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    http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?t...storyID=7682264

    New Tapes Say Bush May Have Smoked Marijuana
    Sun Feb 20, 2005 03:40 PM ET

    By Sue Pleming

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush indicated in interviews secretly taped by a friend before he became president that he had used marijuana but would not admit it for fear of setting a bad example for children.

    Portions of the tapes, recorded from 1998 to 2000 by author Doug Wead without Bush's knowledge, were aired on ABC News on Sunday and published by The New York Times. Their authenticity was verified by the media outlets but has not been independently checked by Reuters.

    "I wouldn't answer the marijuana question. You know why? Because I don't want some little kid doing what I tried," Bush purportedly says on the tape.

    He added: "But you got to understand, I want to be president. I want to lead. I want to set -- Do you want your little kid say, 'Hey, Daddy, President Bush tried marijuana, I think I will?"'

    In the tape, Bush mocks former Vice President Al Gore -- who fought him for the presidency in 2000 -- for admitting he smoked marijuana.

    White House officials did not dispute the tapes' veracity and indicated the president was disappointed by their release.

    "These were casual conversations that then Gov. Bush was having with someone he thought was a friend, and that's what they are," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters traveling with Bush to Europe aboard Air Force One.

    NOT AWARE

    McClellan said Bush, who was governor of Texas when the tapes were made, was not aware he was being recorded and the White House found out only when contacted by the New York Times for comment.

    "Look, I think that, one, the comments in the tapes speak for themselves. And two, I think that what I just said pretty much speaks for itself," McClellan said when pressed about the details.

    "Those were issues that were addressed ad nauseam four years ago and they were conversations that took place more than four years ago," he said, adding that Bush had not been in contact with Wead for several years.

    Wead, a former aide to Bush's father President George H.W. Bush, released portions of the tapes to coincide with the publication of his new book and told ABC he made the tapes because he believed the president was an historic figure.

    "If I'd had a chance to tape record Gandhi or had conversations with Churchill, I probably would have recorded them too," he said.

    He also insisted his goal was not to hurt the president's credibility and said if this were the case he would have released the tapes during the 2004 election campaign.

    Asked about the tapes in an interview with CNN, the president's father said he was not aware of them and declined comment.

    Sitting next to Bush was ex-President Bill Clinton, who admitted to smoking marijuana when he campaigned for the White House but said he never inhaled the illegal drug.

    The two former presidents are touring areas affected by the Dec. 26 Indian Ocean tsunami.
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    I really don't care if the President smoked pot.

    Seriously. Why should I care?

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    OH GOD WHAT POLITICIAN HASN'T?



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    Originally posted by Casey@Feb 20 2005, 11:20 PM
    I really don't care if the President smoked pot.

    Seriously. Why should I care?
    Agreed.

    I think that most people, at least in the US, have at some point smoked pot. To attack a politician for doing something like that as a kid is silly.


    ...there are much more interesting and recent things to get pissed at politicians for.
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    But its not anyone. Its the president for christ sakes. A role model (god, saying that makes me want to puke) for some kids out there.

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    Yeah, parents are role models too, and I'm willing to bet they've done some things in their past they regret.

    I can see why it's a big deal (because he's in the highest position in the United States), but I guess I can over-look that and say that he was just a kid/teenager. How the fuck was he to know he'd grow up to be a role model for people?

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    Originally posted by Todd@Feb 20 2005, 11:31 PM
    But its not anyone. Its the president for christ sakes. A role model (god, saying that makes me want to puke) for some kids out there.
    Well then it was responsible of him to not want to come out with the fact that he did it.


    Would you want to be judged when you were in your 50s for something you had done 30 years before?

    Also Todd, unless I've gotten you mixed up in my mind with someone else, aren't you for legalizing pot? If I got in wrong, I apologize, that drug thread was awhile ago.

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    why does it matter i mean honestly. why must the press dig up every small deatail from the past. do we really need to know. NO....now if he was STILL doing pot...i think we ought to know but in this case it doesnt matter.

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    My parents admitted that they used to smoke pot. They are much bigger role models than the damn president to me. Do I give a shit? No. Will I smoke pot? Probably not, but if I try it, it will not be because my parents or the president did it.

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    why does it matter????

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    The fact that he smoked pot I couldn't care less about. The fact that he lied/lies about it constantly is what bothers me. Also he acts as if is actions/words are those of God, while in the meantime he performs/performed actions that are considered immoral while refusing to acknowledge them.

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    Originally posted by Shade@Feb 20 2005, 11:24 PM
    The fact that he smoked pot I couldn't care less about. The fact that he lied/lies about it constantly is what bothers me. Also he acts as if is actions/words are those of God, while in the meantime he performs/performed actions that are considered immoral while refusing to acknowledge them.
    I agree. Even though smoking pot and lying about it is worse than admitting it, smoking pot is illegal and lying isn't.

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    Originally posted by Todd@Feb 20 2005, 07:31 PM
    But its not anyone. Its the president for christ sakes. A role model (god, saying that makes me want to puke) for some kids out there.
    i agree w/ that.

    im also pissed off that Clinton gets flamed for better behavior than Bush for way worse behavior.

    and if everyone (i use the word everyone loosely) has already smoked it, and our country's leader smoked it, why shouldnt it be leagal. alcohol is WAY worse than pot. grrrrr......Bush has been a freaking alcoholic and driven drunk and almost killed ppl. grrr.... he makes me so mad

    anyway, he, vry unfortunatly, is our leader (if you wanna call him that) and should be our country's role modle ( :x ) and should NOT be taking part or have taken part in illeaglal activiteis.

    you may ask "why does it matter?" it matters because if it doesnt matter for him then it shouldnt matter for us. it matters cuz it is a double standard. it matters cuz he was too cowardice to answer the damn question. at least Gore was honest.
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    Originally posted by Holiday+Feb 21 2005, 01:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Holiday @ Feb 21 2005, 01:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Todd@Feb 20 2005, 07:31 PM
    But its not anyone. Its the president for christ sakes. A role model (god, saying that makes me want to puke) for some kids out there.
    i agree w/ that.

    im also pissed off that Clinton gets flamed for better behavior than Bush for way worse behavior.

    and if everyone (i use the word everyone loosely) has already smoked it, and our country&#39;s leader smokes it, why shouldnt it be leagal. alcohol is WAY worse than pot. grrrrr......

    anyway, he, vry unfortunatly, is our leader (if you wanna call him that) and should be our country&#39;s role modle ( :x ) and should NOT be taking part or have taken part in illeaglal activiteis.

    you may ask "why does it matter?" it matters because if it doesnt matter for him then it shouldnt matter for us. it matters cuz it is a double standard. [/b][/quote]
    I think the point that&#39;s generally trying to be made is that while everyone would be quite pissed if Bush smoked now, no one really cares what kind of shit he messed with as a teenager.

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    George Bush was a kid too. Not like he knew he was going to be the president.


    Besides, who cares about a president who may have smoked weed once. I think I&#39;m fully capable of capacitating formal thoughts, and I&#39;ve done it about 20 times.
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    Originally posted by Neil@Feb 21 2005, 12:41 PM
    George Bush was a kid too. Not like he knew he was going to be the president.


    Besides, who cares about a president who may have smoked weed once. I think I&#39;m fully capable of capacitating formal thoughts, and I&#39;ve done it about 20 times.
    yeah really. if you knew you were going to be president (or some other authoritative figure) you would not have done/ do half the shit that you might do now as a teenager. so it shouldnt matter what he DID in the past....the past should be left alone some times, and not dug up to make a big deal over nothing.

    but going along with what Shade said...Bush should not have lied about it, he should have just admitted it and moved on.

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    Seeing that I go to school where most everyone tries it at least once, I really don&#39;t care. People make mistakes, the past is the past, get on with what&#39;s important now.

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    I think some of you guys (*cough*Todd*cough*) try to make Bush look like a horrible person for the dumbest things. The guy tried pot, boo-fucking-whoo. Cry me a river.


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    Who&#39;s Tood?
    So, I'm going to go kick Abaddon in the balls. Later.

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    Originally posted by Cameron@Feb 22 2005, 03:49 AM
    Who&#39;s Tood?
    My new nickname for Todd. HI TOOD&#33;


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