Censorship

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    Chris Luke

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    I understand Censorship but I think there's way to much. What do you people think?
     
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    Jila

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    agh, censorship is pointless (as in cursing, not nudity). its just what society believes is "bad". if you really look behind the meaning of everything, it doesnt even make sense. for instance, if you say "no ####" you dont really mean "no fecal matter" so it shouldnt really be vulgar. its just completely senseless and insane how far people go with censorship. they even take out words from songs that arent even curse words. some really stupid things ive seen so far are

    3 days grace- i hate everything about you: they took out the word "hit"
    weezer- hash pipe: they changed the word "hash" to "half"
    black eyed peas- let's get retarded: changed it to lets get it started.. or something
    eminem- superman: everything. they just went crazy with that song. they changed "handprints" with "footprints". what the hell?

    its just ridicculous. but i mean theyre being more leniant nowadays. you can say ass and recently bitch. you can say shit in canada too.

    as for nudity, i think there should be censorship because i dont want to see naked girls frolicing all over my television screen when a girls gone wild commercial comes on.
     
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    Chris Luke

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    Lets not forget The Take It Away video. Mtv blocks out the part were Bret Pulls The Alarm.
     
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    papa roach's last resort - "resort"
    korn's "y'all want a single" - "f*ck" -> "suck" (f*ck could've been removed, but "suck"? why not "screw that"?)
    enimem's "stan" - "trunk", "bleed", "vodka" -> "kool-aid".

    it's getting ridiculous.
     
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    Jila

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    hmm, ive never seen or heard of that video.

    oh, and d12s purple pills to purple hills. the songs end up making to sense whatsoever.
     
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    Whimsicality

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    I can understand some censorship. For example, I can see them editing "####" on the radio. I think it's understandable to blur naked people on TV.

    That said, I think things are often overcensored and it's more of a political tool then anything. They edited out "hit" on the Three Days Grace song, but not "ass" in a Pink song? Also, a lot of songs, especially rap songs have lyrical content that includes perverted sexual references, and no one really cares about that, but Howard Stern says "####" a lot, oh my!

    Personal Jesus mentioned MTV, well I haven't watched MTV in awhile but I remember them being goddamn ridiculous. We can see scantily clad girls, not only in videos but in their own shows, but yet Incubus's "Megalomaniac" only gets to be shown a few times late at night?

    I can understand that people don't want their six year olds going around telling people to "#### off." I can understand that people don't want there 12 year olds talking about "gettin' some cat."

    But wait, this is where morals come in. Well guess what? Who do kids, especially little kids, look to as an influence? Parents, not stuff they hear on the radio.

    It especially drives me crazy when people blame the media for school violence, kids being depressed and cutting themselves, etc. There are obviously deeper issues here.

    Like I said before, I understand a certain amount of censorship. But ultimately I think the way parents brought up there kids, and (especially as they get older) peer pressure influence a lot more then Eminem and Marilyn Manson.
     
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    Chris Luke

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    I mean you can make any random song. Say Manson, Eminem, or KoRn made it. Put out a video on MTV. Then they'll censor the living hell out of it.
     
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    I don't know why people are complaining about Censorship.

    We don't live in a society where we're free to say, do and watch what we please. America isn't a Democracy. You might as well through Artistic Expression and Freedom Of Speech right out the goddamn window.

    America is a Republic.

    We choose who we want to represent us (Republic). Some people in America chose for the FCC, PTC, RIAA, etc. to exist. In some ways, we chose to be censored by letting these egomaniacs trample all over what we elected and chose them to do.

    You can't blame the FCC, PTC, etc. for what they're doing/already did. We're partially to blame.

    Did that make any sense whatsoever?


    EDIT: Haha, oops. I made a mistake.
     
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    Chris Luke

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    True but still it's rediculos how much censorship there is. Another thing that I noticed is censorship is technically in some way shape or form is taking away The Freedom Of Speech. One of Americas constitunial rights that I belive you can't change.
     
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    The government can find ways to abolish it, I'm sure.
     
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    Censorship is complete bullshit, IMO.
     
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    Whimsicality

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    But most of those organizations were already around by the time a lot of us were even born. It's a lot harder to stop a a big, powerful machine then a small one.

    On the bright side though, each generation gets more lax on censorship. So when the parents and grandparents running the FCC die or retire, we have a generation of Eminem, NWA and Korn fans who realize that listening to someone say "#### the cops" doesn't make you run out and torment police men.
     
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    What I'm trying to say is, you cannot defeat censorship. It will always be around in one form or another. It won't just lie down and die one day. There's always going to be someone to take over when the current CEO dies/retires. ALWAYS.

    Unless America somehow does switch to true Democracy, and we can overthrow them, but I don't see that happening in my lifetime.

    By the way: What is this 'small machine' you speak of?
     
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    Whimsicality

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    What I was (uncoherantly) trying to say is that organizations like the FCC are too big to be stopped, where as little ones without power can be.
     
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    Mind giving some examples, mamacita?
     
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    Whimsicality

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    ...and there, you have a point. :chemist:
     
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    *deletes thread*

    :chemist:
     
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    Not in Canada.

    That was the band's choice, and not the label or any music TV channel. They felt 'it wasn't politically correct.'
     
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    Jila

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    yeah, but i highly doubt that was the sole reason for doing so.
     
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    papa roach's last resort - "resort"
    korn's "y'all want a single" - "f*ck" -> "suck" (f*ck could've been removed, but "suck"? why not "screw that"?)
    enimem's "stan" - "trunk", "bleed", "vodka" -> "kool-aid".

    it's getting ridiculous. [/b][/quote]
    People concentrate on the wrong things. There are things alot more dangereos than words. But people who want to get paid for doing their job get to ambicious so they censure words that we use every day, like the word trunk. In ten years they are just gonna put the beats of a song 'cause "everithin is so baaaaad for the children at home" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: (for people who don't get it, I'm sarcastic it this post)
     

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