, FBI, etc? Fact is, we know crap about these people. We don't know who they are, despite one of them saying his name (because the name he said is assumed to be the name of a dead terrorist). Any of these things could have been to put the blame on a specific group or person(s). Does that mean it's a conspiracy, though? Nope. It is just a clowdy situation, as is.
Agreed. No one knows anything about those terrorists or who they really are, but there are a lot of conspiracy theories and speculations and things like that. I've read them all and a lot of them are outlandish. I believed a couple of them at first, but now I couldn't care less. What's done is done, whether it was a conspiracy or not. [edit] Basically, what I'm saying is that I don't know what to think of these guys anymore. For all I care, they could be natives of Antarctica.
Pretty much, yeah... there's no telling what to think of them. The only plausible answer I can think of (that involves the murderers being American, I mean, to support the conspiracy theories) is the murderers being some of the soldiers who abused Iraqis. There have been allegations that Berg was in one of the prisons, but I doubt that. For one, I have no clue what kind of soldier would bring an American soldier in and kill him. It's obvious that the soldiers who abused Iraqis were going "battlefield crazy" (I can't remember the correct term), but I don't think they'd to that to an American man for no reason. Two, if the killers were CIA or FBI that means that America knew about the situation in the prisons. I extremely doubt that, given the amount of people that that kind of information would pass through before it finally leaks -- it would have happened much sooner, if that were the case. And, lastly, the video doesn't look like the prisons at all. The only reason people think that is because of a white plastic chair that was in pictures of the prisoner abuse, and that Berg was in a similar white plastic chair. This is a normal lawnchair you could find anywhere (yes, even in Iraq), so I don't think there's definite link there. So, pretty much the only plausible answer I've come up with is that it had to be some sort of insurgent group. I have no clue what religion, but I think they were trying to throw the Americans off with different things (claiming to be a terrorist that was already deceased, which was unknown to Iraqis and pretty much everyone else at the time). So yeah, I just wanted to say who I thought it was since we've gone this far and I haven't said who I actually believe it is.