Sophomore Jinx?

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    acetaminophen

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    Hybrid Theoy is selling over ten million copies.
    Meteora is three million.

    Why so many people who bought LP's first album didn't buy their second?

    Do you think it is a kind of sophomore jinx or people are simply disappointed at Meteora?

    Personally, I really like both albums equally.
    Each one has its own feature.

    :joe: :joe: :joe:
     
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    Hybrid Theory is a one-of-a-kind. Great bands only have one such album. 10 millions is amazing, doing this twice happens really rarely.
     
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    Hybrid Theory has been out for over 3 years now. Of course it's going to have sold a lot more than an album that hasn't even been out for a year yet.
     
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    Nope. Meteora has sold over 6.5 million copies worldwide (3.5 million in the US) in 11 months vs Hybrid Theory selling 14 million worldwide (8 million in the US) over 3 years and 4 months.

    And Hybrid Theory is superior to Meteora, in my opinion. The fans will buy it because the singles are catchy, but the hardcore fans were somewhat disappointed.
     
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    meteora isnt BAD its not as good as HT though

    the sophomore jinx
    = the gilmore jinx

    lol
     
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    People need to understand that HT sold that many records over the LONG RUN. Sales didn't really start until In The End popped out. But I think in out of the gate sales Meteora beat HT. 2 years from now who knows how many copies of Meteora will be sold.
     
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    Exactly. Although it pains me to admit it, CD sales are greatly boosted when a song is popular by "teenie" standards. As was the case with In The End, which was a chart topper across genres like Pop, and was frequently #1 at Radio stations which wouldn't normally play Rock songs.

    Expect sales for Meteora to SHARPLY increase after Breaking the Habit is released as a single. BTH has the potential to be another song to bring in a fresh batch of fans, which should lead to improved sales.

    If I'm not mistaken, Hybrid Theory, which was released in November of 2000, reached its critical success through Mid-2001 and 2002, as a majority of the copies sold were during that time period.
     
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    It was different for HT. Not many people knew about LP before Hybrid Theory was released and In The End got many people and teenies hooked. With In The End, the other singles, a great rest of the CD, and accumulated time over a couple years, you're going to get a multi-platinum CD.

    I think a little mix of the jinx and but mostly much less time has gotten Meteora not nearly as many sales.
     
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    HT is rather "cathcy" in tunes whereas Meteora is more "matured" if u wanna compared it in "sounds"... HT has a more "guitar n bass" sounds in it while in Meteora (personally, i think...) u'll basically hear the sounds of all the instruments played, worked at once... (so i think...)

    i'd hear HT when i'm in no mood or trying to figure my heart out... (the songs in it will just hit the absurdness i feel), but i'll tune to Meteora if i feel great 'bout myself... B)
     
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    what is the deal with everyone hating on gilmore? i havent heard one actual fact about what gilmore did wrong with this album.


    as for ht vs met, number one its been out longer, and number two it was a debut
     
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    Nope. Meteora has sold over 6.5 million copies worldwide (3.5 million in the US) in 11 months vs Hybrid Theory selling 14 million worldwide (8 million in the US) over 3 years and 4 months.

    And Hybrid Theory is superior to Meteora, in my opinion. The fans will buy it because the singles are catchy, but the hardcore fans were somewhat disappointed. [/b][/quote]
    :angry: You calling people that liked Meteora and who are hard core fans like me not hard core fans ?
     
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    :angry: You calling people that liked Meteora and who are hard core fans like me not hard core fans ? [/b][/quote]
    Calm down. He's talking at the majority of LP hardcore fans. I'm one too, but i loved Meteora.
     
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    Nope. Meteora has sold over 6.5 million copies worldwide (3.5 million in the US) in 11 months vs Hybrid Theory selling 14 million worldwide (8 million in the US) over 3 years and 4 months.

    And Hybrid Theory is superior to Meteora, in my opinion. The fans will buy it because the singles are catchy, but the hardcore fans were somewhat disappointed. [/b][/quote]
    Well said Mark. At first i really liked Meteora even better than HT then i realized that whatr everybody was saying about it is true. I mean LP kept way too many things the same for their last album. For example, Don Gilmour as producer, Andy Wallace mixed it, second last song is an audio track, there is a damn song longer than 3 and a half minutes. I mean come on now. So anyway though i mean i don't think it is anykind of sophomore jinx, they just kinda did too many things the same and with that ended up coming out with pretty much the same result that really attracted alot more teenies.
     
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    i'm getting sick of all these people dissing Meteora... so what if it isn't as good as Hybrid Theory. I think it is awesome. And to all of those people who think LP won't make an album better than Hybrid Theory, what if they do?
    PS: stop dissing gilmore, he produced Hybrid Theory
     
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    PS Have you heard the HT demos? 100x better than the end results
     
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    Get used to it kid, because it isn't going to stop.
     
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    what is the deal with everyone hating on gilmore? i havent heard one actual fact about what gilmore did wrong with this album.


    as for ht vs met, number one its been out longer, and number two it was a debut [/b][/quote]
    Producers have say on what the bands sound like on the CD.

    Gilmore didn't want Linkin Park to change, I guess because of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" theory. Alas, Meteora produces some good songs, but it was just Hybrid Theory Jr., IMO.

    Same formula on their second CD? If they don't change on the next CD, they'll start loosing fans...fast.
     
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    I totally agree that Gilmour did do a awesome job on Hybrid Theory. But I mean when a band is going from album to album they should make a bit of a change. But i would have to put some of the blame on LP themselves for wanting to go with Gilmour again, but at the same time i would put alot more blame on Gilmour for not really wanting to make any change at all. I am sure LP will come out with another wicked album probably even better than HT, but the main thing is they need to get someone else other than Gilmour as a producer. I mean i am sure that Mike could probably take over and do some producing.
     
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    I look at it like this:

    If Meteora was a truly great album, I would listen to it a lot more than I do.

    I haven't listened to Meteora once since January 1st. In fact, I think the last time I listened to it was in the middle of November. I have listened to some songs off of it, but I haven't listened to it as a whole for the longest time.
     
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    Warner Brothers have their say on who produces the album.

    It's not really up to the band, it's up to the record label. Given the band has a say in it, but it's really only the record company that calls the shots on everything.

    LP did change some of Meteora. Listen to Nobody's Listening.
     

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