President Barack Obama/World News & Issues Discussion

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  1. esaul17

    esaul17 antichrist

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    I think people generally hate Bush, and find it easy to point out his inability to speak well opposed to making an actual case against him.
     
  2. Todd

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    A little humor...

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  3. Theazninvasion68

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    The debate!

    Any watchers?
     
  4. Todd

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    Yes. Barack kicked ass.

    And this sums up the candidates pretty well:
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  5. Theazninvasion68

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    Nope.

    I think they both did equally well, except McCain was kinda out there.

    And Obama's forign policy is posh
     
  6. Chris.

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    Personally, I feel Obama did slightly better. By the way McCain spoke, you could kind of tell he was backed into a corner and calling Obama "That one" was pretty unprofessional.
     
  7. Casual D

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    Personally I feel "That One" will haunt him between now and the next debate, possibly till the end of the election. It was childish, crass and unprofessional and yesterday just proved why Obama is a way better choice for president. His answers were concise, and his demeanor was calm and collected when McCain laid the pressure on him. McCain on the other hand, nervously laughed several times and even got visibly erratic/irritated at one point in the debate.

    The McCainbots in here of course will figure out anyway to suggest Obama isn't prepared for the presidency, but I'm sorry. I'd rather have a president who keeps his cool and doesn't blow his top...then an erratic, at times senile (yes I went there) person who has an infamous temper and sings 'bomb iran' at a political rally.

    Thanks but no thanks.

    "That One"/"Joe Six Pack" 2008!
     
  8. Chris.

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    Not to mention McCain went and criticized Obama for wanting to get Bin Laden in Pakistan and he turns around and says it needs to be done. Unless I heard that wrong, Maybe he IS going senile :lol:
     
  9. Casual D

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    Yeah, I thought that was a little...off.

    But the best thing was that Obama not only reversed it on McCain with his reply, but he also made it clear that he wants to "kill Bin Laden". You can't get any more clear than that.
     
  10. Todd

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    Sarah Palin said in her interview with Couric that we should go into Pakistan. That's when McCain went on CBS with her the next day to babysit and complain about the liberal media and their gotcha questions.
     
  11. Chris.

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    I hate my friend sometimes. She thinks she's a rebel when she posts bulletins on myspace about how both candidates are the devil and it's the end of the world if Obama gets elected. Then she says to vote for who you feel is better. It doesn't make sense.
     
  12. Casual D

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    I personally love it when people say they're not going to vote. The worst part of that is that 'non-voters', from what I've averaged by recent polling...make up about 6% of the voting electorate this fall. That's 6% that could drastically alter the results of the election if these people actually voted.

    That's 6% that could mean the difference between a slight victory, and a landslide.

    I just look at these people, and I'm like "do you realize how different the 2004 elections might have played out if people who didn't vote, actually voted? Do you want that to happen again?" but they just don't care.

    Make no mistake (I will bring this up now so it cannot be used against me later), I voted for George Bush in 2004. It is a decision I am neither happy with, nor proud of because I realize now how different the country would've been had we elected John Kerry into office. The race wasn't a landslide, and that 6% may have made John Kerry win had they actually got off their ass and did something.

    I'm not willing to make that mistake again. To me, not having switched my registration over to Democrat to vote for Obama in the primaries, and instead deciding to vote for McCain would've been that mistake.

    Say what you like, and tell me Obama isn't the right choice...but I've made my decision and I'm sticking to it. And no tried and true Fox News talking point, or smear against his character is going to change that.
     
  13. Chris.

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    Of course, everyone should vote (if they are well informed)...but why would you tell them one candidate is going to end the world and then tell them to vote for who they feel is better? It just seems contradictory to me.
     
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    Yeah it's like calling one candidate the anti-christ and then saying to vote for who you think is better.

    But no, that's not trying to sway voters at all. It's completely balanced!
     
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    The debate...hmmm. They both annoyed me and they both made me a little upset and cringe at times too. I give no winner for this one which translates to Obama winning of course because he can do no wrong. The town hall format definitely favored McCain but he didnt take advantage of it although, as someone on another MB pointed out, he talked to people not at people as Obama subtly did. I thought Obama had a couple of chances to hit a grand slam and just let them go by. For instance, when he was referring to JFK wanting to reach the moon in 10 years just as he wishes to make us energy independent in 10 years but he said it in such a way that was just matter of fact and not inspiring. It makes me think he knows he is going to win this election and is just going through the motions. That is very disappointing if that is the case.

    I give McCain credit for having fight left but the odds are stacked against him. Its a shame that not matter who gets elected, not much will change when we wake up on January 21, 2009. Except, it could be a whole lot worse if the majority of Congress is Democrat.
     
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    Some humor:

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    What a good impersonation.
     
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    Barney Frank just admitted on the Lou Dobbs show that he is partially to blame for the current mortgage and financial crisis. :eek:


    Good for him to owning up to it. That's one down and many more to go.
     
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    Do all Ron Paul supporters believe that the only thing between him and becoming president is some sort of new world order-type conspiracy?
     
  19. Chris.

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    From my experiences, yes. :lol:
     



  20. That was ONE INSTANCE. Under normal circumstances, McCain would always refer to Obama as "Senator Obama". Where as Obama reffers to McCain as "he" or "John" 80% of the time.

    Who's the disrespectful/unprofessional one here?

    Also, any one who supports Social Security at this point in the game is a crackpot.

    Sorry Obama fans, but I'm voting McCain this election.
     

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