The burqa controversy

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    Luke

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    Because that's thier religion and they care strongly about it their beliefs. You're not technically not supposed to depict an image of the Christian God either (although family guy have seen to that lol).
     
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    That's what the problem is, you just cannot have a strong belief that I, as a non-Muslim, can't depict Muhhamed, It defies logic.
     
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    People will always just pick and choose what rules to go by, however strongly they may care. :)
     
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    Look, when it comes down to it, I think Islam as a relgion does need to chill out a little and not act so victimised. But we in the West and more progressive and establish countries need to chill out towards them aswell by not allowing ourselves to be taken in by the fear towards them which is why it's important not to fuel any fires that are going to affect relations between Islam and the rest of the world such as this.
     
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    Remember, a woman can choose to wear a Burqa in a country like Australia. And yes, I would wear a Burqa if I was a muslim woman, I wouldn't want guys checking my tits out that I didn't know. There are a lot of other things I don't agree with in the muslim lifestyle but I do believe we are not a communist/dictatorship and that everybody has a right to their own lifestyle.

    The thing is, is that with every religion comes extremists. A majority should not be judged by the minority. If we can't depict Muhammad, they can't depict Jesus either, it works both ways. Even if I go to Lakemba, Sydney Muslim central, I don't get hated because I am not Muslim, if I go to Leichardt, Italian central, I'm not hated because I'm not Italian. Unlike many Islamic countries like Egypt, we're a multicultural country who by defination and lifestyle means there is no one culture to be followed.

    Muslims are hard on traditions and some families are lineat, like any other family. Only 3% of Australia is made up from Muslims so I don't grasp the idea that "they are invading us" very well.
     
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    I completely agree with everything you've said.


    Egypt? :lol:
     
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    This.
     
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    All your choice babe, just one thing, I'm sure that any religious woman wouldn't like that, but that doesn't mean you need to wear a radical thing like a burqa...
     
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    Egypt is thriving with muslims because of their connections to Saudi Arabia.
     
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    It's obvious you don't know shit about Egypt, it's actually one of the better Islamic countries to live in.
     
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    And another point I would like to point out like I said to my other half tonight, yes Muslim men are known to beat and rape women, so how is that any different to a white Christian/Catholic man beating and raping his own wife? It's suddenly ten times worse if a Muslim man does it? And it's suddenly worse if a Muslim terrorist is out there and yet no one really gives a shit on the nationals news when a white man holds up a bank, killing civilians?! The thing is in a country like Australia, we forbid stonings as it's inhumane as opposed to countries like Saudi Arabia, we're they are heavily for it. Women do get treated like second class citizens (or so that's the generalisations) in countries like this, so how is that so bad compared to China's human rights violation? I know it sounds like I'm heavily for Muslims in this argument but I was bought up as an optimistic person when it comes to other religions as I have travelled abroad this country before. I don't know any exact passage from their book of worship but I do know that this law they are trying to pass will not pass to ban the Barqa.

    It's still a thriving Islamic country like France.
     
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    What? Now you're comparing Egypt where more than 95% of the population is Muslim with France where there's maybe 5-10%
     
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    :lol:
     
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    I'm not sure if I'm that keen on them myself, but at the same time I don't think this story stands up very well as a case against them. It's not exactly as though it wouldn't have been easy for the person who did this to get ahold of an actual balaclava or hockey mask or whatever, instead of a veil.
     
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    Apparently enough for a call to ban to the Barqa in France as well.
     
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    I thought you said baclava :lol:

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    We don't like masked people in public. Even though it's part of a religion, it's impossible to see who's underneath it, as I said before; security goes before religion. And in my opinion, every country should ban the burqa in public places.
     
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    "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve niether" - Ben Franklin

    Should we ban anyone from wearing a fancy dress mask in public then? :lol:
     
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    But it's their choice, not any politician's choice, and by not allowing them, takes their right to freedom away. Australia is a free country, we should keep it that way. This is me in the shoes of a muslim woman after the law has passed: I can't go outside to do the simpliest of things because I've chosen to never reveal my body to the eyes of strangers.

    Out of curiousity, is anyone on LPA muslim?
     
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    I'm not sure what that is but it looks alright :lol:
     

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