MTV: Chester Discusses New Single "Burn It Down"

*Warning: Long-winded post ahead. Everything is IMO. *
Fair point yes! However, I think creativity is an independent concept from the concept of whether a piece of music sounds "good" or "bad". Of course, creativity is usually a good thing, and CAN result in good music. And it CAN be something we choose to judge our music on. However, to say that something is or is not creative, is not synonymous with saying "this music sounds good" or "this music sounds bad". You could create something truly creative, truly imaginative, truly groundbreaking, truly unique. None of these concepts in and of themselves actually guarantees that the end result sounds "good". If it's polka-rap, that could be incredibly creative, but not nessicarily good.

Likewise, you might argue that the similarities between "Pushing Me Away" and "Numb" shows a lack of creativity, but this in and of itself does not dictate that each of these individual songs is objectively bad. If both existed independently from each other in alternative universes (wtf am I talking about...), they would be judged purely on their own merits. It's only when we compare the two songs that suddenly the issue of creativity/similarity enters our criteria for judging them.

For the record, this is purely hypothetical, I'm neither attacking nor defending these songs (the mash-up above sounds sorta cool though). I'm not sure if there's a smilie to represent my self-indulgent attempt at philosophy here, so I'll end with this

 

It's a bad thing because the person I was replying to said that NO LINKIN PARK SONGS ARE THE SAME. So the fact that these two do proves him and/or her wrong. Which is bad for them. It's great for me because yet again, I am right.

 

No offence but imo, that's what's so wrong with most of today's commercial music.

Most of today's (commercial) artists = Well look at that! People like that genre... Y'know what, let's make that kind of music. In fact, let's do the exact same thing and not be creative at all. People will buy it anyways.

I prefer more creative music over yet another Pitbull song that sounds exactly like his previous *cough* songs. Just to give an extreme example

I'm sure you didn't mean it like that though

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Really good post.

 

But just because they sound the same doesnt mean they are terrible songs, personally i do not like numb, numb is the only song on meteora that i dont like
pushing me away is alright

 

No Linkin Park songs are the same.
If they had like a song called Blackout and another song called Blackout that is completely the same as the first one, we'd be able to say that they are the same. Because they are.
Once again, no Linkin Park songs are the same. Because they're not.

 

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Really. That's all I got.

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Taken literally, yes, that's true. But the real criticism is that some of Linkin Parks songs sound too similar to one another.

 

True, but nobody said that they were bad songs. LP is just being criticized for not being creative.

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is not a good argument. If "Burn It Down" had the chorus "I burn it down, light a fire just to torch shit away" with electronics instead of guitars, who would be like "Whoa! Haven't heard this shit before!"?

 

Similar is different than the Same

 

Right. We're getting into semantics here, which is what people usually do when they have nothing of real merit to say (not that I'm accusing anyone of that). Let's focus on the implications, not on poor word choice.

 

Come on, I'm sure there isn't anyone that actually believes that two Linkin Park songs sounds exactly 100% the same.

And that point is totally irrelevant because once, again, there isn't anyone that would think that but when two songs sound very similar to each other, it is thus a valid opinion to state that they sound the same. Only an idiot would try to argue against that reality.

And just to be totally ridiculous, say two people bought laptops, one was black and one was blue but the interiors were exactly the same. Now, the laptops aren't 100% the same because one is black and one is blue but it is still absolutely acceptable to label them as the same laptop, the same brand, etc. They are not the same but are very similar, but close enough to be labeled the same.

And thus, two songs sounding too similar to one another can be labeled as sounding the same.

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Sorry for the redundant post, but I just don't get why such an obvious statement was made, "Similar is different than the same", it's a horrible argument in this case, in my opinion.

Edited for typos.

 

If a song is the same, then it literally is second by second the same. If a song is similar to another, then the structure of the song is similar to another song, like Pushing Me Away is a bit similar to Numb. That's that.

 

Let's just say if ATS was their debut album and came out in 2000 instead of HT, during the "nu metal era" LP wouldnt be HUGE at all today what if Ht and Meteora never existed today? Lp would have prob broken up by now, with Meteora LP gained alot of fans and i mean ALOT.

If everyone would just watch this to see what i'm talking about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4Pl...SWHOVy1yw89UQvpA&index=221&feature=plpp_video

 

I dislike this thread

People keep hating on Meteora

 

People hate Meteora, if you have a problem with that, well that's your problem as much as it's my problem that there are people that actually like it.

Bottom line, get over it.

 

People shouldn't hate it though, it's almost a perfect album, its very good

 

Y'all r hii. hibrid thery is obvisly a copie of meteora.