Apple OS Discussion

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    The Emptiness Machine

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    Does Apple have an OS that you can buy and install on any recent PC other than Apple computers? If not, why not?

    I mean, wouldn't that make them more money and a higher profit? You can install windows and Linux on basically anything recent. You can purchase Windows and download Linux and install them without hardly any trouble. I think that it would be a good idea for Apple to make a multi-hardware version of it's OS, like remove a couple MAC features, and then replace them with different ones.

    I also think it's kind of a greedy idea but if you want to be at the absolute top of computer business you'd do really extreme things. This is not a pro apple post, nor is it an anti-apple post. (Though apple is not my cup of tea) I'm just wondering why Mac OS is the only OS that you can't really easily install on today's PCs.

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    I think Apple's operating systems are built specifically for Apple machines. It'd make no sense for them to take out the Mac features because that would defeat the entire purpose of the OS to begin with. It'd be like if Windows were built only for PCs. For them to tear it down just for Macs would defeat the purpose.

    That's why Mac OSs are so much better than Windows OSs. They're built specifically for the desktop or notebook they're running on. So there's no hardware requirement problems usually. To build a Mac OS needing "minimum hardware requirements" while taking out all the Mac-only features would really just defeat the purpose of the OS as a whole.
     
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    Well not taking out the mac features and and finding a way to emulate them on a PC would do. I mean, MAC OS is the only OS that I know of that can't be ran on everything. And if it's such a good OS why wouldn't it be on PC? Maybe I'm just thinking like an idiot today.
     
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    Therein lies my point. To emulate those Mac-only features on a PC, you'd need higher hardware requirements than you would for the Mac itself (I'm assuming; don't stab me in the mouth if I'm wrong, people). Therefore it'd be a waste and not very cost-efficient. And if you didn't include any of the Mac-specific features, it'd just be an empty shell of the OS it's supposed to be.
     
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    Yeah I see your point. But, what's so great about apple hardware? I'm pretty stupid when it comes to that.
     
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    Point is, Mac doesn't want anyone other than Mac users to have their software. It wouldn't be that hard to make a Mac OS work on a PC. What was hard, and why it took so long, was to make Windows work on a Mac. It took forever.
    Mac is also mainly graphically based, for "ease of use", and Windows is made the way it is for "ease of use". However, Mac uses software that's not compatible with PC hardware, and likewise the other way around. It's why I prefer PCs. You can custom build, and you don't have to decipher which graphic means what. Put a Mac in front of me, and I'm stuck.

    That made no sense to anyone but me, no? :lol:
     
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    Nothing's great about it other than the fact that all the hardware and software are always compatible.
     
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    It wouldn't make more money for them because it forces people to use their expensive hardware.

    And yes, it is possible to use OSX on non-Apple machines -- OSX86.
     
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    i like to game and customize my pc's, so windows is obvious. i was a just a casual pc user, i'd go mac
     
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    The hardware in an Intel Mac is for all intents and purposes, identical to the hardware you'll find in a regular PC. That's why Windows and Linux will run on a Mac, and (with a bit of hacking) OSX will run on a PC. The difference, and what makes OSX so stable and easy to setup and use, is Macs uses a small, limited set of manufacturers and models of each piece of hardware, so drivers can be included in the OS and optimized to work for a specific piece of hardware. Apple knows exactly which hardware they're developing for; they know the CPU that's being used, the motherboard that's being used, sound card, graphics card, etc. When I install OSX on my computer, it automatically detects what type of Mac I have (and thus, knows what hardware I have) and installs the drivers for that. So once the install is complete, I can jump right in and start using it. Windows has to deal with an infinite combination of hardware which is why you have to deal with drivers and crap like that, and then if you have an unstable driver, it'll crash.
     
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    So having a wide range of hardware choices (which creates competition/lower prices) is a bad thing?
     
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    That's not what I said.
     
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    Personally I don't like MAC's, but that's just me. I'd have Linux (Ubuntu) if I could have any.
    I don't think it would make Apple that much more profit if they did release a compatible OS.

    However instead I've just got Windows XP and moded the shit out of it:

    [thumb]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/TsunDwo/mydesktopforlpa2.jpg[/thumb]
     
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    ^ How did you get the icons down there? I've been wanting to do that for ages!
     
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    What program are you using to mod? Lightstep? Windowsblinds?


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    On another offtopic note, One of the small reasons I like linux (using linux mint on my pc) is because you can use a whole lot of different GUI's. Gnome is my current one though.
     
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    Well, on another note, PCs come shipped with most (if not all) the needed drivers (and I have never encountered bad/unstable drivers out of the box), just like Macs do. When you install windows, it detects all the hardware you have, and installs the necessary drivers. Plus, Macs have to deal with third party drivers all the time, for printers, etc. So what happens when a friend's printer stops working in OSX, and then the updated driver doesn't work? (anecdote) The printer doesn't work. Just like it would on a PC.

    www.objectdock.com
     
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    i also see the apple os as an alternative for people that are fed up with windows and viruses
     
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    Completely forgot I had posted in here lol

    Yeah I'm using windowsblinds, with a dynax theme.

    Cartman - Yeah, like JNudda said, It's Objectdock.

    Also you can't see my desktop when i use Yodm3d, It's makes my desktop revolve like a cube so I actually have four desktops.
    e.g:
    iTunes on one side.
    Msn on the other side.
    Movies on another and Mozilla on the other one.

    I don't actually do that, it was just an example lol
     
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    I'm so getting this software! Thanks Tom/Nudda :)
     
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    The good thing about linux is that you don't have to mod it to have those features, well with linux Mint it comes preinstalled. ;)
     

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