Hmm, "holding LP back" in this case is a phrase that depends on the person. If you like the electronic side of LP like ATS and LT, then you'll love modern day Brad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPTdlrN4AFI In this clip (shot before the Berlin 2012 show), it's funny they deliberately only showed like 0.1 second clips of Brad, because he literally didn't know how to play the song. I'm not going to blame the entire band's setlist decisions on Brad. An example would be By Myself, Forgotten, Pushing, APFMH not making it to the Carnivores setlists. That solely can't be Brad's fault, even though we know Brad doesn't particularly like playing APFMH anymore. They all play songs they don't WANT to play every night, Mike even said last year they feel obligated to play Burn It Down every single show even though they collectively don't want to. I won't say it's completely Brad's fault on Powerless. If 5/6 of LP wants to add I'll Be Gone and Powerless, then he'll learn the guitar parts and they'll play it. I believe it was a band decision to not play more songs from LT and THP live. The WHOLE band seems uninterested in kicking singles to the curb (they now have more than ever) to play more deep-album cuts like Powerless, and even the rehearsed I'll Be Gone. This used to not be a problem for HT/Meteora/MTM because they didn't have so many songs. At the end of the MTM cycle and into the ATS cycle they started moving different singles to different setlists (LOATR, SOTD, etc). Now they don't play many different sets and want as many singles as possible, which is why they started shortening songs. Honda Civic Tour was great because they play some deep-album cuts instead of overloading it with Living Things. And sadly the world tour was cut short ("canceled" Euro fall 2012 tour) so we never got to see more of LT played live.
Where did people get this info on Brad not wanting to learn Powerless? It's not exactly difficult, it'd take him ten minutes or so to actually learn. I'm just kinda finding it hard to believe. I also find the thing about New Divide hard to believe. I'm not saying it's not true... But yeah.
I believe in like, what, 2009 (don't quote me on that), Mike said at a M&G that they would play APFMH, only that Brad doesn't like the song, him literally being the only one. It's also pretty evident onstage that he hates a lot of the older songs - he barely moves around onstage during OSC, Papercut, and POA (he's even been using a splicer effect on it since 2012, because he doesn't want to relearn the palm-muting pattern). But he's JAMMING on songs he barely plays on. Look at him playing the single piano note on WFTE, or during COG Experience. He's dancing around. Astat has said in the past about the chords for New Divide being somewhere onstage, as per one of Linkin Park's guitar techs (I believe Sean Paden told him). It's true that it's probably not SOLELY Brad contributing to the lack of new songs being played, but he certainly doesn't put the effort forward.
Fuck this thread, I thought something had come up suggesting Powerless would be played. FTFY ROCKER94 (Just kidding, but you did get my hopes up...)
I don't know who started with that silly rumor, but the band never performed the song in Berlin or anywhere else. If you are referring to the music video, it consists of the footage they shot for the song and bits from that actual 2012 Berlin show filmed for theaters. Mike did mention his interest in playing the song, but other than that. it was never mentioned that the band performed or rehearsed the song.
Dude, there was literally an LPTV about this. The band performed Powerless before the Berlin show, but it was that day, for the music video. We don't know how much was backing track, but it was shot in Berlin.
Dude... [video=youtube;EWh-uw1fx90]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWh-uw1fx90[/video] http://lplive.net/shows/db/2012/20120605
Seriously? I know this exists, I just said that the music video consisted of footage that was filmed for this song. As far as we all know, its just a back track being used. This isn't a "real performance", so to speak and merely used for the video's specific purpose. So no, the band technically hasn't performed this song. If this is a performance to you, then I guess the music videos for OSC, BID, BIO, etc are "performances" too.
It doesn't change the fact that Brad never bothered to learn the song, which was his point. Whether or not it was a real performance was irrelevant to the point. The band also did, technically perform it. It wasn't a standard live performance, but it was a performance. Rehearsals, video shoots etc., are technically performances.
I mean, are they not? It's over playback sure, but the band still as to perform their instruments. Like Mr. Rocco above me said, it's still playing to my point that Brad never took the liberty to learn his part.
Guys guise, i don't care if Brad learned the song or not, I'm just saying they never really performed it. Brad is a completely other case.
They actually don't have to perform their parts... They just have to look like they are. And they don't have to worry about how they sound- something key to a good performance
I definitely don't count the video shoot as a debut live performance. You may as well count a rehearsal of "Keys" as a debut live performance if you wanna go that way
We're not saying it was performed live. We get they had to mimic it. I'm not calling it a true performance of it, it's about as much a performance as the video below. The point is Brad, knowing that they would have to perform their parts for it, didn't bother, and carried on that mentality throughout the entire cycle, which eventually played a roll in the lack of new songs being performed live and why specifically POWERLESS was not performed. http://fragg.me/video/muse-uprising-lip-sync-italian-tv
We never said it was a "debut live performance" lol. They performed it for the music video shoot, though. The entire point of the conversation is that at this particular video shoot, Brad didn't feel like even learning his part for the video, which is additional info to add why they didn't perform it live. I mean I guess Brad doesn't technically HAVE a part since Mike recorded all the guitars on the song, and most all of them on Living Things anyway, but you get my drift.