I wanted to see if anyone else noticed this little error in Faint so I don't feel like I'm going crazy. On the album there is an electronic keyboard note inserted during the bridge, it goes like this. "Now (pling) hear me out now, you're gonna listen (pling) to me like it or not, right now (pling) hear me out now, you're gonna listen (pling)..." But when they play it live Joe puts it in the wrong spot, more like "Now hear me out now, you're gonna listen to me like it or not (pling)..." Not that it really effects the song but I wanted to see if anyone else noticed. Joe used to get it right but now he does it wrong.
It seems that Joe's only been doing it that way starting with this most recent touring cycle. If you listen to it on most 2003-2004 recordings, it's the same as it is on the album.
Yeah, it's just kinda pissing me off. Come on Joe haha. And sometimes you can hardly hear his keys and sometimes they just overpower everything. Get it together LP haha
I think Joe is just too bored these days xD I mean poor Joe, for some songs he gets to push buttons for a couple of minutes, for one or two he gets to scratch and the rest of the time he loads up the backing music (that they can't play live) or he adds echo to Chester's voice. Notice how hes gone from acting all crazy to a almnost lifeless dummy. I was going to say and looking bored but he always does
he will quit the band for sure i guess that hes bored of doing the same thing over the years a few years ago he used to have fun, and with MTM he wasnt really part of tha album.
Could he possibly be doing it on purpose? LP has made live mistakes before and then repeated them in subsequent shows on purpose (like The guitar feedback in the second verse of Faint), As far as Joe leaving the band, thats just ridiculous. LP allows him to do the things he's always dreamed of (like directing and opening up Suru). So he took a back seat on one album... big deal.
IMO Linkin Park is very interesting and intriguing. Kudos for him knowing all he does. i dont know half as much as him, and my friends are impressed when i bust out lil facts like that.
Maybe Joe wasn't having fun just scratching in time with the guitar in the bridge of pretty much every song?
i'll be honest, I'm very worried. I saw the PR show in Hartford on the 26th and he looked very very bored. Mike and Chester were all over the place. Brad, Rob and Phoenix were doing their thing, but still looked like they were having fun; but Joe kind of just stood there, pushed a couple keys every now and then and a LOT of the time, he had his back to the crowd. he was lookin behind the set and just standing there and sometimes smiling/laughing with someone off stage. kind of worried me and I had the same idea, that may leave some day, which I hope never happens.
It will be a loss if he leaves but I won't cry. If LP doesn't give him more options next album he's most likely gone but it's not like losing Chester or Mike. Given Up and No More Sorrow sound good with no elements
Dude that's like saying 'It'd suck if I lost a spleen, but at least it's not like losing a lung.' You underestimate the importance of Mr. Hahn. Let's see, Papercut, Points of Authority, In The End, any intros they might do, most all of Meteora, all the electronica samples in Minutes To Midnight, all require Joe. But hey, at least Given Up and No More Sorrow will sound good, right?
The PR show that was streamed live Joe looked a bit better and more involved. But everywhere else he's pretty much as 2xPutt described.
Simple as this: If you throw away Joe, you throw away a good deal of the creative aspect of Linkin Park. EDIT: And as for Faint, Joe isn't stupid. It's not a mistake. He's doing it because, in their opinion, it probably sounds better. He could listen to the original anytime and 'fix' it.
i noticed the same thing with hahn at PNC on the 29th i appreciate hahn with cure for the itch, session, and especially a place for my head and other songs that would not be the same without him
shame on some of you for saying he could even THINK of quitting. Joe Hahn's irreplaceable! Plus in all the behind the scenes I've seen (LPTV, Making of M2M/WID) he seems to really be enjoying being in this band.