Oh I know most people are butthurt about that. But it's not my case and it pissed me off when Mike said in 2007 that if people didn't like the album it's because they wanted them to do HT3 or didn't like change which was in my opinion a way to discredit any criticism when it wasn't the case for a lot of people. I'm just talking about how I felt about that album, not what I would have want LP to sound like. I had no ideas of what ATS could sound like and I wasn't disappointed. I had no idea what MTM would have sound like (because they did warn us that it was a big change) and I was disappointed. Instead of cutting LOATR, I'd cut Valentine's day. I wouldn't put it over HT but the album would have been way better.
You know what? The difference with you and Jay is that I don't agree with Jay but I respect his opinion and it doesn't piss me off to reply to what he says and I enjoy talking with him. You? Well continue laughing, i'm out of your thread, have fun praising MTM in your world where you get to have the truth.
You called their most unpredictable album before ATS came out, predictable. Not only does each song on the album sound a little different, the whole album is different from the other albums. Sorry I'm not on the Hybrid Theory Rulez bandwagon. You act like only in a dream world this album is acceptable. What a sad and sickening thought.
I'm about sick of reading things like, "it doesn't sound like LP"' and "it doesn't look like LP art". Who the fuck are we, as fans, to say what LP are supposed to look or sound like? They've only put out FOUR studio albums, which is less than half of the amount of albums some of the greatest bands in the world have released, and aside from the first two, we've gotten something different and solid with every release.
I'm not the HT rulez bandwagon either. and sickening? this is just music, calm down. And the album may be different but the songs are predictable from the beginning to the end and the lack of power and strenght of the songs, the lack of emotion provided does not even make the unoriginality tolerable like it was for Meteora. I'm out for real now. So it's ok for you that people bash on Meteora and the consensus makes it OK, but if you hate MTM then you are a bad fan that doesn't know what you're talking about? This is not right to say that we can't say that it doesn't sound like LP. Mike said it that it doesn't sound like what they did before. And i'm glad MTM doesn't sound like what LP are capable of, because they can do much more grandiose songs and I feel like saying that MTM is a piece of art is saying that they can't do much better, and they can. Just look at ATS. It kills MTM all the way.
You quoted me, yet your post has nothing to do with what you quoted. Final hypothesis: You have no clue what the hell you're talking about.
The first sentence has nothing to do with it, not the rest. Final hypothesis? I won't enter in personal insults, if you guys can't take other opinions it's not my problem.
MTM to me was an album you listen to until the next album and end of story. While HT was an album you just listen to whenever, same with ATS. Meteora, was meh.
Giving my opinion has nothing to do with not taking people's opinion. Saying that I have no clue about what i'm talking about is.
Lets think like this. HT and M were chains...very catchy and sexy chains that pulled almost everyone and locked them in the cage. For some people, they enjoy the lyrics...but for some, they couldn't because it was too much whining. MTM was a rock, yeah a rock that LP sends to every single person who was locked to break the chains. (According to its "hard to follow, take long time to grow" thingy....it is described as a rock) As you can see, some of them can escape with that rock, some of them can't. When ATS came, it was a sword...for people who still being chained and locked in the cage to escape...but some of them couldn't and still whining about LP not giving them more tortures (HT part 3) For people who loves ATS, we must thank MTM to be a long bridge to make a way for LP to this day, this era.
IMO, any real emotion Meteora had was burried with the constant re-writing of everything. Most of those songs feel sterile to me. If you really think stuff like TLTGYA, HHH, V-Day, IB lack power & emotion (especially in comparison to Meteora) I don't know what to say. And I disagree about (most) of the songs being predictable. When it comes to grandiose songs they have never surpassed Krwlng & TLTGYA. Except for a few other songs the words "grandiose" or "epic" couldn't be used to describe their catalog. I agree (I think most of us do) that as an album ATS > the rest of the catalog. But for me, TLTGYA > any song on ATS.
Any more pointless bickering and this thread will be closed. Learn to respect one another's opinions and be reasonable when expressing yours. Thank you. And it's not that MTM itself was predictable, but all of the songs on it could have been done by anyone else. It wasn't original, unique material. It was just new for Linkin Park. Even the best tracks like The Little Things Give You Away could be easily done by anyone else. It screamed Snow Patrol. Shadow of the Day was "With or Without You" with different lyrics. Those are my two cents, anyway.