Gay Marriage Ban Passes 1st Step in Mass.

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    Rachel

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    First of all... MCAS can go to hell. It's stupid us Massachusettians have to pass it to graduate.

    And Mitt Romney is a moron. I don't like him. And it's stupid that we won't be able to get married if we want. I'm bisexual, and this is absurd! American is the UNITED states of america... home of the FREE. And aren't we NOT supposed to mix church with state? So, therefore, personal beliefs shouldn't play a role in this. It should be about what is the best for the community. It's like that gay-only high school. *shudder*
     
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    Hell yeah! Then America would immediately make it legal but people would just say I don't care and stay in Canada! HAHA to the gov!

    That would be cool. But then there wouldn't be many gay people in America. Gay people are cool...[/b][/quote]
    Can only agree with it! One of my bestest friend ever is gay and he's the best person to hang with! :D



    I know, bestest is not a word, I just felt like writting it.
     
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    Once and for all, 5 reasons why gay marriages should not be banned:

    1. Our society should be encouraged that two people, regardless of race or gender, are so in love that they're ready to commit themselves to each other for life.

    2. The whole "gays are not natural" argument is stupid and should be shot to pieces. Nature allows males and females to have intercourse and reproduce. Nature does not dictate love and emotions. Gays marry because they love each other. So screw this argument. It's irrelevant anyhow. On a side note, certain species of animals in nature engage in homosexual activities so that shoots another hole in the argument.

    3. Theoretically, America is the land of freedom. Marriage is a civil right, and everybody should be entitled to that right, whether they're black or white, male or female, gay or straight.

    4. There is separation of church and state in America. Since we are dealing with the legality of gay marriages, the words "God", "church" or "Bible" should not be used to back up people's argument no matter how religious they are. If all politicians were allowed to make decisions based on their prejudices and religious biases, they would be alienating all those who don't share their beliefs. Bush's Bible-backed stance on gay marriages means nothing to an atheist.

    5. Legalizing gay marriage could lead to even more openness, tolerance and understanding. It gives couples a sense of stability, commitment, and all that jazz that straight married couples are already familiar with.
     
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    I was at another message board, and they were discussing (read: arguing) homosexual marriages (I refuse to use the word ’’gay’’ to describe homosexuals anymore) and someone had the best reason as to why homosexual marriages should not be banned:

    Just because these people have different sexual preferences does not mean that we should take away their basic rights of freedom.

    Thank you, good night.
     
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    The problem in the actual american society is that she's based on opposite thoughts. If you want the people to like you, you have to be white, heterosexual, open minded and catholic. Now the problem is that if you're open minded about homosexual weddings, people will tell you that you're not a real catholic. But if you're against homosexual weddings, people will tell you don't respect the human chart of right and liberties or simply their freedom. So no matter what will the final decision of this debate be, the one person who'll take it will not be able to please a big amount of people.

    In fact, I think America is at the point where she must choose which is most important: religion, or reason?

    By the way, the argument the person gave on that other board is reallllllly intelligent, Will!
     
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    What does respecting people's basic rights have to do with being a "real Catholic"? A real Catholic doesn't have to agree with homosexuality. Neither is he or she forced to take part in a gay marriage. All they have to do is acknowledge the fact that all human beings are entitled to the same rights, regardless of race, gender or sexual orientation.
     
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    Being hetero or homo sexual has nothing to do with religion.
     
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    Actually, according to the Bible (I think, I don't know, I refuse to even look at one), it says that homosexuals are evil or something. All I know is that I think the Bible claims being a homosexual is wrong.
     
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    Oh. I don't know if the Torah has anything bad about homosexuals but if it does, then it doesn't matter to me. I don't follow much of it anyway.
     
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    Actually, according to the Bible (I think, I don't know, I refuse to even look at one), it says that homosexuals are evil or something. All I know is that I think the Bible claims being a homosexual is wrong. [/b][/quote]
    Exactly.
    And isn't Bush Catholic? :lol:

    I hate Catholic's, they're the most arrogant race of Christianity out there.
     
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    Exactly.
    And isn't Bush Catholic? :lol:

    I hate Catholic's, they're the most arrogant race of Christianity out there. [/b][/quote]
    You hate all catholics???

    You should say that u hate the arrogant catholics. There are arrogant people in every religion.

    My beliefs of homosexuals being able to marry is my own personal belief, not religion.
     
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    You hate all catholics???

    You should say that u hate the arrogant catholics. There are arrogant people in every religion.

    My beliefs of homosexuals being able to marry is my own personal belief, not religion. [/b][/quote]
    Well, I'm sorry, but every Catholic I've ever met has been that way right off the bat. I've had friends since grade school that were Catholic, and they're either on drugs now or highly sexually active.
     
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    nit pick about the words, but as far as civil rights.... there ought to be a middle ground that can allow homosexuals to have benificiaries (sp?) and get loans etc.
     
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    i cant see the picture... :mellow:
     
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    What does respecting people's basic rights have to do with being a "real Catholic"? A real Catholic doesn't have to agree with homosexuality. Neither is he or she forced to take part in a gay marriage. All they have to do is acknowledge the fact that all human beings are entitled to the same rights, regardless of race, gender or sexual orientation.[/b][/quote]
    I know! But that's the image Americans send us when we hear about Gay wedding! It's always the logic of respecting everyones rights and freedom against the 'holy' (notice the sarcasm here) Bible!
     
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    I'm a studying Jew, but I don't think they mention the homosexuality debate in the Torah. I know its in the Old Testament, but the Torah is only the first 5 books so... who knows...
     
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    IT should be more like "All Humans created equal" CAuse some people take in as "ONly men and not women created equal" and the definition of marriage should be changed too!!

    Thats.. not cool...
     
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    Face it people, there's nothing that we can do about it and these bans are only going to continue before its completely illegal, even in states that were saying a big F-You to the US government.

    As long as we have ignorant politicians in our country, our laws will never change.
     
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    yAAAAAAy (w00t) i can see the picture now. but i dont get it. whats homophobia?
     

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