O.K. I'm not an American citizen. (Though I'm threatened by my boss, my wife and my daughter everyday.) I'm reading Michael Moore's 'Dude, Where's my country?' now. (I mean YOUR country of course.) What do you think of his opinions? Is Bush really that kind of 'Sun of Beach'? The Bush administration sent your sons and daughters off to fight a war that did not need to be fought BECAUSE THERE NEVER WAS ANY REAL THREAT AT ALL? I want to know your (real US citizens') candid thinking about Bush and War in Iraq. :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
I don't have children and I'm not a US citizen, but I don't think Bush is a very good leader. Michael Moore intrigues me, I should check out one of his books.
I don't support Bush in any way, shape or form, but there was a reason to go to Iraq, and that was to capture Saddam, which needed to be done, regardless of what 'side' you're on. And not to mention the Iraqi people needed to be 'liberated'. But I hope nothing happens over there democracy wise, because our democracy is ####ed up as it is, we don't need a USA Jr. We need to find Osama, though. That should have been done WAY before 2001. ####, they even know of Osama before September 11th.
I don't support Bush in any way, shape or form, but there was a reason to go to Iraq, and that was to capture Saddam, which needed to be done, regardless of what 'side' you're on. And not to mention the Iraqi people needed to be 'liberated'. But I hope nothing happens over there democracy wise, because our democracy is ####ed up as it is, we don't need a USA Jr. We need to find Osama, though. That should have been done WAY before 2001. ####, they even know of Osama before September 11th. [/b][/quote] The Iraqi war was not needed. It's not our job to babysit the world, we're not the rest of the world's mommy and daddy. If the Iraqi people want Saddam out, then they can fight their own war. If they can't for whatever reason, too bad, but it's not worth the lives of our men and women and the costs to us. 87 billion dollars is being spent in Iraq, plus more to come I'm sure, yet in the meantime, the unemployment rate over here is the highest it's ever been and too many people are homeless or living in shelters. Anyways, I haven't read that book. But in school today we watched Bowling for Columbine (we're finishing it up Wednesday) and it's a very interesting movie. It's very shocking to see morons saying it's the American duty to own stockpiles of guns. The fact that you can get a free gun for opening a bank account is insane, and the footage from the Columbine security cameras is just devistating to watch. Dude, Where's my Country sounds like a good book, I might have to read it (yes, I will actually read something on my own!....maybe)
The Iraqi war was not needed. It's not our job to babysit the world, we're not the rest of the world's mommy and daddy. If the Iraqi people want Saddam out, then they can fight their own war. If they can't for whatever reason, too bad, but it's not worth the lives of our men and women and the costs to us. 87 billion dollars is being spent in Iraq, plus more to come I'm sure, yet in the meantime, the unemployment rate over here is the highest it's ever been and too many people are homeless or living in shelters. Anyways, I haven't read that book. But in school today we watched Bowling for Columbine (we're finishing it up Wednesday) and it's a very interesting movie. It's very shocking to see morons saying it's the American duty to own stockpiles of guns. The fact that you can get a free gun for opening a bank account is insane, and the footage from the Columbine security cameras is just devistating to watch. Dude, Where's my Country sounds like a good book, I might have to read it (yes, I will actually read something on my own!....maybe) [/b][/quote] we have been trying to fight him for like 20 years.... if he was killed his son would have come... he had everything in control...if i was still there then "i had to join his army and fight the US and UK Terrorists ".....otherwise my family would have been killed including me..... i know US has not to babysit the world.... but now they are already there...you should look forward..... do you think if they leave now everything will be alright?....dont think so...
No, if the US didn't leave, nothing would be alright there, but should that be our concern, especially considering that the government here has a deficit of 500 Billion dollars? No. And apparantley a lot of Iraqi's don't even appreciate our help. Today, yet another car bomb went off in an attempt to kill US soilders.
Just because that stupid monkey Bush couldnt find Osama, Bush went over to Saddam. He didnt do anything at that moment. Everyone has nuclear weapons and stuff. But he wanted to capture Saddam and let the other countrys say: Ooohhh... Bush is good!. Which is not. If Holland has a war, we dont need USA or some weird country from Africa, we can do it our own. If not, well, we still dont want them hope this post made any sense :wth:
it doesnt concern you now And thats what US also didnt before 9/11.... Those who dont appreciate it are the brainwashed Sadddam followers... do you think a normal iraqi civilian would explosed him self? come on man...its all the foundalism brainwashed and al-queda member who are doing this dude.
no i dont think he attacked Saddam because he didnt find Osama i think he did use the strategy to use iraq for a base to attack Iran and from then to North Korea..... i know it sounds Like C&C but you can look it for your self in the atlas Iran would be easier to catch when you attack from 2 sides Afghanistan and Iraq....
Does that amount of money even exist? Where does the government come up with these bullsh*t numbers? How exactly can you spend 500 Billion dollars, much less expect to get it all back? Sounds like a bad Las Vegas casino movie.
hmm i think bush sucks. i just dont think he played it correctly, if you get my point... ...which you probably aint. but thats ok. but im glad theres no saddam anymore.
it doesnt concern you now And thats what US also didnt before 9/11.... Those who dont appreciate it are the brainwashed Sadddam followers... do you think a normal iraqi civilian would explosed him self? come on man...its all the foundalism brainwashed and al-queda member who are doing this dude. [/b][/quote] Don't double post. And yes, it does concern him. He's an American citizen. He could be the one getting laid off next week, then have a very tough time getting a new job, falling into poverty. The rest of your post doens't make sense so I won't try to decipher that.
My opinions can be found in the politics post. They're too long to retype here but to summarize my summarization : Yes, Bush is that much of an ass.
I mainly agree with Todd, who's one of the few USA citizens who don't have that dumb (although biased by Oil companies) Bush type of thinking. And to those who keep saying that Saddam and Osama should be killed: was it OK when George's dad trained Osama via CIA and when your taxes went to funding Hussein? No offence, i just find those who rule (or ruled, or that will rule) USA too hypocriting.
None taken. I'm a U.S. citizen, and I agree 100% with you. I STILL don't see how Bush won the 2000 election, but he will not win the 2004. John Kerry is really going to throw him out. Sunday morning on "Meet the Press," Bush tried to cover up all his policy questions by disagreeing with the host, never agreeing with one statement he made. That, is bad on his regime. If Saddam had ANY WOMD, we supplied him the weapons in the 80's when the Iraq-Iran war was stirring. Now Bush is trying to cover up the intelligence officer/mole and say that they lacked the information needed.
Bush shouldn't have won the 2000 election. Al Gore was winning the electoral race, and then Flordia, the state that "coincidentally" is governed by Bush's brother, decided to "mess up" and have a "recount."
I don't support Bush in any way, shape or form, but there was a reason to go to Iraq, and that was to capture Saddam, which needed to be done, regardless of what 'side' you're on. And not to mention the Iraqi people needed to be 'liberated'. But I hope nothing happens over there democracy wise, because our democracy is ####ed up as it is, we don't need a USA Jr. We need to find Osama, though. That should have been done WAY before 2001. ####, they even know of Osama before September 11th. [/b][/quote] I agree with Casey...too a point. Sadam needed to be captured, because whether he was gonna use the weapons against us or not, he's dangerous. But Bush had no evidence of him going to use any weapon, chemical, nuclear, whatever they are called, and he still, after what? 2 years? has found no trace of "weapons of mass destruction". The Iraqi people did need liberated, and I'm glad we did that. But it really is none of our business. We lost many women and men for no reason at all. We should let Sadam out of his cage so he can attack Bush. And then shoot Sadam... Also, Sadam wouldn't have those weapons if...who was it...oh yeah, USA gave them away!! I'm a US citizen, and I love America. But sometimes we're really dumb..
I agree with Casey...too a point. Sadam needed to be captured, because whether he was gonna use the weapons against us or not, he's dangerous. But Bush had no evidence of him going to use any weapon, chemical, nuclear, whatever they are called, and he still, after what? 2 years? has found no trace of "weapons of mass destruction". The Iraqi people did need liberated, and I'm glad we did that. But it really is none of our business. We lost many women and men for no reason at all. We should let Sadam out of his cage so he can attack Bush. And then shoot Sadam... Also, Sadam wouldn't have those weapons if...who was it...oh yeah, USA gave them away!! I'm a US citizen, and I love America. But sometimes we're really dumb.. [/b][/quote] They had a reason for it in first place : Iran took U.S. hostages in 1980 (or around this year), so the Iran-Iraq war was a good way for the U.S. to take their revenge... If we can call this a reason . Same thing for Afghanistan, they gave them weapons to drive away the Soviets, but they turned their back on the U.S.
No one needed to be liberated. Saddam wasn't doing nothing wrong. Most of the violence that happened in Iraq when Saddam was in power was caused by his son Oday. Saddam jailed him so many times, he even tried to kill him around 1996 but it only left him paralyzed. Thats the stupidest excuse ever. So say now I kill your family, would you forgive me if I tell you that its already done and that we should look at what is infront of us? I don't think so Ah I don't think anyone would be happy if someone invaded their country. I'm originally from Iraq but I'm also Canadian, and if someone invaded Canada and I'm here. Holy #### I'd be pissed even if the government is bad. After your home is destroyed and your family's dead. Than you would do anything to revenge. and is invading Iran and North Korea something we should support? Can't you understand that thousands of innocent of people die? How the hell is he dangerous? He was hiding in a god damn hole, that shows you how harmless he is. Tha majority of the iraqis prefer Saddam over the American occupation because now they don't have electricity only for like 2 hours a day, no jobs, no privacy (Americans broke into my aunts house and they stripped her down saying that she may be a suicide bomber). ------------------------ the main reason why Bush invaded Iraq was for the oil, or he wouldn't have spend billions of dollars if they weren't gonna get anything from it. Bush and his administraion doesn't give a crap about people suffering, if they did than he should've went and helped millions of people that are dying of aids in Africa.
No, that show's he's a coward. A p*ssy. You dont see Osama Bin Laden flying a plane into a building himself, he hires some radicals to do it for him.