Your views on Reanimation

[The Prisoner]

Reanimation is under the Top 3 of the LP albums.

Personally I think it's highly unfair letting Reanimation and Meteora fight against each other. Reanimation smashes Meteora to the bones.
It's like a battle between Chao-Zu and Vegeta.

[Blake]

Reanimation is under the Top 3 of the LP albums.

Personally I think it's highly unfair letting Reanimation and Meteora fight against each other. Reanimation smashes Meteora to the bones.
It's like a battle between Chao-Zu and Vegeta.

Vegeta wins...

[Snail]

Reanimation is LP's most overrated release. Krwlng, 1 Stp Klosr, My<Dsmbr and nothing else.

Reanimation is the most overrated LP release ever though.

Reanimation is not a critically acclaimed piece of work by any means. I do not see how it is overrated.
Give us a nice description of why you folks deem Reanimation an overrated release and maybe your opinion will appear to hold some form of validity.

You know... kind of like how the rest of us have:

In case you're somehow not trolling (if you are, good job, I guess) - Shinoda did produce "Reanimation" - he's a very capable producer if nothing else. In particular, he took on "Pushing", "Crawling" and "By Myself", and contributed vocals, guitars and production to various other tracks on the album. And that's in addition to overseeing the entire project.
His production style, along with Linkin Park's musical style, has evolved substantially in the time since "Reanimation" so you can't exactly say he's not present on the album just because the beats on "Reanimation" don't match the beats he makes today.

One of their best. The only downfall is some of the guest rappers that I could do without Rnw@y,Wth>You. It was a window into what the band could become. That's why I love Living Things so much. Reanimation showed how the band could mix various styles (with some guest producer help). Hybrid Theory is a wonderful debut but a bit limited in scope. Reanimation showed the band had real range. Meteora kind of stunted that along with MTM imo (still love them). ATS and Living Things are back on that trend.
I find a lot of fans who love Reanimation are a bit older and are familiar with a lot of the guests and producers. It was more our era with Orgy (Jay Gordon), Taproot (Stephen Richards), The Roots (Black Thought), Sneaker Pimps (Kelli Ali), etc being on the album. That's the 80s baby's shit lol. Not so much the younger crowd who may have started with Meteora. Then we have fans like Philsfan, who is 15 and awesome. lol

But back to Reanimation as a whole, it was LP pushing themselves creatively and working without constraints. Reanimation is more of a "hybrid theory" than the album with that name. It's LP at their best, a genre-less outfit that you can't label and raised the stakes for what I thought they would become. This is what made Meteora and MTM so disappointing to me. One album that was a ripoff of their debut and another where they had an identity crisis. It took them 8 years (ATS) to figure out how to be what they appeared to be heading towards all along.

I think Reanimation was the band's first real display of, "Let's try something different." I've seen other bands release remix albums, but none where the band was so actively a part of the process and threw out newly written lyrics and such. I think it's a close second in regards to studio releases (not official albums, of course) behind A Thousand Suns. It brought out the best of Hybrid Theory and really made a lot of those songs better. I'll never forget hearing that album for the first time and how impressed I was. The only effort by Linkin Park that has ever really impressed me more was A Thousand Suns - which to me still stands to be the best piece of work they've released.

[The Prisoner]

Vegeta wins...

Yep, thanks my friend. I see you're on top.

[Andreina]

Reanimation does get a lot of hype, and it does have some lacking tracks - but I wouldn't say it's overrated. I said it before, but that was the band's first effort to really say "Here is something completely different."

This. I mean, everytime I read someone bashing ATS and saying that "it's not Linkin Park" I always bring Reanimation as a proof, how could people not see that coming? Reanimation stripped the guitars off of Hybrid Theory and still made the songs sound really good and powerful without having guitars as protagonists. And even with its existence I can't comprehend how people and even fans were "scandalized" when LP released an album like ATS, how different is ATS from Reanimation? There isn't a dramatical difference between the two IMO when it comes to the nature behind them.

Of course ATS was way more elaborated and was conceived in a more mature stage of the band, but still has that essence and idea that Reanimation had at the time.

[Blake]

Yep, thanks my friend. I see you're on top.

Vegeta= Meteora to me though

[Brian]

It's not my favourite LP release, but hell, this is coming for a guy who's more into the rock end of the musical spectrum. For a genre I never 100% got into, it's damn amazing! And one of the things I love about linkin park is the sheer number of genres they have mastered, it's this kind of record, along with many of their other releases of course, that proves that.

[aKaRiot]

Reanimation was actually the first LP album, I ever owned and it got played day in day out.

I basically had this and Hybrid Theory at the same time and would debate with myself which version of which song I liked better.

I love Reanimation. I wish they would have developed that remixed sound into something else. (Collision Course was still immaculate IMO, just not the same creative level as Reanimation)

The album was worlds better than M2M, but so is everything else they've ever put out.

[Jeff]

For me, Reanimation is a perfect re-imagining of what Hybrid Theory is. The production on the album is incredible and has some of the bands greatest works, aside from a few tracks on the album.

[aKaRiot]

Couldn't agree more. It was awesome.

[TheZlajaZlo]

Reanimation is a perfect re-imagining of what Hybrid Theory is.

You mean like The Wiz?

[Flagrare]

I really like it, and I wouldn't argue people who said it's one of their best. The way the songs were deconstructed and put back together in such a creative way really made it different.

KRWLNG is one of my fav songs of all time, and the rendition of Pushing Me Away and By Myself are some of the best. And even some songs create that rough wall-of-sound and atmosphere in them (in my opinion), like a few said around here, it was ahead of its time, and at some points in terms of sound you could compare it to ATS, but of course Reanimation has heavy hip hop influences as opposed to ATS.

It's a great album, and I count it as studio album rather than a mere remix album, because the majority of the songs had variations on their lyrics and different build-ups, so it's like writing them all over again.

I agree with everything you said, except this. We're talking about one album that have When They Come For Me and Wretches & Kings as songs.

And plus I'll say that Plc.4 Mie Haed is fucking great to me.

[Andreina]

I agree with everything you said, except this. We're talking about one album that have When They Come For Me and Wretches & Kings as songs.

And plus I'll say that Plc.4 Mie Haed is fucking great to me.

There is only 2 "heavy hip hop" songs in ATS, while in Reanimation it's more than half the album (if you don't count the interludes + Opening and Cure for the Itch)

[Nish]

I don't listen to Reanimation much these days. That being said, I think it was a great showcase of the bands true potential and thirst for creativity. Like a lot of people have already mentioned, it was ahead of it's time and showed where the band could go. And yet, for some reason, it's the 2nd last album that comes to mind for me when LP releases are mentioned (last being Collision Course). I was a bit of a pretentious musical elitist until Reanimation forced me to reconsider what I liked in music, as ATS did again 8 years later.

[Filip]

Reanimation is not a critically acclaimed piece of work by any means. I do not see how it is overrated.
Give us a nice description of why you folks deem Reanimation an overrated release and maybe your opinion will appear to hold some form of validity.

You know... kind of like how the rest of us have:

I think it's getting much more praise by the fans than it deserves. Reanimation is experimenting, and pushing the limits of pop culture, and people seem to love it, while albums like A Thousand Suns aren't getting such acclaim by the same fans, the ones that love Hybrid Theory, and I consider ATS much better than Reanimation. Hybrid Theory is my favourite LP album, and ATS is my second. That proves I like both ''old Linkin Park'' and ''new Linkin Park''. I love Krwlng and 1 Stp Kloser, and I listen to them almost every day, but the rest of the album is boring, and I just want it to end when I'm listening to it. I'm one of LP's younger fans on this page, I guess, and I've been listening to them since MTM, but I can say that I love all of their albums. No LP album ever had to grow on me, I liked it on the first listen, but I thought Reanimation would eventually grow on me...I still hope it will. That's my opinion, you don't have to agree.

[Flagrare]

There is only 2 "heavy hip hop" songs in ATS, while in Reanimation it's more than half the album (if you don't count the interludes + Opening and Cure for the Itch)

Yes, I do not disagree with that point. All I meant is that ATS also has heavy influences from Hip Hop too.

[Moridin]

I think it's getting much more praise by the fans than it deserves.

I think it's less a case of the album getting more praise than it deserves and more a case of LP getting more credit then they deserve. 9 of the 14 actual songs (not counting intro. segues or X-Ecutioner Style) were remixed by people who aren't in LP. I get the vibe that folk here are ignoring (or maybe aren't aware of) the significant contributions other artists had in ReA & crediting LP for work they didn't do.

[Qwerty19]

I think it's less a case of the album getting more praise than it deserves and more a case of LP getting more credit then they deserve. 9 of the 14 actual songs (not counting intro. segues or X-Ecutioner Style) were remixed by people who aren't in LP. I get the vibe that folk here are ignoring (or maybe aren't aware of) the significant contributions other artists had in ReA & crediting LP for work they didn't do.

I was about to post the same exact thing. Aside from that, Reanimation is still great anyway, but we can't give all the creativity credits to LP.

[Blake]

I was about to post the same exact thing. Aside from that, Reanimation is still great anyway, but we can't give all the creativity credits to LP.

yes, if you just look at the responses in the thread, they are giving too much credit/ overrating it

[Xodus]

yes, if you just look at the responses in the thread, they are giving too much credit/ overrating it

That other artists had a hand in it is irrelevant in the argument of whether or not it is overrated and it seems as if you are piggybacking on this argument since people have asked you why you think it is overrated since those of us who love it are able to express in detail why we think it's an impressive piece of work.

Whether or not all of, most of or none of the creative credit goes to LP doesn't change the fact that Reanimation showed the potential and versatility LP has and that is the point just about everyone here is making. And no one has intimated that LP should be given ALL the credit but I don't see the point in bringing this up when the project was overseen and produced by Mike and a handful of the songs were remixed by Mike as well.