Random Thoughts 24

That is all.

 

Coke floats are fucking delicious.

 

What's up with all the buzzkills in the shoutbox? Jeez.

 

*sigh* I took a look at my family's Facebook profiles today. The ones who live in Washington state. I really kinda miss them right now. I wonder if any of them are thinking about me. It kinda makes me give moving to Florida second thoughts.

 

Dead By Sunrise sounds at least some what fresh after not listening for a good 3+ months

 

Same for me.

Gosh. Okay I'll admit it. Sig test.

 

So I wrote a short comment on a video on facebook, but I can't submit it to the comment since its too long and its too long to submit via message. Soooooo

I'll just post it here. Why not? XD

(it's a msg here because i can't comment on the link. 8000 character max limit.)

hmm. While there is a fair amount of good stuff there, I think theres some problems in there. I'll go chronologically as the video goes.

(I wrote a lot, and if you'd rather skip to the main points, go to the bottom. Otherwise, enjoy. SO this is your TL;DR warning lol)

(also note, while I sound serious, I can't help myself but to not be serious being serious or else I lose my train of thought. )

1) The example isn't something I would take as normal or often-occurring event. Perhaps people have different experiences, but I've only encountered his example (at the beginning, on the train) once. Again later in the video, this event is is probably very rare.

2) "Faith - Instrinsic notion of yielding to human authority." Interesting. I thought Faith was the intrinsic notion that you have a belief system, and that you are confident about it.

3) "Inaccessible to our senses". Truth value of things needn't always be accessibe to senses to affirm the truth. A person's perception of senses (granted that this person is a "normal" in terms of functioning) is different person to person. Therefore, our senses are subject to fallibility, because they are subjective.

4)Parents, children, and childhood. -- If a parent honestly, sincerely, and with full confidence and trust that they ought to be brought to church to begin learning early, could you blame the parent(s) if the child began enjoying (or not enjoying) any certain religion? If a parent honestly, sincerely, and with full confidence and trust that a child ought to be taught Literature, could you blame the parent if the child brought home (Any controversial book) say Huckleberry Finn? Certainly, the outcomes is that the child will begin doing/saying some of these things within both contexts. He is right about Critical thinking faculties. (For males, the age is ~18-25. For females, a little while earlier if I can remember right, I just returned my physio-psych book hahaha. Or its for both ages. Thanks prefrontal cortex.) Egocentricity is an all time high until the early teenage years.

5) The child's impressionable mind - Facts - Yeah. That sounds good. I would certainly hope my child's history teacher isn't lying, or the teacher teaching about anatomy (remember learning about the body, heart and blood at elementary school?? I thought that was awesome stuff !).

But to teach religion without bias is impossible - For if a person has faith, trust and confidence in their particular religion, it is a very long and hard stretch to teach the child about another religion. Granted, yes, give the facts that there are other religions out there that should be respected. But a parent to teach a child about another religion? Only a philosopher who concentrated in religion would be able to do so accurately, precisely, and truthfully.

Perserve inconsistancies - "Without excuse or rationalizations"
How does one perserve inconsistancies? Its a tough thing to do, and it is human nature (sadly) to look away, and to appeal to anything that is confirming of what we think is true. An Example (that doesn't revolve around religion) would be global warming. Those who support will look away from the declining validity and accuracy of temperatures (due to the tools used to measure, technology has improved the accuracy and precision of these tools.) While those who are against it will present the declining validity of previously recorded temperatures and will also present the argument that "well, in a 100-year span..." vs "Well, in a hundred thousand year span...". While perserving inconsistancies is something to make note of, it should be towards older teenagers, not for children.

6) Patterns of Coercion and Reinforcement. - But of course! A child who doesn't have critical thinking faculties cannot rationalize logical things. It's not easy convincing a child using straight logic. Since he began with the psychological relationships, parenting a child to perform a specific behavior requires alittle coercion, and lots of reinforcements. For example, a parent might want to teach a child to begin washing their own clothes. But the child doesn't want to, and though the parent has reasoned logically ("You start to learn how to wash your own clothing because this is a chore you must know how to do well when you grow up." the child might agree or disagree (in either due to acknowledging the parent as wise and honest, which promotes an easier time developing, or a good sign that the child trusts the parents well, or in disagreeance, probably would rather do other things like go play with friends or whatever lol) The parent must use a little Coercion (You have to wash your own clothes or you can't go play later/etc..) and Reinforcement (Oh hey! You started washing your own clothes! Maybe I'll do this weeks load and you can go play earlier/etc..)

And this is applicable to lots of things. Why is it so bad when it happens to land on religion specifically? Hmmm...

Awkward questions and non-participation - You want your child to be active, in anything they do. Right? Whether it be to learn math, or how whatever. Awkward questions do arise. If you answer logically, it should satisfy. If the child continues to ask unique, novel and interesting awkward questions, it might be a sign that the child should be a philosopher or something lol. Often though, a parent has never encountered too many awkward questions in life, so to be asked is.. "Well, don't worry about it johnny. Just keep doing what you are../ Oh hush, don't be so silly Jane." Again, Why is it so bad when it is religion specifically, but okay in all other contexts?

7) Inconsistancies denied - other religions dismissed or demonized is a sign of ignorance. Is it wrong to ever take sides though? Duelism and Monoism is debated in psychology often. There is equal amounts of support for both sides, yet, they will dismiss each other as wrong. Supporters of pro-choice dismiss evidence from the opposition, while supporters of pro-life will demonize evidence from the opposition. (I did a paper on this, and its the strangest thing I've noticed! Seriously hahaha. And I do mean dismiss and demonize quite serosuly, oddly.)


8) doublethink + for/against. I would have a sniff of caution here as things taken out of context is dangerous.

9) Yeah, we're not too likely to accept any Belligerent stranger as an authority figure. Sounds about right hahahaha. Of course, anyone who is a Belligerent stranger who acts and wants another to accept them as an authority figure is bound to receive child-like reponses. Were people suppose to be surprised here? Heck, with as much patience and respect I have, I'd have a word there. In fact, I'd expect very many people to have their input. I'd be surprised by the ones who don't or wouldn't speak up in reply to a belligerent stranger.

10) Worship.. "Probably themselves." I've done enough philosophy and read enough to probably conclude that yeah.. Though, they are likely to be doing so unknowingly/unconsciously. Not in a bad way, Just pointing out that.

11) Humble and arrogance - The adult ground is, in my opinion, better termed as self-confident. TA covers the Either-or fallacy (Humble OR arrogance) and interjects with a third option. I don't agree with this 100%, but rather that the black and white (or, haha, in the vide, white and black) the the sides be shades of black and shades of white, since that would make more sense logically. What is weird is that we all are bound to slip into either or. (Weird, though it is a logical fallacy to use one.) We're other predominately humble, or predominately Arrogant. We are either 51% of one or the other, and we switch back and forth sometimes. In the end, he presents a false dilemma.

12) Christian A...B... - Why is it that a person is being ostentatious? Not very kind of them! A person is entitled to their opinion, and can share it if they choose to. But yes, "Sweeeping statements, generalizations" is also a fallacy. Any logical person would know "bingo, fallacy. laters."

Personal transgression? Ad hominem. Why should either of the first listen to the second on the bases of an ad hominem? lame.

Loco parentis is a psychologcial stratagy for coping (Defensive coping, if anything.). It could be used for many other things. But its also a fallacy of composition, and deflection of responsibility. (which is another form of defensive coping skills.) It can and is probably used by everybody.

13) P-C light ups. Yeah. A sign of a authoritarian parent (which promotes negative child devlopment) is Autocracy, and overprotectiveness (probably out of fear,distrust, etc..) While egocentric isn't something bad, it's just a fact and part of human nature of child development. Why does it sound like compliance is a bad thing? I would like my child to be complaint when it comes to doing things, such as chores, doing homework, or doing something I think that should be done (e,g; if i had a son that punched a kid because he had glases, I'd go tell him to go say sorry, and I would expect him not to let me down if he agreed to go say sorry.) I would like my child to understand the concept of compliance when my child grows up)

But yes, Two signs of Authoritarian parent is autocracy and over-overprotectedness. It negatively promotes child development. And to be constructive and encouraging is a good sign of a loving parent. And yeah, a parent is suppose to prepare the child to independence and into adulthood.

14) Dynamic shifted- Yes, because if you are above a certain age, (Percieved as one who is capable of strong decision-making and critical thinking) then of course the dynamic will change. Though they might disagree or think differently for a short while since one is making a huge differing decision from the social group, but once a person acknowledge that they are in charge of their decision and that it is their life, they should respect their stance for who they are.

For example, If I were to become vegetarian and all my friends thought I was not being me, or doing something new, or whatever. If I told them I rationalized my decision based on the fact that 1) Vegetables are really really good for you. 2) Red meats increase my chance of heart problems ( I forgot which one, but its either stroke or..? :/ ). Of course, over time they will agree and respect where I come from. It is the same of many topics, and also depends on the color blood the majority of your social group stands.

15) Religion should be a nonissue. Who is to pressure me into believing any certain thing? It should be a private/personal matters, with an inward focus. (doesn't mean it hurts to share with those who share similar thoughts/values! It's how people maake friends ) He's got a good point here.

16) Behavior witnessed.. People are strange. XD

values promoted are still good, however, the people's behavior is totally out there. The values are still good, the people are subjected to free-will and whatever. Point is, the values are good inthemselves, but you shan't put people to the same expectedness. (eg, I'm for the republican party (mostly, if it really boiled down to dems and reps. only : /) But I do so not on the people who represent the party, but the values and idea(ls) of republicanism.

17) Equal human rights v()b Good stuff.

18) Systems of abuse cannot be maintained - Yes. This is why U.S.S.R fell. Systematic oppression will always fail.

I'm not quite sure what he means by Social infantilism systems.

TL;DR.


So is 5-7 really considered manipulations? Hmm. In my opinion, no. These are all signs of good (or least, attempts) of good parenting in loving their child. They will do their best, but no parent is ever perfect (okay well, I guess we are sometimes lucky that we get parents who are amazing , or lame :/) But no parent is perfect in all ways. We just need to be good enough and try our best while living life. I don't think we should consider 5-7 manipulations. They are ways of parenting and parents go about raising a child. When they mean that suppressed Critical thinking is because it is the parents fault to begin. If the parent doesn't engage in critical thinking, the child will not adopt the same behaviors.

The video has an air of clearly not having an equitable trade. He clearly has an agenda. What is wrong with the parent-child relationship? Many of the things he pointed out are because that is how parents..you know, parent. (lol). Religion doesn't infantise us, It is that we are not critically thinking about it. His Alternative, seemingly, is good. But in the end, what presents with us is basically atheism as an alternative (only.) And it's quite clear thorought the video.

I did listen with an open mind, and I did find some good, honest good stuff in there. But overall, the video isn't good. I fail to understand how 5-7 are bad, when in truth they are not. His agenda is apparent as well, and also fails to provide a equitable middle-ground. (He says the Adult, middle ground) but really..? He's nudging the point. His background notion of middle ground is Atheism. It's funny how he puts (quitely) that Religion is oppressive, discouraging and anti-constructive. It isn't in all my experiences so far.

...LOL. Dang. I wrote lots. I don't mean to argue with you on anything too much, but.. well, Lets just say winter break suddenly gives students way too much free time. hahah.


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From the == and up, I wrote 4 pages worth of stuff. Undouble spaced. XD hahahha.

I shouldn't drink and watch serious videos. ever lol

 

I am in such a fucked up position in my head right now. I hate feeling this way.

 

Risking wearing a pair of boxers that have a hole in them tonight

 

ohhhh, do it, risk everything!

 

Sooooo...

ripped a hole in time.
feelsgoodman.

 

I know. The teaser does look amazing. Too bad it won't run in my shitty computer. Grr.

But I'm definitely upgrading my graphics card so that I can play Arkham Asylum.

 

Well, the two days off were fun while they lasted. Now it's time for a week full of BS customers that don't give a shit about the store *sigh*

 

Thanks for stopping me from going out for my best friend's birthday you selfish cunt.

 

I also once knew a cunt who had that kind of attitude - she is no longer in my life.

 

Man I've been waiting for the ilomilo demo to be released for a couple weeks now only to realize it's being kept a secret, out of public sight. Damn you for confusing me, ilomilo! *shakes fist*

 

What a pathetic win.