Breaking Bad

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  1. Niklas

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    This. All the bad shit that`s happened to Jesse because of Walt, all the lies, schemes, deaths must`ve had a huge impact on him. So I don`t think it`s too far stretched that he`s on this path now. Great Episode btw.
     
  2. Squish Mitten

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    This. I don't think it was all of a sudden. He's been down in the dumps ever since they killed that kid, and with Mike's death, he finally realized the cost at which he got all that money.
     
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  3. travz21

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    I don't get why he wouldn't give the money to his little brother. Or drop it off at the front door of a church or something. Throwing it all willy nilly and losing it all for no reason is basically like all those people died just so he could go insane and have nobody benefit from all the suffering. Now the pigs will take all the money and it's like nothing happened. Except a bunch of people died.

    At least with Walt he has a lot to show for all the destruction he's caused. Even Skylar knows she in no way can lose that money or else nothing good will come from all the bad. With Jesse, everything he did is now purely destruction. He reminds me of the Joker in an unintentional way. He kills and ruins the lives of all these people for millions of dollars, and then basically burns it. The only difference is they are different kinds of insane. Jesse doesn't enjoy or realize it.
     
  4. Agent

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    I don't expect Jesse to plan out how to pass on his money so smoothly like that... that's just not his character. He's always been a bit gullible and dysfunctional. He's not as calculated as Walt is. And he 'burned' the money because he doesn't want anything to do with it anymore... he thinks giving it to people would at least compensate for the immense amount of guilt that's working within him.
     
  5. ernieball003

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    Jesse just purely does not care anymore.
     
  6. Xerø 21

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    He also tried to give it to the people he thought deserved it most.
     
  7. Mark

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    Well remember, Jesse doesn't know if Mike is dead. He suspects it, but his reasoning isn't all that good.
     
  8. Xerø 21

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    I'm sure whether or not his reasoning is good doesn't matter to Jesse himself though.
     
  9. The Emptiness Machine

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    Remember Jesse talking to Walt whilst he was in the hospital bed after Hank beat him up? He threatened to ruin Walt and take everything he loves away. It could be that his threat is about to finally come to fruition. He has a lot of reasons to hate Walt, and a lot of suspicions as well as reasons he doesn't even know about. It's going to be interesting to see what is going to happen.
     
  10. travz21

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    He threatened to ruin Hank, not Walt. I'm pretty sure. But he didn't because it was his get out of jail free card.
     
  11. Jayhov

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    Really big spoiler at 2:40 if anyone wants to see..

    [video=youtube;rl5WKjjgCVw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl5WKjjgCVw[/video]
     
  12. The Emptiness Machine

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    He did threaten Hank but he also threatened Walt. [video=youtube;5-2Wb1BbDuM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-2Wb1BbDuM[/video]
     
  13. travz21

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    Wtf. I don't remember that part at all. All I remember is this:

    [youtube]LKeL3Mu5AKo[/youtube]
     
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  14. ZachLP

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    I just re-watched both of the new episodes (I recorded them) and I must say, I'm not sure if the ending will be as great as I envisioned. I thought the ending was supposed to be very dark and bloody and full of action, that is what Vince G. and the cast have said in the past. I'm not sure if the ending will be the way I thought the ending would be in my mind. Jesse hasn't really been involved in these last two episodes which kind of sucks because I love Jesse's character. The whole Skyler defending Walt is cool and all, but that just seems a little boring. If when Lydia had Todd and them kill off Declan and his crew is what the ''dark'' part of the end if supposed to be like, count me out. I understand that this show is on AMC and not on a special channel like HBO or Showtime, but come on. These are the FINAL episodes, I want some dark shit. I think it will be cool when Walt goes on the run and is without his family, but I have a feeling that it will only last maybe 1 or 2 episodes. I hate how the past two episodes have just been ''building up'' the end, I wanted each episode to be epic. We now have 6 left. I have a feeling it will be a cheesy ending. Walt's family will go with Hank and Marie, Walt will have to go on the run, and eventually he will return for some shoot out (probably Todd's crew) and either die or win, and then be put in jail. Meh. Go darker Breaking Bad.
     
  15. Xerø 21

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    We'll see. Buried was definitely a "set up" episode. Which isn't to say it wasn't good, but when you only have 8 episodes left, using an entire episode to set up plot lines seems like a bit of wasted potential? But maybe the next 6 will be jam-packed.

    I was sad to see Declan get killed. I was really hoping to see him be a part of the final run. It seemed like they set him up to be a sort of important character, only to get gunned down.
     
  16. ZachLP

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    Honestly, at times this show can come off cheesy or unrealistic. All the ''darkest'' moments of the show were kind of cheesy honestly, except for a few (like Jane's death). I think how Gus died was a bit cheesy, he wouldn't have got up and walked out with half of his face completely blown off, he would have been dead instantly and blown apart somewhere in the room just like Tyrus was. The biggest complaint I have so far of the entire show is how Hank found out that Walt is Heisenberg. The more I think about it, he finds Leaves Of Grass and connects it to Walt. Ok. But then, he doesn't confront him, until he's in his garage and he punches him. Wow. A punch. I seriously hope this isn't the ''dark'' end of Breaking Bad. We didn't even get to see the shootout with Declan, that was kind of lame. I feel like the show is afraid to show dark things because they are on regular cable (AMC). Shows like Dexter definitely are much darker than Breaking Bad, and maybe it's because they aren't on regular cable. I also hate how they keep leaving out huge gaps. For example, months pass and we never see it, etc. I just hope that the shootout with the M-80 isn't the final episode... All the dark things in Breaking Bad have been done before in other TV shows and those other TV shows have went way darker.
     
  17. Xerø 21

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    As far as the cheesy/unrealisticness, I actually read a good article about that recently.

    http://www.vulture.com/2013/08/matt-zoller-seitz-revisits-breaking-bad-season-3.html

    The author argues that starting in season three, or the end of season two with the plane crash, Breaking Bad started incorporating some absurdist/surrealist qualities to it. Stuff like the plane crash, the teddy bear eye, the cousins, the fly, Gus's death, etc. aren't necessarily meant to be totally taken at face value (ha pun). It's metaphorical and a bit stylized.

    Which makes sense, because the show has always mixed a little bit of different genres. Some western, some noir, some surrealism.
     
  18. ZachLP

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    Yeah, I guess. I thought Season 1 and Season 2 were both pretty dark, at the dark moments. But Season 3, 4 and now 5, haven't had that same kind of darkness to them. I honestly was just hoping for the final 8 to be dark and epic. Maybe the writers and Vince wanted to take a different approach to the ending. I feel a bit let down because I am such a fan of this show (I own all seasons on DVD), but I'll still watch them all to see how it all unfolds. Although, with only 6 episodes left now, I'm not sure if the ending will be satisfactory to me.
     
  19. Blackee Dammet

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    "Dark" does't necessarily mean "good", and Dexter being complete shit for the past couple of years should be evidence of that.
     
  20. travz21

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    I don't know. The flash forwards seem pretty damn dark to me. Walt did just kill Mike like 3 episodes ago. They killed a kid a few before that. He slaughtered a bunch of prison inmates. And it's all ramping up to get out of really control now. Maybe it doesn't feel dark enough because Jesse is acting like such a vagina and lactating 24/7.
     

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