President Barack Obama/World News & Issues Discussion

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  1. Casual D

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    And this is exactly why McCain and his cronies should not be allowed to be elected into office. McCain and the Republicans have used the 9/11 tragedy; as a scare tactic to coerce the American people into voting for them, rather than focus on the issues and what they intend to do to actually prevent this from ever happening again.

    Never before in our nation's history (not even with Bush back in 2004) has a national tragedy been used so extensively (and offensively) as a means from political gain. The tribute video which was shown at the RNC last week was disgusting, tasteless, horrifying and not a tribute in the slightest.

    Instead it was political propaganda, and no matter what you think of Obama? If you vote for 4-8 more years of this shit (McCain), and McCain ends up winning? I will blame you directly for the hell we'll have to endure with him as our president.

    WARNING. THE FOLLOWING VIDEO BELOW CONTAINS GRAPHIC SCENES, AND SHOULD NOT BE VIEWED BY THOSE STILL EMOTIONALLY AFFECTED BY 9/11:

    [youtube]LDx80bnFrVs[/youtube]
     
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    Awful. Though it is past us, the presented way was to convey fear, purposely, and to use Blood, Death and Tragedy to gain votes. Votes that are not deserved to be for a fear-monger, but for votes to be elected out of Republican Nominee.

    I agree. Not only was I horrified and Hugely Offended ( for the means of political gain. ) but also tired of it. I'm tired of having to be Fear-mongered and Lied to. Cheny and Bush reigned through their lies, and we took 8 years of it and said okay? No! Though I'm not 100% for Obama, Out of the possible people left that i know, McCain > Obama, until...Well, let's hope Obama doesn't do this either and EVER.
     
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    I dont necessarily agree with it either but I do see the point because the media is never going to report how we have not been attacked since 9/11. That would be giving Bush credit which would show journalistic intentions of being fair since they only attack him at every turn. Why is it we only hear the doom and gloom? No bombs taking down embassies, no holes in our warships, kept the economy from tanking in spite of inheriting a bad one and 9/11. And is it only a coincidence that Gustav wasnt another Katrina because of a Republican governor?

    The last I checked when last we had a Dem President we had been the subject of several terrorist attacks and we sent troops overseas (in Kosovo, and they are still there FYI) to prevent an evil dictator from further ethnic cleansing. Not to mention the cut and run from Somalia after not fully supporting them to get their job done....but hmmmm.....that's okay I guess. What will you say if NK nukes Japan or Iran nukes Israel and some de facto WWIII is sparked after Obama is elected?

    There is a chance McCain could be really good if he is elected. There is a chance *gasp* that Obama could suck as Prez. Right now.....I dont believe either one of them can do anything to help us.

    He has got to be the worst journalist in all of the major networks. Why else did he get demoted recently? If he was a real journalist then why he is concerned for his personal safety? Perhaps his blatant left wing agenda reporting style may have something to do with it. Why is he threatening to quit if he doesnt get to be the new Meet the Press host? Simple answer to all of them, the guy is an asshat.
     
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    Frankie Boyle on Sarah Palin being a creationist:

    "If you're going to shut out part of reality why choose dinosaurs? They're cool!"

    :lol:
     
  5. El Muerto

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    I think it's hilarious she's claiming our war is a "task from God" while we're fighting another group of people who claim their war is a "task from Allah" (in essentials).

    There's absolutely no difference, except for the fact the U.S. doesn't suicide-bomb mosques and churches.
     
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    Suicide bombers = hi-tech stealth bombers
     
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    To add to that list: public markets, cars, ships, buildings and we dont have our younger children and women do it either. Nor do we perform public beheadings.

    I see your point about the phrasing being similar but that is where the similarities end. No religious or political leader is brainwashing us to believe it is God's will to kill the infidels in the Middle East. Its fun to try to it tie together and I'm sure all the liberal pundits are wetting themselves but its a go-nowhere story. Just like all the BS about Obama being a Muslim and those photos of him in Kenya. Its just nothing.
     
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    No, no, no, that's not what I was saying. :lol: I'm saying she's claiming our side of the war is fighting because it's a "task from God" when that's essentially what the other side is doing as well, thus contradicting herself.
     
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    I don't think she is really contradicting herself. She is saying she is fighting a war as a task from her true God, while they are fighting a war as a task from their false God I think.
     
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    Well, are there really "false" God(s) to anyone?
     
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    That wouldn't really rule it out, as that could be what they're saying. Not to mention Christianity and Islam are supposed to have the same God.

    I hope this thread doesn't spawn another religious debate in any case.
     
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    Islam and Christianity are the same God. Really!

    I'm in vote we just pull out the middle-east, and stop with international political matters, aside helping people get some food and water in some countries.
     
  14. Dean

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    Yes. All Abrahamic religions, or at least the bigger ones (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Rastafari and one or two others) do. But this is OT.

    I agree with Dusan anyway as Russia is concerned. I don't want to sound condescending towards either but I hope both candidates realise that war with Russia is something that should probably be avoided at all costs.
     
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    At this point the United States should avoid any war. The war in Iraq has torn this country apart economically. Our government would be better off looking at our own problems than other countries' problems.

    @ Anyone else —
    I'm aware I didn't word what I wrote earlier correctly. She's more or less giving Islamic extremists justification for their actions by claiming our war is a task from the Christian God, because their war, in their eyes and beliefs, is a task from Allah. There's no difference in this at all, if you understand what I'm trying to say.
     
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    This.

    Seriously, the more we dive in, the worse we are!

    Has anyone noticed?
     
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    Yeah, I completely understood you. It's really funny how sometimes politicians don't think when they make statements.
     
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    That would appear to be the case, but I was talking more on a global scale myself. People can say what they want about terrorism but being at war/occupying somewhere like Afghanistan or Iraq is still on a much smaller scale than being at war with Russia would probably be, and I honestly hope that whoever is elected, or even Bush during the time he has left, don't make any rash decisions in regards to that.
     
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    I posted this in RT but I figured I would post it here as well. For a laugh:

    [youtube]9nMuR1TFq1s[/youtube]

    Tina Fey as Sarah Palin. Gold.

    (hopefully youtube won't remove this)
     
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    How can you not say he's right though? McCain is using 9/11 as advertising, and he claims to know how to find Osama but refuses to divulge how to do so, which would get an ordinary citizen arrested and shipped to Guantanamo Bay as a terrorist in a heartbeat. That completely sums up everything Keith says in that video, and I really don't see how you can argue that it isn't true.

    And maybe, just MAYBE, he's so pissed off and acting the way he is because he's a liberal journalist trying to succeed on a horribly conservative-biased mainstream news network.
     
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