I'm sorry for singling you out on this, but you're guilty of the double standard I'm thinking of. Because that one status you had made me think of this in the first place. By this, as long as Chris Brown keeps making good music, then who cares? His criminal behavior doesn't change who he is as a musician. Again, sorry for singling you out.
I hate Michael Vick for murdering those dogs. I think that if he had his 'redemption tour' as the NFL so eloquently put it last year, it should have been with the ASPCA, not on the field playing football earning a million dollars a year. Further more, Chris Brown is a scumbag for hitting his girlfriend. As much as she may (or may not) have deserved it, a man should never lay is hand on a woman in a violent manner. If I had my way in sentencing both of these scum of the earth low lives, I would have punished them in the same sence of what got them there. I'm sure a steak-soaked Vick would taste good to 20 pit bulls and I know a lot of drunk dudes that would love to wail on someone to within an inch of them losing their life that put their hands on a woman the way Brown did. I'm just saying. Blood for blood, eye for an eye you reap what you sow.
If you didn't want to bring me into this, you wouldn't have gone to such great lengths to find and screen cap that status. Basically, as your post shows...you have a problem with me having what you perceived as a "double standard", and you're right. I defended Michael Vick, and attacked Chris Brown. I am guilty of a double standard. So truth be told? They're both fucking cowards. They're talented, and there's no denying that...but they're cowards.
I don't think killing animals and hitting women are anywhere near the same level of evil, and lumping them together as a "double standard" shouldn't be the case. Yeah, they are both wrong, but Vick actually is redeeming himself. What has Chris Brown done? Lol, I know. That's ridiculous. You have a better chance of making it on their show if you beat on women than if you kiss some dudes. I guess people can look past some abuse.
i feel that way about chris volz. i love flaw and still follow what he does despite his personal life.
He's on his way. He served his time in jail. He's treating his profession more responsibly than he used to. He's paying back the debt he owed when he went bankrupt. This is what jail is supposed to do. It is supposed to reform criminals. He seems like a completely different person now. You have to applaud the system when it rarely works. And you have to applaud the person that gets their life back in order. You don't have to forgive him, but whatever. People kill animals gruesomely all the time while hunting and people seem to have no problem with that. Are dogs a higher class of animal? If so, wouldn't humans be the highest class? Yet Chris Brown gets away with punching and choking a woman. That was my only point for this thread really. Going off on Michael Vick could be a whole different thread entirely.
I hunt and the difference between hunting and what Michael Vick did is this: Whatever I shoot, it's a quick clean kill. With my kill, I clean it and eat it. Vick had dogs that he trained to maim and murder other dogs for sport and profit. I make no profit on the food I can supply my family. When the dogs did not live up to Vick's expectations, he killed the dogs in the most inhumane way possible. Drowning them, pouring cement on them while they were still alive and beating their brains in with a rock is nowhere near what hunting is. A hunter still respects the kill and uses what he can from the kill to supply his needs. To compare what Vick did to "hunters" was very ignorant of you. I also think that if he wanted true redemption and really wanted to show he was a changed man, he would have worked with the ASPCA for awhile before coming back into football. I also think that he should donate most of his million a year salary to the ASPCA. I get it, he f*cked up, and you can say he's a reformed man until your blue in the face, I just don't buy that he's truly sorry for what he did. Actions speak louder than words. Sorry this is a little off of topic, but I felt like I needed to throw my piece in.
You can't really compare hunting, at least when it's done properly and for food and stuff like that, to what Michael Vick did either. That and there are actually plenty of people who hate hunting full stop, or there are here anyway. I still wouldn't say there's a lot of difference between the two, because when it comes down to it both were very violent acts that show a basic lack of regard for the wellbeing of other living things, and if you go that far with dogs I don't think there's much to stop you from letting rip on a person either, probably not to the same extent but still. Maybe Vick has been rehabilitated though. It certainly seems like Chris Brown still has issues.
I'm one of the people that you could say is "anti-hunting." I do believe that killing dogs and killing a deer shouldn't be different. Now, as HybridSoldier eluded to, it's a bit of a different story when you kill the dogs in a gruesome way and more importantly, make money off of it. Though, Dean's last paragraph above sums it up pretty well. For me anyways.
The way I see it, when it comes down to it, humans didn't get to the top of the food chain by not eating animals. Also, where I hunt, if the hunting season was banned and no one was allowed to hunt for deer, the deer population would quickly spiral out of control and more deer would die from starvation than the population control that hunting season offers. I hate to see any animal suffer. I value you're 'non-hunting' belief and that's you're belief, I cannot change that, however, unless you're a vegan, I see no difference in the meat that I can supply through hunting from the meat that I can buy from a store(sans growth hormones). I am thankful and grateful for the nutrition I receive from any animal I eat. To clarify myself, I have a house full of pets (a dog 3 cats and 2 fishtanks) and I care for their well-being. In fact, I love all animals and believe they need to be treated humanely and respectfully. I see a huge difference between that and dog fighters.
I'm the opposite of a vegetarian, haha. I dunno, I suppose I might be using a double standard, saying that hunting is bad but eating meat is okay. Though, I would argue that at least Cows/Chickens/Pigs supply a good percentage of food that humans eat in their everyday lives. You can't say the same for deer meat. Holy crap, we are WAY off topic .
I'm not sure if I'm the first person to bring this up or not, but I'd argue that you probably shouldn't hit anyone. Regardless of either parties gender.