Yeah, this might be the case. But if it really would be that banal it would take away the mystery. People thinking about the thought processes behind that title, what meaning it might have and what it meant personally for the band, and in the end it just comes down to a lazy demo title. Maybe that's why LP have never explained that title... But I think it might be the case that they've scrapped A.06 (maybe the lyrics didn't quite work out), but at the same time they wrote the other songs and kinda let some ideas of A.06 flow into these songs. Judging from the fact that the long version of A.06 is a fairly complete song (at least in terms of length), it seems kinda unlikely that it evolved into Figure.09. Thinking about your comment about the demo titles, my theory would have been that it originated from the same "branch" of demos (A.06 -> ... -> F.09), like you already hinted at. Anyway, I hope they will someday explain this, in the case they still know the answer after all that time.
I, too, have long wondered about the significance of Figure.09 as a title, since it has, from what I can tell, ZERO relation to the actual song. It really does stick out among all the "normal" titles given to the other songs. I was just thinking that someone could ask a band member about Figure.09 during the next online chat session (whenever that will be). At the end of the day, I just like to think that the title was so different that LP just rolled with it, rather than changing the title to something that makes sense
Yes please, somone please ask this! I mean, like 90% of LP's songs use lyric-titles, while the rest have titles which somehow emphasize the meaning of the song. But Figure.09? Dunno.
It was a working title that they didn't feel like changing. Like Faint, or Papercut, or Points of Authority. Really isn't anything more than that.
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Yeah, PoA is actually a meaningful title. The demo titles show that they at least invested some time in coming up with a good name. It's not a name they threw down and decided to keep. It relates to the song. A song title can relate to the song without being directly lifted from the lyrics... @Broman
The point I have not missed, he was just wrong on that. Points of Authority WAS confirmed to be a working title that stuck, so I had nothing more to say on that matter. Not to mention he pretty much asked "Isn't this the progression of the name", when it is in fact not the progression of the name.
Points of Authority was still a working title that stuck. "Oh No" was basically just a beat Mike came up with prior to anything resembling a song being built around it (the same thing happened with Sad > Super Xero > By Myself). All of those beat demos we've gotten on LPU CDs over the years (Sad, Oh No, Stick and Move, Coal, and the 3 "Pods") were probably just Mike MPC beats. Figure.09 was a working title that stuck but I always felt like the "giving up a part of me" line in the chorus was somewhat of an abstract reference to the title, because if you take out a part of a figure 8, you end up with a 9 instead. A.06 was its own thing and even had lyrics to some extent. Brad confirmed in an LPU chat years ago that the clip of Chester singing "Just drag it out, remember..." on Making of Meteora was from A.06.
Ah, thanks. So maybe Figure.09 was really a working title at first, just like A.06 was. And damn, now I have to hear the version of A.06 with vocals, I like A.06 so much. Watching the Making Of again, I just realized one can hear "Program" in there. Back when I watched it the last time that was just a random sound snippet to me. But I have question as a non-native English speaker: What exactly do you mean with "a figure 8"?
I have heard of the term "Figure 8" being used in ice skating, though it probably has other meanings/uses. I just think of the number 8 by default. Also, the history of LP's discography is so incredibly deep when looking at all these demos, alternate takes, unreleased songs, etc.
Figure 8's are common things. It's basically just an eight when applied to things like skating, racing, etc.
Anyone else think that my<dsmbr can totally pass for a christmas song? I thought about it once and all the sounds in it sound exactly what I would expect from LP making a Christmas song, like they sound very bell-like and that soft mellow piano sound you hear a lot in Christmas ballads. I tend to only listen to it in December now haha. I wonder if the Christmas sound was intentional at all.
I consider Waiting for the End to be a christmas song also. The bell being looped all throughout the song gives you that atmosphere like it's christmas or something. considering the title waiting for the end of the year to come, sort of. But I was thinking also for 15 years, the band didn't make a christmas single which basically most of the artists do nowadays.