http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/08/arizona.shooting/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1 My condolences go out to U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords's family and the families of the other 5 people that have been killed. I hope this bastard is locked away for a long, long time. How can politics motivate someone to commit murder (assuming that's the motivation)? Edit: It appears there's conflicting reports whether she's actually dead or not. Edit2: Now Doctors are "optimistic" that she will NOT die. Although a full recovery may not be possible. I guess the original reports were based on assumptions.
Rest in peace. My condolences go out to her family, and the families of the others who died. Also I hate to make this political: http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/7/2011/01/c66b788987c541b760ee97e6ce14835c/340x.jpg Look who's on the list, and look at the ad. Gun targets, and a tagline telling people to take a stand. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a crazy Palin supporter. As it stands, that ad is reprehensible and morally irresponsible.
Let's wait a little bit before we start throwing out accusations about whether this person was a "crazy Republican" or whatever. That's kind of disgusting, especially right after someone has been murdered. That's not the important issue here, someone is dead and a family is destroyed.
I'll agree that it may be morally irresponsible of me to jump to such a conclusion without concrete detail on the shooter, and I'll be the first to admit that. It just seems a little coincidental given the ad and the nature of it. Let me be one to say that no matter what the motivation, it's still a completely abominable act. No reason is ever good to kill another human being, and I am disgusted as you are. I can only hope the others that are wounded pull through. I pray for the families of the victims, both dead and alive.
That is the most depressing, undemocratic thing I've seen. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...oman-shot-in-arizona-20110108,0,6020181.story This article says that she was Jewish, though the recent anti-health reform (particularly from Sarah Palin) seems like a bigger influence for death threats against this person. If this is a right wing terrorist act- that would make it pretty high on the hypocritical scale. I also see conflicting sources, some of them admit that her condition is uncertain. It's easier for me to think that she was mislabeled as dead by someone and that news spread around.
For all we know, it was some crazy guy who just wanted his 15 minutes of fame. There's a lot of mental people out there.
@Kathyxx, if I'm not mistaken...it was officially confirmed by police in the town it happened that she has died. It's very unfortunate and completely senseless .
I'm getting most of the info from CNN, and they originally said the same thing, but now they're backing off saying there's conflicting reports. Some reports say she's in surgery as we speak. Also, there's an apparent press conference from the hospital within the hour. But if she was really shot point blank in the head, her odds aren't looking good.
Way to miss my point, Todd. This person very well could have been a crazy Palin mark, but really, who gives a fuck right now? Someone was killed and others are injured, and all you guys can do is point fingers and focus on the agenda of the shooter. Why don't you take a step back from your liberal soapbox and think about the families that are affected by this? It's virtually the same as wondering if a celebrity or a sports icon died of a drug overdose or committed suicide right as the news breaks. There is a time and place for speculation and whatnot, right after the aforementioned murder is definitely not the time. Have a little respect.
Let's just drop this for right now. Me and Todd aren't the only one thinking this is politically motivated (a large number of news outlets are actually referring to the image I posted above as well) but it's not the time to have a political argument. Like you said, now is a time for respect and mourning.
Well, it's not like it JUST happened. It happened 1 or 2 hours ago. As a very distant outsider, there's only so much mourning you can do before you start asking questions. This will be the talk at some point or another, I don't see the big deal in discussing it now.
As I said, above your post...let's agree to drop this for now until more information becomes available (including confirmation of death). Right now it's appropriate to give the families both your thoughts and prayers.
It matters because as far as I can tell, they have not yet caught the suspect and if the shooter is going off of that cunt Sarah Palin's "target list" then there are more lives in danger.
Alright, yeah, whatever, 1 or 2 hours ago means it didn't JUST happen. I'm not even going to argue about any of that, because my point is, yeah, Palin had a banner and told her supporters to take a stand. I'm almost 100% sure she meant for everyone to go out and try to assassinate these people. Palin isn't the problem here, the problem is dumb, passionate political supports that will do anything for the cause. This will all get spun to make Palin look bad (especially on here), when that shouldn't be the issue. This isn't even political to me, it obviously runs deeper than that. But haters gonna hate, and of course the most logical scapegoat will be Sarah Palin because, rawr, she's evil and a stupid bitch.
The suspect was caught and arrested, Todd. He's been apprehended for a while. As for her status, I'm not sure when this was updated last but http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rep-gabrielle-giffords-shot-grocery-store-event/story?id=12571452 says she's alive, and this comes straight from her husband.
Now it looks like a Federal Judge was also among the victims shot, at least according to CNN. They change what's apparently happened every 5 minutes...it also says she is indeed in surgery.
Yeah, it's been confirmed by the hospital that Giffords is alive, in critical condition, and in surgery.