Why doesnt Linkin Park have guitar solos?

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    Methybrea

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    Keaton, you have some great points, but I disagree on your last point on guitar solos. Its really interesting when instruments are given the spotlight, even for a bar or two. Little drum fills, standout basslines, and little samples/scratches, guitar solos: they are all things that should be included in songs IMO!
     
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    I meant Tool itself, not side projects. :rolleyes:
     
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    They don't totally need to REVAMP their whole style Will!! I would just like some improvement in the songwriting dept :lol:

    As for my little 'plan', that would be going with my 'ideals' and opinions. I know what you mean about LP, going all metal and prog or something. That would be a bit to far they should be themselves, but they SHOULD expand their musical horizons, and the fans should take what they get. Thats what music is about.

    That would suck if DT went mainstream like that...but that would be regression instead of progression: what LP has to do!
     
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    I see what you're saying, Will.



    they'll have to take a chance sooner or later or they run the chance of losing fans because all the songs sound the same.
     
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    They don't totally need to REVAMP their whole style Will!! I would just like some improvement in the songwriting dept :lol:

    As for my little 'plan', that would be going with my 'ideals' and opinions. I know what you mean about LP, going all metal and prog or something. That would be a bit to far they should be themselves, but they SHOULD expand their musical horizons, and the fans should take what they get. Thats what music is about.

    That would suck if DT went mainstream like that...but that would be regression instead of progression: what LP has to do! [/b][/quote]
    It's just that they're afraid to take chances, you know? They're afraid to do things like guitar solos and whatnot because I think they feel like they'll lose a ton of fans and then they'd lose their popularity and whatnot.

    Guess it's just me.
     
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    Yeah, thats true. I think theyd much rather lose a few fans by not changing styles than losing tons for completely changing.
     
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    For me anyways, I would take writing good music over popularity. It isn't a popularity contest! Besides, if they write music thats really well done and from the heart and expanding musically, they will be given the credit they deserve! Even if they do some experimenting in SOME of the tracks I would be pleased!
     
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    Judging from HT to Meteora they are kind of afraid of taking chances.
     
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    no solos!!! no guitar solos!!! They're numetal not metal...
     
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    If you are already listening to rock music, shouldn't you be used to hearing guitar solos? I don't get why doing guitar solos would drive the fans away. It should only increase their popularity. If you're really a fan, you should accept them even if they change styles. Change is good and it wouldn't hurt if the band did that.
     
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    If you want to hear guitar solos, go listen to Iron Maiden. Seriously. Or Megadeth. If you want to hear NIN, go listen to NIN. If you want to listen to Linkin Park, listen to Linkin Park.

    They do what they do, simply and unpretentiously. They fill a gap that other bands do not, hence popularity. It's the essence of nu-metal, or whatever it's morphed into - They Don't Do Guitar Solos.

    Honestly, guys - you have Chester - artist, vocalist, guitarist... Mike - MC/vocalist, guitarist, artist... Phoenix - guitarist, cellist, violinist, artist... Joe Hahn - DJ, artist, video director, keyboardist... What more do you want?

    Saying they don't take risks is ridiculous - listen to the strings on Faint, the backwards-looped guitars on Somewhere I Belong... The strings-laden remix of Crawling... The superb Jonathan-Davis-featuring take on One Step Closer.

    If you don't like it, go listen to someone else. After all, the charts are exactly a popularity contest...
     
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    for me as a die-hard fan.... :angry:
    LP kicks Nirvana,Metallica,korn and every other band ass!
    respect for their fans but plz dont confuse LP with metal....
    solo ? what A.06 is awsome!
    LP is a drug,...borred hell no even not of Reanimation wich is da bomb as well....
    Pakistani Metal Head we will see in the next 17 years if 2 songs of LP will be remeberd or their whole albums....(its not attacking you but i had to say it ) :peace:
     
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    In my opinion, guitar solos have been worn out to the highest degree. I would like to hope that Linkin Park would continue to be creative and come up with something else. Besides, I really don't think Brad wants that kind of attention anyways.
     
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    100% agreed with J Money

    the only thing they could do i guess is doing featering other bands like Evanscence/Metallica/Chemical Brothers....limp bizkit and papa roach may not fit because of their swearing...
     
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    what?!
     
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    If you want to hear guitar solos, go listen to Iron Maiden. Seriously. Or Megadeth. If you want to hear NIN, go listen to NIN. If you want to listen to Linkin Park, listen to Linkin Park.

    They do what they do, simply and unpretentiously. They fill a gap that other bands do not, hence popularity. It's the essence of nu-metal, or whatever it's morphed into - They Don't Do Guitar Solos.

    Honestly, guys - you have Chester - artist, vocalist, guitarist... Mike - MC/vocalist, guitarist, artist... Phoenix - guitarist, cellist, violinist, artist... Joe Hahn - DJ, artist, video director, keyboardist... What more do you want?

    Saying they don't take risks is ridiculous - listen to the strings on Faint, the backwards-looped guitars on Somewhere I Belong... The strings-laden remix of Crawling... The superb Jonathan-Davis-featuring take on One Step Closer.

    If you don't like it, go listen to someone else. After all, the charts are exactly a popularity contest... [/b][/quote]
    Linkin Park would also like to evolve and try new things in the future. ;) Backwards strings? An experiment. Strings in Faint? Just faster riffs. They're all experiments which are minor and not risky at all. Guitar solos is more of a risk. It'd be a brand new thing for Linkin Park. It could make or break a song. Making chords faster or dicing them up in a computer and playing them backwards? That certainly is not risky. Instead of fidgeting around with older ideas, create brand new ones instead! Venture the unexplored paths.

    I'm not sure if you're one of those fans who will love every single thing Linkin Park put out no matter what, but some of us fans would like to see more risk taking and evolving on the next album. We speak out when we know LP aren't playing to their full potential without some producer watering down everything to be successful. Meteora was good and all, but it wasn't really anything that new compared to Hybrid Theory, a truly groundbreaking album of it's genre. I love Meteora, and I love Hybrid Theory, but they're too similar to like one and not like the other. I'd like to see some acoustic stuff, deeper lyrics than Meteora (back towards their Hybrid Theory EP days, and HT songs like Forgotten and A Place For My Head), Mike singing. Most of these things are new things (aside from the lyrics, which couldn't get much better back in the old days) instead of tweaks to the old stuff.
     
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    If Micheal Jackson can have a guitar solo in his records, why cant Linkin Park?
     
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    OK...

    1) If they drop Joe, many of the fans are gonna be angry and stop buying there music. That would be the stupidest thing, even if Joe doesn't do much. He does make the videos, which most of them I love. P.O.D lost a lot of fans for dropping Marcos, and the same would happen to LP. You think they are gonna drop a person who has been there friend 10+ years? No...

    2) Yeah, we do know Chester can do the deathmetal growling and we know he can do it with the best of them. (Listen to/watch APFMY on LIT, and watch the interlude where Chaz is growling, he does 4 different tones and each or opposite of the others. That kills the voice. But I highly doubt he is gonna leave, he might do a side project, but he won't leave unless there is a big, big, biiiig arguement.

    3) Dunno if it was you or someone else who said LP isn't talented enough, but you must be the most ignorant fan in the world. LP haven't done there own 16+ min song with 8+guitar solo and 3+ min intros, like all those old heavy bands. But LP is NOT talentless. Ever heard Brad on Sweet O' Child Of Mine?? That was the most awesome thing in the world. (Ok, overstatement, I don't like the band who originally did the song.) Chester can go from the hardest death growling you can ever hear, to a soft melodic voice. He has one of the most unique voices in the world, and if you say he doesn't you don't know what your talking about.

    4) LP is my favorite band. And ever since Crawling, I have been a die hard fan. And I'm not gonna sit here and say "Oh Brad is the most awesome guitarist in the world, hes the next Petrucci!!", cause he's not. And I'm not gonna sit here and say the same with Pheonix compared to Flea, or Rob compared to Josh (Freese)...But I bet you LP could do a song harder than anything you'll ever hear if they wanted to do it.


    Listen, I would LOVE to hear a solo from Brad, like a 30 second one. And I would love to hear some angrier lyrics, and some harder riffs. Maybe some faster rapping...but I love LP as they are now also. Of course I want them to change, but if they throw out a member of the band who has been there since - the - start!! ----- and they totally change there sound, theres gonna be some questions going on.

    And if you didn't, read jst23's post, because I agree entirely with him/her (sorry I dunno if you are a guy or girl). If LP doesn't do solos, and you wanna hear them, go find Dream Theater, and if you wanna listen to LP, listen to LP.. but don't complain about the music they make.

    I also agree with PPR:KUT, they are numetal, not metal. And I definately don't want LP to turn into a death metal banging long blonde hair all over the place band.

    And last but not least, Casey, what is this about you saying that Chaz should stop being bald? Uh...who cares?? Yeah he and mike look cool with the spiked up colored hair, but your the one wanting them to change, make up your mind, jesus christ.
     
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    im a heavy metal fan and i enjoy lp music ... i nevr knew sum1 could make judgement 4 all heavy fans ! :eek:
    Anyway back 2 the topic ......

    I think personally that lp chooses not 2 do guitar solos is bcoz, they like the style they do bcoz its individual and sounds original ^_^
     
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    ... And guitar solo's are more of a risk?

    Acoustic stuff would be nice as long as they didn't do the trendy thing of having an orchestra along with it - which seems to be done by everyone anymore. Personally, I think "Breaking the Habit" was that type of song - yet it was LP's style. Yes, people have done orchestra-songs before... but, LP made their own style to it.

    There's no since of arguing with that. When you look at the records that Hybrid Theory set, and you say that, you can't help but feel ignorant.

    Brad messed up while playing that song and I don't even think it's that hard to play. Still, I'm not doubting his abilities but you get my point.

    Nu-metal is a term to set you back. I'm sure LP doesn't consider themselves that. I'm sure if Brad and Phoenix made their stuff harder to play and LP started to make raw, amazing music like they did in the EP days - they could break away from that.
     

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