I don't think anyone would be offended by that, I figured I should just add that. I don't love religion but I don't think it's all black and white either, not that you were implying you think that. I used to always end up playing devils advocate in the discussions about religion on here haha.
Really now? In this thread? *shakes head* I don't get how this topic just suddenly turned into a "religion VS atheism" thread. That is another discussion altogether. - Back on topic http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/article648985.ece/US-plans-for-koran-burning-condemned-worldwide It pisses me the fuck off that no government body is actually doing anything to prevent this from happening. It's all talk! "Troops will be in danger, tension will increase.. blah blah blah" Why not look at this from a moral standpoint and see that this is a heinous act and it must be stopped at any cost! If after all the talk about establishing peace with the Muslim world, this is what we get, I really don't know what to say.
Whether we like it or not, they have the Constitutional right to do it. I think what they're doing is disgusting, but they're allowed to do it.
Exactly what I was about to say. As wrong and gross as it is, it's an expression that doesn't actually infringe upon the rights of those who follow the religion of Islam. It is extremely offensive and disgusting, but under the law it is technically legal. There's nothing we can do about that.
I didn't realize it was this thread I posted it in. I think I just dropped all thought when I saw purple Louis. What I came in here to say ORIGINALLY was that I honestly think shit like this is going to lead up to another Holocaust. The hate for Muslims in this country is fucking disgusting and unwarranted.
I never knew running a church meant to instigate terror? But I seriously doubt this is going to cause a huge uproar unless a LOT of other people actually join in. If they don't want us Muslim people to react to them in a terroristic manner then they shouldn't give us a reason to. And when I say "us" I don't mean to say that I'm an extremist.
Sounds like it doesn't it? Minus, while I agree with you and fear that people's intolerance will become the catalyst for much physical pain and suffering if shit like this continues, I have to say that Timothy has won this thread.
Well that right there just goes to show how fucked the judiciary system is. It's fucked up to the point where we can't even do anything to stop such a heinous act, when we're fully aware of how wrong it is. It's sad really when Louis said "there's nothing we can do about it", other than just sit back and watch a whole religion get spit on.
The main problem with that theory, is that its just the one sect of Christianity that is participating, and the Holy Bible is common scripture through all of them, so even though you may be teaching the nondenominational sect a thing about how wrong it is to burn the Quran (which is wrong by all means) it will offend the other sects that had nothing to do with burning the Quran in the first place, as the Evangelicals are trying to stop the nondenominational church from doing so.
Yes, it's wrong, heinous, disgusting, and any other adjectives you can use to describe it, but that comes along with the territory of freedom of speech. They're allowed to burn Korans, the God Hates Fags assholes are allowed to protest at soldiers' funerals, and neo-Nazis are allowed to hold a rally outside of a synagogue. But at the same time, those same first amendment rights allow us to protest the war in Iraq or publish op-eds in newspapers criticizing the government's action. So legally, no, there's nothing that can be done. The US government can't just make up laws to stop this. But if anyone in America wants to burn a pile of bibles and piss on the ashes, they're free to do so. It would be childish, and it would make them no better than this group of assholes, but legally, that's OK.
The law is made to protect the intelligent and well-intentioned speech of the population but with that some of the hurtful and insensitive speech is protected too. It's a price we pay to have our freedom. All we can do is try to keep others informed and enlighten those around us.
And of course they turn their messages of hate into profit, selling t-shirts and mugs. As corrupt as they come.
I am disappointed. To burn any religious scripture as a protest is wrong. Also wrong to advocate one is greater than the other. Just as flag burning - burning religious scriptures are wrong, regardless what religion it is. I just hope the people who attend that church turn away into another church that doesn't promote extremist qualities.
It's not that this is going to cause people to join in. It's a sign of things to come. First it's a 'mosque' in New York being protest. Next it's burning of holy texts. What's next? people will start bombing mosques in our own cou- OH WAIT. That already happened. Things like this only lead to an angry populace turning into a lynch mob. And it's only a matter of time before someone decides to take advantage of that mob mentality and things get really bad.