What do you think about Meteora

[Cookie Monster]

It's the album that got me into LP, and music in general. Looking back at it now, of course a lot of the lyrics are bad. But it still packs a punch, and you can't help but sing along and bang your head to this shit when you hear it. This album is by no means a masterpiece but it does have a special place for me.

[Rocky]

One person's overproduced is another person's close attention to detail.

Nah, "overproduced" is a term that is used by people who don't know styles of production/mixing and don't appreciate the lack of rawness in "pop" production.

[shinformant]

One person's overproduced is another person's close attention to detail.

Meteora's "close attention to detail" is bordering on the autistic. The drums sound like biscuit tins, the vocals have shitloads of layers for no reason at all and they may as well have not had a bassist at that point in their career.

[Promofrog]

Meteora's "close attention to detail" is bordering on the autistic. The drums sound like biscuit tins, the vocals have shitloads of layers for no reason at all and they may as well have not had a bassist at that point in their career.

When have they ever needed a bassist?

[Fury99]

I love all LP albums. I can't choose one over the other, Meteora is definitely my work out album, though. It's their hardest album in my opinion.

[Promofrog]

I love all LP albums. I can't choose one over the other, Meteora is definitely my work out album, though. It's their hardest album in my opinion.

I think Living things could be your new work out album

[Xodus]

I voted Meteora as being bad. Really I think the only people who can mindlessly listen to music. Like Mike has said in the past is that Linkin Park is "good at polishing a turd." They can make a "bad" song like Somewhere I Belong SOUND like a good song even though the lyrics are terrible and it's structure is taken straight from In The End.

But the lyrics themselves aren't bad because they're angst-ridden. The problem is that they're angst-ridden while seeming to be forced and written by a 14-year old. I will never forgive Don Gilmore for butchering the lyrics on that album by making Mike and Chester re-write the lyrics over and over so some slow-witted 13-year old in Ohio can get it.

Take the Faint demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtqVUsOQtrw

Mike's lyrics aren't mind-blowing in this demo by any means but it feels real and his rhyming is a bit more clever. Faint is one of the songs I can still listen to on Meteora but the energy is night and day. Don Gilmore made them re-write the lyrics to the point that they made Linkin Park a caricature of themselves and it's impossible to tell what these songs are about other than trying to recreate the magic of HT.

Look at the lyrics on Forgotten vs. Somewhere I Belong. How anyone can say Meteora isn't worse lyrically is beyond me.

Forgotten

There's a place so dark you can't see the end
(Skies cock back) and shock that which can't defend
The rain then sends dripping acidic questions
Forcefully, the power of suggestion
Then with the eyes tightly shut looking thought the rust and rotten dust
A spot of light floods the floor
And pours over the rusted world of pretend
The eyes ease open and its dark again

SIB

(When this began)
I had nothing to say
And I get lost in the nothingness inside of me
(I was confused)
And I let it all out to find
That I’m not the only person with these things in mind
(Inside of me)
But all that they can see the words revealed
Is the only real thing that I’ve got left to feel
(Nothing to lose)
Just stuck, hollow and alone
And the fault is my own, and the fault is my own

"I had nothing to say and I get lost in the nothingness inside of me." Really?

[Pidgeon]

I voted Meteora as being bad. Really I think the only people who can mindlessly listen to music. Like Mike has said in the past is that Linkin Park is "good at polishing a turd." They can make a "bad" song like Somewhere I Belong SOUND like a good song even though the lyrics are terrible and it's structure is taken straight from In The End.

But the lyrics themselves aren't bad because they're angst-ridden. The problem is that they're angst-ridden while seeming to be forced and written by a 14-year old. I will never forgive Don Gilmore for butchering the lyrics on that album by making Mike and Chester re-write the lyrics over and over so some slow-witted 13-year old in Ohio can get it.

Take the Faint demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtqVUsOQtrw

Mike's lyrics aren't mind-blowing in this demo by any means but it feels real and his rhyming is a bit more clever. Faint is one of the songs I can still listen to on Meteora but the energy is night and day. Don Gilmore made them re-write the lyrics to the point that they made Linkin Park a caricature of themselves and it's impossible to tell what these songs are about other than trying to recreate the magic of HT.

Look at the lyrics on Forgotten vs. Somewhere I Belong. How anyone can say Meteora isn't worse lyrically is beyond me.

Forgotten

There's a place so dark you can't see the end
(Skies cock back) and shock that which can't defend
The rain then sends dripping acidic questions
Forcefully, the power of suggestion
Then with the eyes tightly shut looking thought the rust and rotten dust
A spot of light floods the floor
And pours over the rusted world of pretend
The eyes ease open and its dark again

SIB

(When this began)
I had nothing to say
And I get lost in the nothingness inside of me
(I was confused)
And I let it all out to find
That I’m not the only person with these things in mind
(Inside of me)
But all that they can see the words revealed
Is the only real thing that I’ve got left to feel
(Nothing to lose)
Just stuck, hollow and alone
And the fault is my own, and the fault is my own

"I had nothing to say and I get lost in the nothingness inside of me." Really?

Hold on now, forgotten was like the one song of HT that didn't sound exactly like meteora, if we're excluding demos. Other than forgotten, hybrid theory is lyrically no better than meteora

[ZoeLinkingal]

I voted Meteora as "Okay".

It was not really the music that got me into the band, even though Numb was the first song I listened to. It was the live performance that got me into the band. The Numb I heard was also from Live in Texas video and from there, I went to watch their whole Live in Texas show on YouTube and that was what got me into the band. To be honest, it is unlike me to like a song from a band and check out their other stuff. Usually, I will just settle for 1 or 2 songs and that's it but Linkin Park was special to me.

I'm neither a Meteora supporter or hater but I disagree that Meteora was a twin of Hybrid Theory. They are similar but definitely not twin or the same. Meteora was abit more melodic while Hybrid Theory was more rap/rock hard beat, that's what I think Peace~!

[Xodus]

Hold on now, forgotten was like the one song of HT that didn't sound exactly like meteora, if we're excluding demos. Other than forgotten, hybrid theory is lyrically no better than meteora

Disagree. Here's In The End which SIB was a direct rip off of:

(It starts with one)
One thing I don't know why
It doesn’t even matter how hard you try
Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme
To explain in due time
All I know
time is a valuable thing
Watch it fly by as the pendulum swings
Watch it count down to the end of the day
The clock ticks life away
It’s so unreal
Didn’t look out below
Watch the time go right out the window
Trying to hold on but didn’t even know
Wasted it all just to
Watch you go
I kept everything inside
and even though I tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to me will eventually be a memory of a time when I tried so hard

Not Mike's most clever rapping (even on the three versions of this song--the demo and the remix are far better lyrically) but even in this version there's a decent rhyme scheme and a bit of imagery. Nothing as comical as being lost in the nothingness inside of you.

So I'm not only using Mike's lyrics as an example I'll post some of Chester's work too. This time, Runaway.

Graffiti decorations
Under a sky of dust
A constant wave of tension
On top of broken trust
The lessons that you taught me
I learn were never true
Now I find myself in question
(They point the finger at me again)
Guilty by association
(You point the finger at me again)

Again, while not the most incredible lyrics I've ever heard, far more impressive than anything on Meteora. There's imagery and a bit of poetic value in these lyrics. Runaway, In The End and Forgotten may all be about the same thing as a number of songs on Meteora but if you're gonna be angsty at least they were a bit more skillful in their angst on Hybrid Theory.