Is It The Parent's Fault or The Musician's?

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    Gloomy Mushroom

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    I was having a discussion with some people on facebook today and it was over Lady Gaga's new film clip, Alejandro which is rather raunchy.

    So the question comes down, if you're kid/s start acting like the type of music they hear, is it the parent's fault for not controlling what they listen to or it's the type of music to blame?

    I agree that it's the parent's fault because they have the ability to turn the channel over whenever something explicit comes on.
     
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    I agree with you Sarah.
    They have the control over what they watch/listen to so you can't blame the musician for them starting to do that stuff when they can just stop it.
     
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    At the end of the day sex sells. Parents need to know that in this day and age it's impossible to flick through music channels without seeing a raunchy music video so they need to educate their children on the matter. I wouldn't say that simply changing the channel is the solution because if anything that only sparks more curiosity and I personally feel that causes more problems. Perhaps if parents educated their children better, that videos by Lady Gaga, Britney Spears etc. are nothing more than marketing gimmicks, then perhaps we wouldn't have kids dressing like hookers and putting out before they understand what the hell sex and sex appeal is all about.

    So no, I don't think it's a musicians fault.
     
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    I guess in these three posts we can all agree that it isn't the musicians and instead the parents fault.
     
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    It's the kids fault for not having any indication what is right or wrong. Music is music. It should be seen that way. If it controls/changes how you act then your a weakminded fool. You can't blame the parent's because with the internet you can find just about anything. and why should the musician's change their art form
     
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    None of the options you selected.

    It's not the parents fault for letting their kids watching videos. If they can't watch it on TV, they will do on the internet. And if they watch it on the internet, it's the parents responsibility to take measurements (no internet, talk with their children about what they've seen). Children should have the ability to watch whatever they want to a certain age. 15 year old kids can watch porn but not 4-8 years old. 9 year olds can watch Lady GaGa and so can 4 year olds. 4 year olds don't even know the word "sex".
     
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    Well you can't say that when the kid is 4, they don't really know what anything is.
     
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    Then whats the damage. Its not like the 4 year old is going to be sleeping with people
     
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    It's sad that sex sells. It's also sad that musicians focus so much on sex because it sells.

    It's also sad that parents don't know when the kids are exposed to it as well. It should be the point for the parents to explain the Birds and the Bees, or whatever, talk. Whatever happened to parents teaching Sex Ed?

    In my opinion, when your in middle school (Age: Around 12-14) you should be getting the talk.

    Thus, it is both the Parents and the Musicians fault.
     
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    You do make a point.
     
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    What came first, the music or the misery?
     
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    Music.
     
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    I generally say parents. And also, the kids themselves. But a lot of it is not so much anyone's "fault".

    We live in a society where the internet and television are available almost everywhere, and where parents are too busy to watch their kids 24/7. Thusly children will be exposed to this in most cases, if they have any desire at all to be so (and forbidding them won't make them seek it out any less).

    Musicians do know that what they make will likely be seen by children, but I think the "so what?" attitude is the best to have. Children dumb and impressionable and unsupervised enough to try having bondage sex in a nun uniform because Lady Gaga did it are susceptible to so many things I would label them a lost cause.

    And, at the end of the day, I think good art is worth a few indirectly killed or otherwise negatively impacted kids.
     
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    I guess even if they dress like GaGa or whatever while their 4, they will soon learn that it wasn't as cool as they thought.
     
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    I really don't think a 4 year old is going to run away and join their local burlesque club, or even buy their own clothing. I think the issue would from people 10-14 or so.
     
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    Snap!
     
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    No one's said that though. The point is that children are nonetheless impressionable, and there probably aren't too many who are born with a developed sense of morals and principles. If you were an exceptional case then good for you, but expecting that from them is a little bit asinine.
     
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    I just feel that the media and parents shouldn't be placed to blame for how their kids act. Thats just me. Not saying kids shouldn't be disciplined because they should but to assume that its the parent's fault is unfair in particular with teens
     
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    But teens do know right from wrong....children don't.
     
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    That is Dependant on their upbringing.

    :) For the most part lol
     

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