Gay Rights

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    travz21

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    We all know only Christians can infringe on the rights of others when it goes against what they believe. Our country is now somehow built on Christianity when it was never intended that way. And now that it's infected our government, we've had to work to get our rights back that we should never have lost in the first place. Why is it up to them to decide what's right and wrong? If everyone was treated equally, would that be so horrible? Not letting gays marry just shows how flawed we still are as a society and as a government.
     
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    Show a news article and I'll have you be able to say I got schooled.

    Because in that case, I'm quite behind on the news.
     
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    Thread over. Kathy and Todd win.
     
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    For those objecting to gay marriage, could you please kindly point to me where at all in the constitution that it states that marriage should be between a man and a woman? There is absolutely nothing put forth in the constitution (even through later amendments) that suggests marriage is between two people of the opposite sex. This "sanctity of marriage" argument is complete and total BS. As others have pointed out, marriage is a federally binding contract between two consenting adults to enter into marriage. It is NOT a religious convention or strictly for people of religion to do. The current ban on gay marriages is nothing more than a ideology that has been forced upon our country by Christians, who have decided that because of their hard coded religious beliefs, that they are going to violate the rights of a large percent of their constituents. It's bigoted and it's something I thought we would've gotten past as a country after the civil-rights movement of the 1960s.

    By denying people basic human rights because of who they fall in love with, the doubters (and people in congress who made it illegal) are not being any less bigoted then the racist hicks in the 1960s who decided black people shouldn't have the right to marry or have the same rights as white people. This is no different. Gays are the new blacks, and it's disgusting. It's time to forget about your religious beliefs, and give gays the rights they should have. Who cares who they have sex with..marriage should be a HUMAN right!
     
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    Sorry to call out people and call them bigots, but I've found nothing in this thread that offers a justifiable reason (crime rate, etc) as to why Gay Marriage should be illegal. The only reason I've seen is personal opinion, and in the court of law personal opinion is not enough to make a legally binding decision or set the laws in the United States. Apart from making a few people's feathers get ruffled...Gay Marriage is not a danger to humanity. As it stands, we are violating the US Constitution by denying people the right to marry based on who they love. Even if our forefathers didn't have Gays in mind when the constitution was written, times have changed and we should change with them.
     
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    I don't care if they marry or not, but I'll never be for allowing them to adopt children. I wouldn't want to have two dads so I wouldn't want that for anyone else.
     
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    Derek, said basically what I said. It's a Human right. So, Derek, Kathy, Todd, Harlz, Tim, Minus, and Trav are all spot on. :lol:

    That's an extremely stupid way of thinking. What about people who dislike tattoos? Should they not want anyone to get a tattoo just because they dislike them? No.

    It's absurd to even have to give an example or to compare it to anything else, much less a tattoo. But that process is definitely flawed. And wrong.
     
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    You're calling my way of thinking stupid and then you're comparing tattoos to children..

    You can make believe that you live in a perfect world, but you're not and gay people are not widely accepted now and it'll probably be a while until they are, which means that there's 99% chance that a kid who has 2 dads would have his life made a living hell from early childhood. So yeah, if they want to marry, go ahead, but if they don't have a dick and a pussy I don't know where they got the idea that they should have a child.
     
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    Last I checked, a fair share of children raised in gay households are more well-adjusted than those raised in straight families.
     
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    I don't know, last time I checked the other kids didn't wanna play with them.
     
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    So what? Interracial children often have tough childhoods too. Does that mean we shouldn't mix races? Disabled children have it rough as well. What do we do about them?

    If two people want to have a child -- be it through adoption or otherwise -- and they have the means to support the child, who are we to say they can't? Yes, the world is a tough place, but if we make it against the law for homosexuals to have children, we're essentially saying it's acceptable to ostracize them and treat them differently.
     
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    Depends on what type of marriage you are talking about. If you are talking about gay couples getting married under religious laws, like in my religion Islam, then that's a big no no. However, if you mean a civil union under a country's constitutional law then sure... let them get married.
     
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    Last I checked, the research paper that supports this was poorly conducted.

    As in 2-parent household vs single mother/father, being that 2-parent is either gay/straight.

    The fact of the matter is that it didn't conduct the experiment/research well. What it did do well is something quite obvious, that a child raised in a 2-parent household is always better adjusted than a single parent. Regardless whether straight or not.

    I know of a friend whose raised by two moms. Nothing wrong with him actually. He's pretty cool.

    But when he tried dating my best friend? Boy, did he have something about him missing. It wasn't just my best friend and I who noticed. Everyone within the circle knew.

    So I can't vouch from experience. I agree with el muerto. (his first post :lol:)
     
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    THANK YOU. It's about granting human rights, not what someone thinks is tolerable or not. Gay people are human beings are deserve to be treated as such.
     
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    Well, a new study may have been released. I mean, after all, you did hint that you were behind in the news and were then thoroughly schooled.
     
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    Kids from same-sex marriages wouldn't have ANY trouble adapting if people in the world would get off of their soap box and realize that there's absolutely nothing wrong with two people of the same sex having a relationship, getting married and adopting a child. With adopting, these couples are ensuring that a child that was once without loving parents, can grow up in a home where they will be taken care of, loved and given just as good of an upbringing as a same-sex family would provide. Gay people don't make bad parents. It's society that needs to get it's act together and quit ostracizing people for who they decide to be in a relationship with. 50 years ago it was thought to be a sin for a white and black couple to marry, have sex or let alone conceive...and now look at how accepted it is. It became legal, and unlike what the people of the time thought, the world didn't come to an end and we're still here. Hell, our own president is the product of a mixed race relationship.

    So to everyone who is so adamantly against gay marriage/adoption in this thread....tell me this: besides making you completely uncomfortable, what bad will gay marriage bring to the world? Or even more importantly, why do you give such a fuck about what two people of the same sex do in their own household? Let them marry, let them adopt children...it doesn't affect you directly or ruin YOUR life, so you shouldn't care.
     

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