Are people that talk about suicide just drama queens or they are just asking for help? Okay here are some facts for you: Suicide took the lives of 29,199 Americans in 1999.1 More people die from suicide than from homicide. In 1999, there were 1.7 times as many suicides as homicides.1 Overall, suicide is the 11th leading cause of death for all Americans, and is the third leading cause of death for young people aged 15-24.1 Males are four times more likely to die from suicide than are females.1 However, females are more likely to attempt suicide than are males.2 1999, white males accounted for 72% of all suicides. Together, white males and white females accounted for over 90% of all suicides.1 However, during the period from 1979-1992, suicide rates for Native Americans (a category that includes American Indians and Alaska Natives) were about 1.5 times the national rates. There was a disproportionate number of suicides among young male Native Americans during this period, as males 15-24 Suicide rates are generally higher than the national average in the western states and lower in the eastern and Midwestern states.4 Nearly 3 of every 5 suicides in 1999 (57%) were committed with a firearm. I personally think that people who rant on about suicide, are just wanting help. I know there are people on my life, whom I know they are just wanting attention, but I can "filter" them out for myself.
As someone who has considered suicide every day for the most part of 5 years, I've come to realize that yes, we're selfish. Suicide as an act is easing the pain that you feel inside, but as an ACTION causes pain for everyone around you who cares for you.
Im sure in this world with this growing trend of the stereo-type 'emo' alot of people use that along with their image for show, and its sick
I remember when I made a thread about suicide a long time ago. For some, it's an act. They want attention. For others, it's serious. I could get into a big conversation about it. You'll have to find me some other day to express my opinion. Some people just need to realize that it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Bingo and yeah all 'emo's' want is the attention so they say they cut themselves so people notice them for the wrong reasons.
A few years ago I used to consider suicide alot but then I thought to myself what's the point? Suicide is just an easy way out of life and although life can seem fucking impossible to comprehend at times you've just gotta take the shit it throws at you and push it out of your mind because all it will do is upset the people who care about you.
Take this juicy morsel for a spin: It seems to me that when someone actually commits suicide, nobody heard them mention it. Therefore, does that mean everyone who talks about it is a attention seeker? If you ask me, for the most part, yes.
It could also be that those who talk about it are talked OUT of it. And those, who either have no one to talk to, or no desire to speak of it, are just as serious as those who share their pain, but after that pain is shared it alleviates some of it. And, once alleviated, they can go on. Also, consider this. If you commit suicide, you end your pain and cause pain to everyone that cares about you. But, if you are intensely suffering and stay alive as to not hurt those who care for you, it is those people being selfish and asking you to suffer for them. Everyone is selfish, and you just have to do what is right for yourself. Everyone always does that they think will make them most happy, or least unhappy. Now, I will admit that some people talk of suicide for attention, but if you start to ignore those who really need help because of that stereotype, then you could lose someone important to you. And if someone truly asked you for help, and you turned them down, could you really live with yourself?
Exactly. I also think that people who tell others they are suicidal are doing it for attention, I knew a girl (she's my ex - girlfreind now, partialy because I was sick of her desire for attention) like that and it bugged the shit out of me.
Funny, a year ago today i was sat seconds away from it. In my mind i had loads of problems and it seemed that everytime that i could sort one out i had another two come along. I had lost my job, i had been dumped by my ex, i was failling at college, my dad had a brain tumer nd might not have made it through the night, i was so down. The thing is i would never have taken myself as someone who would ever consider a thing like that, as people have said before if you do take your own life then you leave the cleaning up to somebody else, your never know what would happen to you when you pull through, if i had ended that night then i would never have gotten with my girlfriend who was one of my friends that got me through the experiance, i wouldnt be at university right now. At the end of the day i broke down, told my parents talked to friends about it. The thing is that if u take ur life when ur at the bottom of the bottle then that is all you will know, you wont know wot it feels like to be able to fight your way back to the top of life. I think that people that talk about it for credit i.e 'emo' are the selfish ones, because for people that are really after help its like the boy who cried wolf
Well, people who do suicide are usually the ones who don't say they will. And pretty much that's not a cry for help, since there's not much use for it when you're dead.
I might offend people with this but oh well. The whole emo kid I cut myself blah blah blah thing isn't suicidal, it's being a pansy and following the influence of television, others, music, etc. If you wanted to die you'd just do it, it's not even selfish to cut yourself, it's pathetic. If you need attention that much that you need to cause phyical harm to get it, you're really digging yourself a hole fast. Those who want help will get it but you can't help people that just want to die, they are the only ones who can help themselves. Sure you can fill them with a medication cocktail but that only masks their internal battle and will make it worse when it comes down to then being taken off. It's in both ways selfish for a suicide to happen. They were selfish for thinking about their pain opposed to what they'd cause, but also for those who think the person was for not thinking of them opposed to their pain. Then again selfishness is in the eye of the beholder.
Some people cut themselves and don't go showing everyone. Self mutilation is an escape from reality, albeit a destructive one. It is not always just for attention or following a fad. And I do think that, when someone is near suicidal, it would be difficult to change that for them. Maybe getting a girlfriend or something of that sort might help, but as a friend or family member, your help can commonly be restricted. However, that doesn't mean they shouldn't try. If a friend comes to you thinking of suicide and you make no effort to stop them, that could push them further in that direction (even if what you say doesn't make them feel better, saying nothing could make things far worse). People are so fed up with the latest "emo" trend that they have become blind to the fact that there are actual suicides, it could happen to someone close to you, and as a friend, lover, or family member, you should do your best to prevent these and help these people get through this hard time in life. You could seriously regret choosing to do otherwise.
Thinking about suicide does not make a person a selfish attention whore. Contemplating suicide can be a cover to a much darker set of problems, a thought of desperation brought on by someone feeling tired of dealing with those certain problems in the back of their head all the time. Basically if a person fakes their happiness and is genuinely depressed, who are you to say they are an attention whore? They could be alone and have problems that they feel only THEY can really understand. Lighten up folks.
i think the whole "selfish whore" thing only comes about when people without real problems try to act like they do have them simply for the sake of enjoying the attention or because to them being pathetic is "cool" or something in the like. I've seen this kind of behaviour in my school and yeah sometimes it really does divert our attention away from people that really need help and sometimes it the person you least expect...