I think I saw that too, but that show gets a lot of it wrong anyway. MuchMusic needs to go back to just playing music videos regularly.
Thanks a lot Mark. Maybe you should ask me firstly just to tell you all of Evanescence's European tour (especially in UK) was supported by Seether, hich means thousands of people who went to see Eva also checked out Seether= a giant extra fan base. And it all ended up in that collaboration, which of course will bring even more fans to Seether, assuming they will check out that song just because Amy Lee's in it. And don't tell me Seether had most fans before their connection with Amy Lee. It's like saying Eminem was more popular with his first CD than after he was supported byDr. Dre.
You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, Phantom. I mean, really. You’re just trying to be funny now, I think. You have the definition of “protégé” mixed up with something else. A protégé is someone who is “in the care and protection of another person” and would be, in this case, a band taken under the wing of another band. For example, Simplistic. would be considered a protégé of Linkin Park. Die Trying would be considered a protégé of Papa Roach. Blindside would be considered a protégé of P.O.D. Lo-Pro is a protégé of Staind. Seether is not a protégé of Evanescence. Just because they toured with each other and Seether got more popular because of it doesn’t make Seether a protégé of Evanescence. Oh, by the way... I spelled “protégé” the right way for all of you who can’t spell it, even after looking the word up in a dictionary.
Well, first of , sorry for forgetting the first é in protégé Will, i know what protégé means, it's a Frenhc word and i have a teaching degree in French. In the music industry, however, it's no actually the "protetced" person, but mostly someone who's supported by someone else. Unless Kerrag! is wrong, since that's where i've seen the meaning of "protégé". And don't tell me Seether are not supported by Amy Lee.
I can kinda see what Phantom's talking about. I suppose he's saying that Amy Lee kinda (more than likely not purposefully) got Seether some extra publicity when she did "Broken". I mean, that was not her goal, she was just doing the song with her boyfriend, but indirectly she brought Seether some publicity. Some people probably don't know that Seether has released three previous videos; they didn't get much attention, but "Broken" is a hit. So I can kinda see how Phantom would think that Amy Lee was supporting Seether. But I don't really see it that way.
Seether were supporting Evanescence. But no offense, how on Earth does that make them Evanescence's protégés? Protégé is like the Plato-Aristotle-Syracuse thing (although I know that order is wrong, I'm just too lazy to look it up ). Seether is in no way the protégés of Evanescence. Yes, they supported them. That doesn't make them protégés. Going by that, you could say Linkin Park are the protégés of Kottonmouth Kings
Too bad Seether was out before Evanescence became huge. Amy Lee just made them famous by doing the "Broken" remix. A protégé would be something like 50 Cent and Eminem. Eminem discovered 50 Cent and made him huge. Amy Lee just did a collaboration with her boyfriend that was made into a single by Wind-Up, then it became big. No doubt, she helped Seether, but being someone's protégé would be completely owing all your success to the person who discovered you, not someone who attached her famous name and voice to a song.
I could so get technical about that. 50 Cent had put out a critically acclaimed CD before Get Rich Or Die Tryin' came out.
I could so get technical about that. 50 Cent had put out a critically acclaimed CD before Get Rich Or Die Tryin' came out. [/b][/quote] Yeah, but Eminem is the one who signed him and made him huge.
A-HA! Add the Eva- Seether tours all across Europe and you'll see being a protégé is not discovering and supporting someone, but only supporting him as well. The same way that Dr. Dre supported Eminem and helped him make The Slim Shady album, even though his first CD was terrible. I don't mean that Seether sucked before Amy's support, mind you, i've never heard them anyway.
A-HA! Add the Eva- Seether tours all across Europe and you'll see being a protégé is not discovering and supporting someone, but only supporting him as well. The same way that Dr. Dre supported Eminem and helped him make The Slim Shady album, even though his first CD was terrible. I don't mean that Seether sucked before Amy's support, mind you, i've never heard them anyway. [/b][/quote] You're talking in circles.
A-HA! Add the Eva- Seether tours all across Europe and you'll see being a protégé is not discovering and supporting someone, but only supporting him as well. The same way that Dr. Dre supported Eminem and helped him make The Slim Shady album, even though his first CD was terrible. I don't mean that Seether sucked before Amy's support, mind you, i've never heard them anyway. [/b][/quote] The difference is Eminem really was Dr. Dre's protege. He taught him numerous things, got him signed, produced him, etc.
Can we get back to the music, please? SEETHER WAS NOT DISCOVERED BY AMY LEE. SEETHER RELEASED THEIR ALBUM IN 2002. EVANESENCE RELEASED THEIR ALBUM 2003. AMY LEE DID A SONG WITH HER BOYFRIEND, LEAD SINGER OF SEETHER. YES, THIS GOT THEM SOME ATTENTION. SEETHER IS NOT PROTEGES OF EVANESENCE. STORY OF THE YEAR WENT ON TOUR WITH LINKIN PARK, BUT THEY ARE NOT PROTEGES OF THEM. SO WHY SHOULD SEETHER BE? I sure hope this clears everything up.
Seether's a cool band. I like the song Fine Again. The song with Amy Lee is pretty cool too, I guess.
I heard Fine Again long before I even knew who Evanesence was. Back when Disclaimer was released, Evanesence was still unheard of. Bring Me to Life was made famous by the movie DareDevil. Look at the back of the Daredevil soundtrack, it says ©2003, meaning it was released in 2003, February I think. Eva's CD was released shortly after. Look at the back of Disclaimer, its ©2002. 2002 comes before 2003, and 2003 was when Eva was just starting to get popular. So Phantom, stop saying that Amy Lee got Seether famous, it's a load of bullcrap and at the time of Disclaimer's release, I dont even think Shaun and Amy even knew each other. And Casey, yes Orgin was out before Disclaimer, but Orgin was like Hybrid Theory EP was to Linkin Park. Very few knew about it and nothing from it was played on the radio. A band who isn't famous can't get another band famous Now back on topic, the re-released Disclaimer looks nice. I already have it so I dont know if I'll buy it (i think I will, I want to hear the new stuff). I did see it at work yesterday and looked at the track list, but I would lose my job for buying it or selling it to a customer I also saw Seether live a year ago and they put on an awesome performance, especially during the song "Fuck It" Everyone was going wild during it, its an excellent song for the crowd to have a part to mosh and scream with :rawk:
I could so take a pot-shot at Limpbizkit there. but yeah, I wasn't being serious, I was trying to get LJ to respond to it.
I'm gonna bump this up (I got permission, so don't kill me), now that Disclaimer 2 is out. Post your comments on it, please. Casey: I'm not Linkin Junior, so it'd be LT. And I knew about the "Origin" album, but as it was not a major-label release, I didn't figure it really counted, they built their major fanbase on "Fallen".