So I'm not sure if this is for all Universities, I believe it's just state universities. I'm, not sure about all the details, I just read it in the campus paper, but concealed carry has recently brought up. Personally, I'm all for it on my campus, serious background checks are ran, you have to file tons of paper work, and pay a fee. I honestly think the campus would be a lot safer (not that I ever feel in danger) with concealed carry. I don't think this is the best option for some universities (inner city), but mine is in a college town, and this place is super friendly to start with, so maybe that's why I'm not to worried. Thoughts?
this might be the dumbest idea i've ever heard. then again, the campus my roommate attends just had 2 shootings in 3 days.
Why would there need to be any firearms permitted on the college campus by students at all? This is an awful idea, even if there are background checks that need to be completed in order to carry a gun.
Because their are idiots who don't care what the law says, and will still carry guns. It's a right to bear arms, and as long as training, background checks, and mental stability are enforced, I think its a great thing. Another law was you have to be 21, if it this was allowed, which I'm only 19, but I still think thats a good rule as well.
Maybe you should first work on stopping those idiots who wear guns before you give them to the idiots who don't have them yet.
The thing is most often people who fire on campus are mentally unstable, and/or disregard the law whatsoever. We had a (barely off campus) shooting, some dude shot this guy in the foot and jacked his laptop ran off, tripped in the volleyball sandpit, dropped the laptop, and ran off. We were lucky it turned out to be somethin really funny and the dude wasnt seriously hurt, and just cracked jokes the whole interview after. Anyway if the dude was packin (lawfully, repeat lawfully) I mean people wouldnt be runnin around tryin to hurt innocent people, cuz those innocent people can defend themselves.
because you can enforce mental stability, right? dude. all it takes is failing one class or a bad break-up to make these college kids fucking snap. these kids are under so much pressure that they take prescription drugs to stay up all night and cram for a test. i don't know if adding a gun to the mix is such a good idea. slow down, Charlton Heston.
When I was at college, a student got a bad grade, snapped, and took a knife and powdered sugar into a classroom and claimed he had anthrax. No one was hurt, the swat team came in, campus was closed, we got the day off, fun was had by all. But, I shudder to think what could've happened if he had a gun. It could have been another Virginia Tech. Students should not be carrying guns on campus. Period.
I'm not necessarily against owning weapons full stop to be honest, but the whole "more guns means people think twice about messing with other people" thing is kind of naive and illogical to me. There's no guarantee that people are going to use them for good, whether or not they can get through screenings. You can just as well say that if guns are more available it means there are more people who have that advantage over those who are unarmed, or that it's easier for them to go toe to toe with others who aren't. Also, what's the rate of people in America who are killed intentionally with guns? It usually seems to be as high as most countries, and they have a pretty serious gun culture there as far as I know.
Mental stability would be enforced the best it can be, they don't just hand out guns. This isn't a bunch of freshmen running around with guns. You have be 21, pay a fee, take a class, and be mentally stable. There's something unstable about someone who snaps like that, I worked 8 hours last night until midnight and woke up for a review session today at 7, thats college. I've never taken any kind of drug (sans caffeine), though one of my friends was tweaking before finals and failed her math class. That's beside the point, they're not handing out guns, as serious as guns are taken these days (as they should be), I don't see them being misused. It's not some of us kids aren't packing already (i personally don't, just a knife in the car), this will just further encourage safely owning and operating a concealed firearm.
Just because they don't just "hand out guns" doesn't mean that the mentally unstable don't have access to them.
No. You can run all the tests you want, but you never really know if someone will fucking snap and blow someone's head off in their English Lit class or something. It's not as black and white as you're making it out to be. And, it's good to know that you know people who pack heat. Good for them. Guns on college campuses is a TERRIBLE idea. You're acting like being of a certain age and paying fees and taking gun classes will ultimately stop someone from gunning down a few people. It won't.
A very bad idea. Regulations don't mean shit either. I mean, it's easy as hell to get a gun off the black-market or even at flee-markets. There are no police guarding yard sells or the like and I've been to many where people just paid cash, and were given firearm. It's a dangerous and bad idea.
See that's the thing, so many people argue for the legalization of Marijuana, and I am NOT repeat not guys! saying that these two are the same in any manner, but i'll continue, many people say "hey, people are gonna sell it, with or without legalization, why not just pass regulations and keep it legal." Again, these two issues differ greatly, but I am underlining the common principles here. People will posses guns, legal or not, and surely, yes the passing of a concealed weapons rule would raise the gun count, but I believe there would be more well-intentioned people, as opposed to the ill-intentioned that posses them.
if it does happen (i doubt it), the whole situation is begging for another columbine or virgina tech. and it'll happen, because it would be legal to carry a firearm onto campus. all of this money spent to protect our schools, with security guards and police officers and metal dectors and shit, and then, awww fuck it, let's just legalize concealed carry. yeah!
The simple fact is that more guns = more danger. Allowing guns in schools would only help the people who easily snap be more confident in carrying a gun in school. Sorry, It's a horrible idea and I can't agree with it.