There were a few drum parts that were really low that i feel should have been louder. Just before the last chorus is a good example.
I never noticed guitars on this either, thought Brad is making an ass of himself in the music video. Mixing does suck.
Yeah, heard Mike's vocals from the very first time I listened to the song, but couldn't clearly recognize what exactly he's singing until a few days ago when I heard a similar mix. They definitely need to be mixed louder, the way he sings it is amazing and being so burned down (yeah) in the mix surely takes away from the song. My other complaint might be the guitar - it could've been mixed louder imo, though it might not sound as good as I imagine it.
[video=youtube;THIAGpcYpCQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THIAGpcYpCQ[/video] With you on that, they might need to remaster it, on the other hand though perhaps it was intentional, giving the album that old school sound by not tampering with the EQ on anything. Yes! I want live drums goddamnit.
I love it when threads I'm not even participating in turn into discussions about me. I'd assume the only reason Mike's backing vocals are lower than usual on Burn it Down is because some of them are in unison with Chester (like on "there at the turn," it starts as a harmony but they end up in unison on the word "turn"). You could crank the backing vocals up more to make the harmonies a bit more prominent, but it would cause the unison parts to sound louder than than the vocals do in other parts of the song.
I think too much focus is being put on Manny and all the other mixers LP has used in the past. Mixing is important, yes, but what's actually important is the product that the six guys in LP produce. The interview article with Manny has put too much focus on this role.
I watched MOATS and have concluded that due to the deadlines, there weren't enough time for post-production D:
Too much focus? It wouldn't matter if the song was mixed by Manny or Neil or whatever, if it's badly mixed it's badly mixed. There's a shitload of elements in the song that I can't hear and would make it 10 times better.
I'm not arguing mixing isn't important: it could make a good song bad and a bad song good. However, in the contexts of the entire song and how people will listen to it, a lot of those elements are going to go unnoticed anyway. Mixing's tough. Everyone is going to have different opinions on which elements should be the loudest and which elements should just be background players.
i noticed how mike voice is so low in the mix, when i noticed his voice was there, i just pulled my ear phones out a bit from the plug and i heard mikes vocals. i think one of the best things i found about burn it down was how you can discover little sounds that make the song sound epic.
But it's obvious now that with several examples of YouTube videos the song could've been mixed way better. Not only that, but also could've been done better too, if Mike and Chester sang the verses together in an actual call-and-response way. That would've been innovative for them, and sounded great.
Maybe my sense of hearing isn't keen enough to notice differences like that or I just can't appreciate sound engineering, but I just can't wrap my head around the utter importance of mixing. I guess I have no choice but to listen to what you have to say about it, you clearly know more than I do on the subject. I just didn't realize mixing could change so much in a song.
Lol so much discussion over something I find to have little importance. When its bad, you can really hear it and I think Lp only has a few of those moments
I can hear the guitars just fine and I don't know much about the subject but ill go off of what Astat says for Mike's vocals, which means its better Mike's vocals are like that
It's just like In Between and Chester's backing vocals. You can hear them clearly when they come up. It's not as easy to hear Mike's harmony in Burn It Down.
A stripped down version of the song sung by Mike with his vocal part would sound a lot better than the original song in my opinion. I might actually listen to that version.