The same Biden who said Obama isnt ready last year? click Obama endorsed by the Communist Party What did she lie about? Here's a biased blog about Obama for ya How again is Obama so great again? Hmmm..
Palin received more votes for the governor in Alaska than Biden did throughout the presidential election. About Obama having this all might experience, he only served 143 working days in the Senate, while Palin served as a governor for 2 years and mayor for another two years. Sounds more experienced to me.
Biden dropped out of the presidential primary after the Iowa caucus, so of course he didn't get more votes. I don't see how that's even a relevant point. And Barack Obama was elected to the Illinois state senate in 1996 and has held elected office since then. His 12 years of experience trumps Sarah Palin's 4. Besides, anyone who's done so much as spend a day on a beach in Cancun has more foreign policy experience than Sarah Palin.
Oh my god I give up. The political (un)intelligence of some people on this board just astounds me. I can not sit here and understand how some people can support Bush, McCain and Palin as if they are squeaky clean politicians and act like there is nothing wrong with this country right now. Go ahead and call me a mindless liberal (it seems that is the Republicans only line of defense lately) but we are where we are right now because of 8 years of terrible decisions. This is one of the first wars in american history (if not the first) in which the economy has plummeted instead of gone up. In the past, when the country would go to war...the economy would benefit from it due to the fact new jobs (mostly factory work) were created to fill the supply and demand of our military. Instead the price of oil is skyrocketing, countless people are being laid off of work and its proving harder and harder just to get by. And all of this is directly thanks to George Bush himself. Why? Because we went to war when we weren't supposed to. Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 at all, and the WMDs that supposedly started this war in the first place never existed, as they were never found and even Saddam stated (before he died) that he had been bluffing for years to keep his standing in the world. So Bush started a war based on faulty intelligence and now 5-6 years later we're still in it, causing our economy to continually plummet. Check out this illustration created only two years ago: http://www.lafn.org/politics/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart_2006.gif Incredible huh? The GOP tries to paint the democrats as tax and spend liberals and yet it seems that everytime a Republican has come into office...a new record has been set in regards to the national debt. A democrat always covers his expenses and brings it down by the end of his term, and yet a republican lets it skyrocket. And yet you guys want to elect a man who vows to continue Bush's failed economic policy and give more tax cuts to big oil corporations, instead of to working class families? McCain continually lies on Obama's tax record and accuses him of taxing families, when in reality Obama would only raise taxes on those who make more than 250k a year not less. And honestly if you make that much (like John McCain who has SEVEN houses) you can afford to give a little back. Its ridiculous. I sit here, in anger over how bad our country has become, and then I see people supporting a man who's going to be no different than Bush and who will make this country worse. It just astounds me. Can't anybody see how bad we're doing right now? Don't you want CHANGE instead of more of the same? Think about it...if Palin supported Obama's energy plan and some of his policies before she became McCain's vp, than Obama must be doing something right. Perhaps you need to stop focusing on Obama's teleprompter stumbles and actually take a listen to what he's offering this country. Hell at least he doesn't stare off into space like McCain does when reading a prompter. You'd swear the man was a robot by watching his speeches at times. Oh and by the way, if you're one of the Republicans who claims Obama offers no specifics? Well here's about 66 pages of specifics just for you: http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf (It says 33 in Adobe, but the real book which I have is about 66. The PDF shows two pages at a time). Happy reading!
Is being anti-Bush all this election is about? I mean if Bozo the Clown was the Democratic nominee, he would be supported because he isnt Bush or a Republican. This election is just about anti-Bush when you break it down. People are bitter and understandably so but is everything really Bush's fault? Is McCain the better candidate, no. Is Obama that much better? Hardly. That is how bad our system is broken that we will choose, to quote many people, the lesser of two evils in this election. All we have been told is change this, change that, change is coming, change is here, change Washington, change the world, etc etc etc etc. Yet, 3 of the 4 people on the major party tickets are established in Washington. How can someone that has an unproven legislative record, wont even disclose his college transcripts (remember 2004 when Kerry had better grades than Bush?) and yet, well....he speaks well, be such a better candidate? His VP candidate and the Republican nominee have ~60+ years combined time in the Senate. Where is the bright spot here because all I see is DC politics as usual no matter who wins. Two years ago the Dems promised change and they won back the majority in Congress. What has changed? Absolutely nothing except that they have a lower approval rating than even Bush. I dont like either candidate so I am truly undecided at the moment. I'm waiting for one of the candidates to tell me something I havent heard before and convince me they are the better choice to lead this country. What I will not do is blindly throw up allegiance to one of them because I hate Bush or hate the Dems. Maybe its because I'm older and less susceptible to all the f*ck Bush rhetoric or maybe I'm just waiting to be inspired. I understand its "cool" to hate Bush and if that's your calling, so be it but dont frame the problems of this country from just the last 8 years because that is being shortsighted.
What's made me giggle is that Obama sorted of shyed away from an opportunity to collor Palin about her child. And now Palin takes every opportunity to hit at Obama in every which way possible. Laughable, really how it seems to boil down to slanging matches.
It's because Obama is being more respectable. He issued a FIRM statement saying that people's families should be off limits by the media during this election, stating his mother was 18 when she had him...all the while basically protecting Palin's child. What does Palin do? Continue the same old play book of attacking Obama every chance she gets, sometimes blatantly lying about his record just like McCain. What happened to the 'respectable' campaign McCain promised? It seems the minute it was discovered that Obama was the nominee the mudslinging began. I was happy that at the DNC Obama finally brought out the gloves. Before it was all about taking the higher ground, now it's obvious that if McCain wants a bloody battle, it's exactly what he's gonna get.
Politics are always dirty. Everyone can say that it will be a clean election, but it will NEVER happen, because people always disagree etc. And lpboarder makes an excellent point. This election IS about being anti-Bush or anti-dem/liberal. And yes, I'm the same way, besides the fact that I don't care for McCain, but I definitely don't support Obama. People just want change and Obama promises that at every turn, and it's change from Bush and changefrom the republican party, so it automatically means vote for Obama. And seriously, Derek, why did you bring up Obama's teleprompter reading, again? I've just said it to say, 'hey, he's not much better at speaking than Bush' because when Bush did it, it was a big deal. After that, I've explained that that's why I bring it up, not to prove his un-intelligence, but just to make a point. It seems that you like to bring that up just to say that that's all I know about Obama, is that he isn't a great public speaker and I haven't heard what he's offering.
There is a big difference between attacking someone personally and attacking someone professionally. I can guarantee Obama and Biden are going to take every opportunity to hit Palin about her experience after the RNC. Which uh....is what Palin has been hitting at Obama this week. They (Obama/Biden) couldnt do it during the DNC because McCain's VP wasnt known yet. Not sure what news some folks have been reading on here but its Palin who has taken the brunt of the personal/family attacks.
What about the countless false lies about Obama's religion, the attacks on his wife, the criticism of his kids being put in the spotlight, and the racist undertones that plagued some the media attacks over the past year and half? Obama went through personal attacks already. Now its Palin's turn. If she couldn't handle the media attention she should've never accepted the offer. I'm sorry to say that I have no sympathy for her. It's part of the job to be criticized.
I'm not disagreeing that politicians should not be immune to the spotlight and criticism that goes along with it. However, their families should be and that is where the media has gotten it all wrong on both Obama and Palin. I do disagree with the undertone that Obama is "fighting clean" when he was laying out the same kind of language about McCain and his record last week in Denver. Its a 2 way street and it is the VP's job to go on the attack for the #1 on the ticket. Then again....she doesnt know what the VP's job is anyway.
Criticism of Bush is relevant to the end that, if you don't like the job he's done, you'd obviously want someone you'd think would do better this time. I don't see what's wrong with it.
Every election is about criticizing someone else. That's all there is to it. That's how this system's always worked and that's how it's always going to work until the government's overthrown and some bloke proclaims himself King of the United States.
Obama voted for Patriot Act? http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00029 Imo.. ? I thought he was Against it? Maybe i'm forgetting stuff or mixing up stuff.
Well you never know with Obama. He can never make up his mind. He hasn't passed along many of the bills in the state senate because he doesn't want people to get mad at him. He thinks, "well, if I say 'yes' I'll upset this group of people, and if I answer 'no' I'll upset this group of people." So instead he votes 'present.' http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html "In the end, Mr. Obama chose neither to vote for nor against the bill. He voted “present,” effectively sidestepping the issue, an option he invoked nearly 130 times as a state senator."