AHAHA I totally forgot Uhmmm. Put YZ inbetween TDS and Broken. It's good but you can only listen to it fully for a few times.
The songs on Ghosts are good, but they're still just instrumentals. At the moment: 1. Year Zero 2. Pretty Hate Machine 3. The Fragile 4. With Teeth 5. Still 6. Broken 7. The Downward Spiral 8. Ghosts I-IV
I assume he hates them, which is why he put sewage water on his list. I dont know how I would order the albums. I do know that With Teeth/The Fragile/Year Zero are on top. Ghosts is down a little, since it's just a bunch of instrumentals. It's still amazing though.
I don't see how everyone can rate With_Teeth up so high, to me it was just utter garbage. Which I guess is just opinion. I didn't know so many people actually thought it was good though. I won't lie I thought it was great when it first came out, but since then it's been on a steady decline.
1. The Fragile 2. Still 3. The Downward Spiral 4. Year Zero 5. With_Teeth 6. PHM 7. Broken 8. Ghosts As much as I enjoyed it, Trents vocals and lyrics are ridiculously important to NIN, and it simply won't have any longevity without them.
1. The Fragile. 2. The Downward Spiral. 3. Pretty Hate Machine. 4. Year Zero. 5. Still. 6. With Teeth. 7. Broken. 8. Ghosts Ghosts isn't that good. I simply CANNOT believe people are rating it over The Fragile and The Downward Spiral. I always tend to over rate new albums 'cause i'm really into them but this one simply doesn't allow it. Average as a cheese sandwich. It's not original, it's not groudbreaking, it's not worth a wank. Midway through Ghosts II it just feels like it's repeating itself I reckon. Not a fan of the robotic sounding drums. The only bright spark as it goes on is the piano but if I wanted to hear some beautiful piano work i'd go listen to Debussy. It's not shit by any means, I like it, but it has grown off me. I liked it more at first, probably to do with the excitement. But now I listen to it without any hype it's just average.
1. The Downward Spiral 2. Broken 3. Pretty Hate Machine 4. The Fragile 5. With Teeth 6. Year Zero I wouldn't compare Ghosts to any of the above. I think it was much more of an experiment for Trent than a regular release. My heart aches every time I see year zero/ with teeth topping the list =\
To each their own, I guess. I've found it to be perfect soundtrack music for driving, which I do quite a lot. So you better believe that people are rating it over TF and TDS... not everyone's tastes are the same as yours. I frankly started getting sick of the NIN that released TF and TDS... I can't even get through either albums all the way through even if I tried. YZ, Still, and Ghosts are the only albums I can stomach fully. And Phantom Duck: of course it's an experiment... most instrumental albums are. But it's a regular release nonetheless... why else would he give it it's own Halo? Be putting so much effort into the release? Or even announce follow-ups to it before he even knew the depth of its success? This is the beginning of new NIN, I think we better get used to this side of Trent.
Not knocking your opinion, but jeez, Ghosts is at least above PHM. Yeah lyrics are important, but I'd rather have instrumental than the lyrics of PHM. I dare you, just read the lyrics without the music. It's just...BUDOFASD;F. God the lyrics are so bad I can't even describe them without breaking out in caps-lock gibberish
What're you talking about? The lyrics in PHM are just fabulous. What would you do without lyrics like these?: i'm drunk. and right now i'm so in love with you. and i don't want to think too much about what we should or shouldn't do. lay my hands on Heaven and the sun and the moon and the stars. while the devil wants to fuck me in the back of his car.
Not really, many of my favourite bands/ records/ songs are exclusively instrumental (Pelican, for example). Trent's voice and lyrics always played an equally major role in NIN's music, that's why I feel something's missing from this one. The Fragile was also full of instrumentals, but they were mostly interludes. Ghosts is OK for me, but still, I believe it's just something Trent did in order to figure out what he's going to do next, without a record label and all. And to be honest, I think he's being too productive lately. You can't expect anyone to write and record 36 tracks on the spot within ten weeks, with all of the songs being amazing, as NIN albums used to be. Of course it's a matter of taste and I'm glad people like Ghosts and support NIN. I firmly believe, though, that when the hype dies down, it's not going to be considered as much a masterpiece as the first four releases. When I saw NIN live last summer, there were about 60,000 people literally crying when Trent sang "Hurt" a capella as an encore. No number of untitled instrumental songs will do that for me. This is not a matter of success of whatever, it's about being able to listen to the music when it's all that's left, and get emotionally tied to it. Of course it's just me, I'm not expecting anyone to have the same taste, but it's all kinda unfair to albums I loved to death, that took Trent 5 years of more to write, in the midst of depression and all types of addictions. Shit, this post turned out less macho that my image dictates =P Edit: what are you two talking about, "Head Like a Hole" aaand you lose =P
It's a great album - not by NIN standards, but nevertheless a great album. It just sounds so dated. And not in a great way either. I seriously hope that Trent decides to either recreate the album or at least remaster it. Maybe it'll sound amazing in 5.1.
Pretty Hate Machine is a good album. I love a lot of the songs on it. I'd probably say: TF TDS PHM WT YZ I don't know Still or Broken enough to judge, and don't care for instrumentals so never listened to Ghosts. As cheesy as they were, I still have a special place in my heart for the lyrics in "That's What I Get" .