The LPA Political Roll Call

Discussion in 'Serious Chat' started by SuperDude526, May 12, 2011.

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    $pvcxGhxztCasey

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    Name: Casey

    Nationality: American

    Religious Views: Agnostic

    Political Views: extremely liberal?

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    Gay rights: It's whatever. I mean, it should be legal, yeah, but I'm not going to toss and turn at night because it's not.

    Gun ownership: I think it should be harder to get a gun than it is, but that being said, I don't even know what you need to get one in the first place. It just seems to me that something like an semi-automatic weapon shouldn't be available to the general public. Call me crazy.

    Market regulation: I don't know what this means, nor do I care, since I'm 21 and I'm the center of my own world.

    Taxation: Tax the rich. They might work for their money like everyone else, and that's entirely debatable, but they make up an extreme minority, it could be used to benefit others.

    Socialized/universal health care/anything: The government is there to, quite literally, protect us and care for us when we need it the most. Isn't when we're sick when we need the most, not when a middle eastern country "needs our help"?

    Abortion: Pro-choice, but I can see the other side of the argument and ALMOST agree with it. But, ultimately, it's the choice of the woman, I think. It's their body, their temple. They get to decide what can or can't grown inside of them.

    Environment: I don't know. Go green, make electric cars or use alternative energy. But, we'll rely on foreign oil to service our every need for a long time to come, in my opinion.

    Race/gender relations: free earl

    Israel: I don't follow this issue.

    - pro-drugs
    - i think if our national debt ceiling just broke, everything possible should be getting a budget readjustment. nothing should get an increase.
    - foreign affairs is bullshit, and we shouldn't get involved unless asked or provoked. we have our own problems instead of trying to fix Libya.
    - my ideal government would be 100% transparent, no secrecy. i realize how impossible that is given the world climate since, well, forever.
     
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    ThaHandyman

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    The whole Trump thing, was unbelievably embarrassing, ugly, and just dumb, he will get nowhere in our party. I guess you can say its racist, but its more political than racial. Who cares what color he is if theres any doubt or rumor about a political leader the opposing party will use it against them.

    Which brings me to another point, I hate how divided America is, but I honestly don't see a way out.
     
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    Gloomy Mushroom

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    Wtf is wrong with people who think that being raped isn't traumatising enough, let alone falling pregnant to some person that violated you?
     
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    travz21

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    I'm definitely pro-choice. I just don't understand how people who are pro-life can pick and choose when it's ok to "murder" a baby. Being raped or not has nothing to do with it. Either you're against it or you're for it. Anything in between just doesn't make sense.
     
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    It falls under the term "Exceptions" like saying you're either pro-labour or pro-liberal, when you can say "Hey I don't like Gilliard's carbon tax idea BUT I am all for the idea of sending the boat people back to Indonesia". And considering that rape isn't with consent either, so I think the people who are against but have exceptions, would rather be against planned sex abortions.
     
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    travz21

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    I don't understand really any of the stuff you just said.

    All I mean is how can people consider themselves pro-life when they don't always consider the life of the potential child? To say it's ok to abort them in rape instances seems so illogical. Pro-life has nothing to do with the mother.
     
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    esaul17

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    I kind of agree with travz on that one. If you say the fetus is a human life and deserves the same rights to all of us, I don't see how it makes any sense to punish them for the crime of being the product of a rape. Saying the suffering of the woman giving birth is worse than murder seems odd to me.
     
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    The Fortunate One

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    The psychological effect of being raped coupled with that of bearing a scar of that memory may be hard on women who have suffered sexual assault. I think it is a case of exceptionalism based on circumstances.
     
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    travz21

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    So why not make an exception with any woman who wants to do whatever she wants? Why does she need to get raped for pro-lifers to accept abortions? They shouldn't even be thinking about the woman. They should be thinking about they kid. And to make exceptions isn't living up to the pro-life label. Every yet-to-be-born is equal in their minds (at least it should be), so to treat some unequally is biased.
     
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    The Fortunate One

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    It's a rock and a hard place kinda thing. That's where it's hard to draw the line.
     
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    travz21

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    How is it hard to draw a line if you're pro-life? You either value their life or you don't. They can't throw some kids aside or that goes against what they stand for.
     
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    SuperDude526

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    By the way you guys, you CAN choose other political issues to express your views on, those are just the ones I feel passionate or wanted to talk a little about. :p
     
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    SuperDude526

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    Up top my man, gimme some skin. o/

    p.s. The reason I mentioned the voting one was essentially because of all the teabaggers bitching about the electorate they elected for. Obviously this is a problem: if they don't care enough to pay attention to what's going on in the political arena, they're not gonna choose someone who best represents their interests. If they willingly and knowingly render themselves ignorant to this, why should they be allowed to vote? That is, unless a test is administered at the ballot to make sure they're paying attention and that, if they DO vote for the guy who's gonna screw them over in the end, at least they did so in full knowledge that they're screwing themselves over and this fact can be verified through objective Q+A (who voted for what, how high the tax bracket is, what were x politician's policies in his previous office, etc.).
     
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    The Fortunate One

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    Well let's start with nullifying the Federal Reserve and Patriot Acts. Furthermore cease TSA's camouflaged child molestation at airports. :p:
     
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    This "pro-life vs pro-choice" debate is rather making me uncomfortable seeing that I am 33 weeks pregnant and if my baby was the result of rape, I wouldn't have made the choice to keep it, for the sake of my psyche with the baby being a constant reminder of what happened. I wouldn't let the kid even live with the fact that she was a result of rape, a violation of a woman's privacy and not one of planned sex. I could only imagine what effects it might have on her later in life, when she's old enough to understand the term "rape".
     
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    Theazninvasion68

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    Trust me, it's still alive and well. Maybe they don't get wide mainstream attention, but it's definitely here still.
     
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    travz21

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    Pro-life isn't about making choices. So when you start making choices, what are those people? It's just fun to try and get in the mindset of such a person. How they can stand so strong on a this view on abortions but have exceptions is beyond me. Either they value life or they don't. The circumstances of conception do not matter.


    As for voting, if we only let knowledgeable people vote we'd only have like 5% of the nation voting.
     
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    It baffles me how people can have opinions or positions on what OTHER people can and can't do with their bodies.
     
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    Gloomy Mushroom

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    It's compulsory to vote here. If you don't, you get a fine. I've had that happen to me, all because I didn't vote in a local election.
     
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    Theazninvasion68

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    Say, if we're going to have a pro-choice/life talk, maybe starting up another thread as it's only a small portion related to original post.
     

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