To choose to be Homosexual is kinda weird. Todd Is right, Why would you choose to be part of the most discriminated minority? I wouldn't say Born with. It'd make more sense if people accepted what sexual orientation they are. But choosing to be is something that'd make not alotta sense if you'd ask me
That's clearly not what he said at all. What Todd means is that, in terms of reproduction, it is counterproductive for an individual of any species to be born with things like disability, mental retardation, sterility, etc. He's definitely not making the statement that homosexuality is an illness. So, yeah, don't put words in his mouth.
No...I did not say that. Louis basically said what I was thinking. I would consider something that reduces quality of life to be an illness, like down syndrome or other diseases. Being gay isn't unhealthy, it doesn't reduce your quality of life, or shorten your lifespan, or anything of that sort. It's not an illness.
He listed illnesses and compared them to homosexuality and I asked them if he thoguht it was an illness too. What's wrong with that? So you don't put words in my mouth. When American Psychiatric Association's removed homosexuality from their list of disorders, 50 something percent was in favour of the decission and 40 something still thought it was an illness. So if the leading experts in that field can't come to a general concensus about the issue, how the hell can I or you or anybody else know for sure if that's an illness or not?
Yes, 'cause everyone who is gay or bisexual or transexual doesn't just happen to be sexually oriented differently than me, but they're sick and I'm not. I'm pretty sure it's not an illness. But, that's my personal viewpoint. With that said, to even say it's an illness is, in my opinion, narrow-minded and stupid.
I don't believe in the "theory" you present, which is apparently situations throughout a person's early to middle life shapes whether they like penis or vagina, or both. What about all of these normal, boring, homosexuals that haven't had a single dark, bad thing happen to them? Some people just naturally swing opposite of the wind, if you get what I mean. You're born with it. You're never going to convince me different. Scenarios in life don't shape sexuality.
Yeah, I figured you were saying as much. I'm not sure what the point of making that comparison is though.
...except they're not. One can say anything, but there's plenty of science behind sexual orientation being something you're born with. Not so much for pedophilia.
But that's exactly what I was telling you, there's not as much science behind it as you think. Just google it and see what real experts say on the issue and not politicians and lobbyists. It's still around 50-50 among doctors and scientists and either there's something so difficult to figure out about homosexuality or one side has some political or whatever other motivation to claim what they are claiming.
No. Paedophilia is widely considered to be a psychiatric disorder. Homosexuality isn't. And even if they do have similar causes, the morals are completely different anyway, so whatever the cause is the comparison is kind of a non-starter. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Homosexuality There's a good article with plenty of links and sources. You're welcome.
Hum no. There are examples of women who would turn 'lesbians' after being raped. I mostly agree with you - that you can be born gay - but I also believe that for some people their sexuality had been influenced by scenarios and relationships they had as a kid, teenager, etc. Another woman being raped, won't turn to women after that, so it's hard to make assumptions about who is right or wrong here.
Because it isn't widely considered to be a disorder? It was, before. The morals are different, of course. However, it would be hypocritical to say one without the other.