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    Casual D

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    I'm using Firefox right now, I've heard from some that it's overrated..but right now it seems okay. As long as it's safe and cant be hijacked as easily as IE, then I dont care.
     
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    Guys, as someone who is majoring in computer science and IT in college, I'm going to throw in my 2 cents about reformatting. Everyone's saying that its a bad thing to do, ect. As long as you are able to back up your stuff, a reformat won't hurt and its a good thing to do every once in awhile, especially after a problem like this, to guarantee every last bit of the virus is gone. In fact, I would recommend to Derek that when he has some free time, to wipe his drive clean to make sure the virus is gone for good. When I still used Windows, I would reformat every couple months just to make sure my drive was clean. Now with a Mac that isnt neccesary since there are no viruses or spyware that effects me :p
     
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    Since we're on the subject of Firefox. To anyone who knows HTML, does anyone know why Firefox doesn't load CSS the way IE does? It's like their compatability with CSS is a much lower version than IE's. That's so frustrating. :lol:
     
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    Definately.

    Defragging only does so much.

    Neil's Tip:
    If you have a large hard drive, don't install windows on it, instead, install a master drive of about 10-15 gigs, then if anything goes wrong, you don't lose everything on your big drive, and you can backup the whole master drive to the larger one if you ever need to reformat.

    - Saved my ass tons of times. Good 'ol 120gig.
     
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    I have a pitiful 20 gig. Although maybe if I ever get a large one I'll format the 20 gig and use it as a backup. Thanks.
     
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    "Nothing breaks on a Mac because nothing works on a Mac."

    :chemist:
     
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    Other way around, buddy. IE's standard's are shit. They are completely out of date. Acid2 will hopefully make them finally get up to date. :)
    [note: no browsers are currently able to pass this test]

    Gecko [Firefox] and whatever other engines there are [can't remember, shoot me.] up to date, meanwhile the IE engine is years behind. ;)

    And Derek, whoever said Firefox is overrated is using either Opera or something else, eh?
     
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    That doesn't answer my question, dude. Why doesn't Firefox load CSS the same way as it would on IE? I don't care about engines and crap, but it seems that if in fact Firefox is "more advanced" they shouldn't have to tamper with the already-fine CSS coding. Now, in order for any verticle aligning to be "correct" in Firefox, I now have to do so much more which is completely unnecessary.

    Also, including background properties. They don't work the same, either.
     
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    IE Standards = Wrong.
    FX Standards = Correct.

    There, even made it colourful for you. :)

    IE standards are crap, because it'll work even if the code isn't valid.

    I'm the the best person that could explain this to you. Go to www.neowin.net, they'll tell you. ;)
     
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    Yeah, but upping the standards means a lot of shortcuts for CSS are becoming invalid which makes CSS messy. If you're the person to talk to about this, you should know that! CSS can get unbelievably messy, also a lot of suggested coding has to be redone because of Firefox's "standard." Higher standards doesn't mean it should disreguard some shortcuts, no matter what.

    If you're like me, you no longer you tables because you can do everything by CSS nowadays, but it still sucks that if in fact I want a certain "effect" or "look" on my site, I'll have to make sure my CSS is Firefox friendly, because of their oh-so-higher "standard."

    I could care less for standards, shove 'em, shortcuts are what make coding clean and Firefox messes it up for us. :p
     
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    Meh, do whatever you want. But if you want more visitors to your site, you better have your site compliant with all browsers otherwise some people will be turned away because the site looks like shit in their browser. ;)
     
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    ...You're not serious, right, Tomi? You think I'm that much of a n00b I'm not making broswer-compatable websites? Tomi, I laugh at you! :lol:

    You missed my whole point, you loser. :p
     
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    I can't tell who's more lazy, me or you. ;)
     
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    Just to throw my two cents in here...

    From what I know, IE is the most popular browser, I mean this thing is used everywhere. Am I saying that its popular correlates with its quality? No, but either you can make something work for a small fraction of the people (Like HD TV :lol: ) or you can work around the problems to attract the larger audiences. I choose the second option, and as far as I care, while Firefox and Opera might be great programs (never used em), IE will be around for a long time, so you'd better get used to using it if you're a designer/coder.

    If you're just a user, then do whatever the hell you'd like lol.
     
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    Obviously someone doesn't read statistics. Firefox and Opera are slowly taking browser popularity from Microsoft. The only reason IE is most popular is that it's installed by default on your computer.

    When I'm coding, I try to make it work for all browsers. :) And if it works for Firefox, but not for IE. I say 'Screw IE.' ;) A fine example would be my current blog design. Renders perfect in Firefox, nightmare in IE.
     
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    Exactly.

    It's weird how Microsoft just...dominates...

    Bill Gates must be doing something to start a dictatorship. If you just look into his eyes...
     
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    Exactly.

    It's weird how Microsoft just...dominates...

    Bill Gates must be doing something to start a dictatorship. If you just look into his eyes... [/b][/quote]
    Read my previous post.

    Microsoft has the most browser usage because a large percentage of computer users use Windows and Internet Explorer is installed by default, and most new computer don't know about Firefox, so they're completely oblvious to the other browsers.....uhh...you should get the point by now.

    And how did this go from a virus discussion to a browser discussion?
     
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    Read my previous post.

    Microsoft has the most browser usage because a large percentage of computer users use Windows and Internet Explorer is installed by default, and most new computer don't know about Firefox, so they're completely oblvious to the other browsers.....uhh...you should get the point by now.

    And how did this go from a virus discussion to a browser discussion? [/b][/quote]
    Aight, I understand now.
     
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    Aight, I understand now. [/b][/quote]
    :)
    I was hoping you would because I didn't want to go indepth explaining everything as if I were talking to some idiot. :rolleyes:
     
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    Are you applying that I'm an idiot?

    ....

    Ha ha, just kidding.

    But no, no need to explain yourself. I wouldn't want to put you through that.
     

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