President Barack Obama/World News & Issues Discussion

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  1. El Muerto

    El Muerto LPA Super Member LPA Super Member

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    Did you not read what I've written a couple of posts above? In Iraq throwing shoes at somebody is considered and act of disrespect. The Iraqi people were all throwing shoes at Saddam's statue when they were destroying it, and I bet they could've found plenty of better things to throw and not go home with bare feet. Next time better do some research about other cultures instead of comparing somebody to a monkey..
     
  2. Linja

    Linja Good. Be magnanimous. Über Member

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    I've got to say, Pres. Obama's choice for who's going to deliver his invocation at the inauguration is pretty disappointing.

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  3. Chris

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    You win.

    Everyone thinks that he was trying to kill Bush, while in fact he was just showing his disrespect.

    "George W. Bush murdered by a shoe". Right.
     
  4. Christopher

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    I read your post. Obviously, it's disrespectful to throw anything. I think, it's a very barbaric way of showing disrespect, that's why I "compared" the man to a monkey.

    The man, supposedly, is a journalist, well, he was a journalist, at least. If that's how you express yourself as a journalist then there's something seriously wrong.
     
  5. El Muerto

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    C'mon are we really going to talk about what's right and wrong in today's world? On the scale of wrong from 1-100, Bush would probably be somewhere at 99 and this journalist would get a solid 5.

    The bottom line is that I don't give a damn about some goddamn shoes thrown at Bush, and I would even be glad if one of them had hit him. Maybe then he'd realize that his not completely untouchable. God, I don't even know how that man sleeps at night knowing that almost the whole world hates him..
     
  6. Chris.

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    Wow, so this is definitely worth arguing about :rolleyes:
     
  7. El Muerto

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    I agree, the more we talk about this the more important we make it seem, so I won't say a word about it anymore :)
     
  8. Trumtram

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    when i read this the following immediatly came to my mind:

    "And if it comes to murder
    Don't tell and we won't ask you how
    You sleep at night when the lights go out
    And you're all alone
    With all the ghosts of lesser humans
    Whose lives you've spilt to suit your own"
     
  9. Tim

    Tim My perversion power is accumulating LPA Super Member

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    I agree. Warren is a bad choice.
     
  10. esaul17

    esaul17 antichrist

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    Is it a big deal a shoe was thrown at Bush? Not really.
    Is it concerning at how long the Secret Service took to take him down? Yes.
    Was throwing the shoe a moronic thing to do? Yes.
    Is throwing a shoe, or most other things at someone, a primitive thing to do? Yes.
    Does the fact that it is their culture change this? No.
     
  11. Chris

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    The guy stood up and thew 2 shoes in 2 or 3 seconds. Do you really expect them to react within a second?

    There was no secret service around the guy in a ratius of 10 ft. Another journalist took him down. Everyone was well searched so there was no risk that someone would take a gun and shoot him up, thats why they were so far away.
     
  12. esaul17

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    I would more expect someone to get between him and Bush. You can't have agents around everyone at a meeting, but you can have them around the president. Someone should have been able to intersect at least the second shoe. Within a second after a threat, someone should be in the line of fire between the president and his assailant.
     
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    Saying throwing things is barbaric and primitive is a bit much, really.
     
  14. El Muerto

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    *throws a shoe at you*
     
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    No it isn't. If you disagree with someone to can rationally speak to them, or otherwise voice your opinion. You don't throw crap at them. The former is a civilized discourse. The latter simply juvenile.

    *Dodges shoe*
     
  16. Dean

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    Don't be so prissy, and try to have some perspective. I'm sure there are more barbaric and primitive occurences in the world, especially considering at least one of the parties involved in this particular incident. Next I'll have someone trying to tell me that the height of Joey Barton's indecency was his mooning of Everton fans, when he has been the perpetrator of at least three incidents that were essentially assaults, among other things.
     
  17. esaul17

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    I am not saying this is the MOST primitive thing done by either party. I am just saying that if we put things on a spectrum of primitive---moderate---civilized then it falls moreso to the left than the right.

    Things don't have to be the most extremely primitive things in existence to be called primitive.
     
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    What if you get the chance to finally meet the person who fucked up your country and killed your family? Would you still talk to him in a civilized way?
     
  19. El Muerto

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    Yeah so I guess then that killing innocent people is ok, but only as long as it is not primitive and involves state-of-the-art technology.
     
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