Father of Executed American Blasts Bush, Media

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    Omar A

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    No offense, but does he expect two warring parties to hand baskets of candy to each other? I mean, this war is unjustified, for sure, but people are going to die. He went to Iraq knowing that he could die, and he did.

    Maybe I'm not seeing the big picture here, but I hate how the media makes it seem like these couple deaths we have every once in a while is such a big deal. We lost over five million total people in one battle during the Revolutionary War at Gettysburg, so losing one person every once in a while is not that big a deal.

    Or maybe I'm a sadist.
     
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    Amen to that.

    Isn't it kind of funny that the people making the decisions do not have to suffer the slightest? The Goverment doesn't give a #### if people suffer... and why should they? They get what they want and that's all that matters.
     
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    Actually, you're completely right.

    Berg knew he needed to get out. He didn't get out in time when he had the chance -- the freaking FBI offered to get him out. They even said chances are he'd be taken hostage... but he refused.

    Considering the Bush administration provided Berg a high-profit job and he lept at the chance, I'm not sure what his father is complaining about. I don't agree with everything Bush does (despite me wanting him over Kerry in the election), but he gave Berg a nice job and tried to get him escorted out of Iraq... what exactly did he do wrong (in this situation) again?
     
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    Actually, you're completely right.

    Berg knew he needed to get out. He didn't get out in time when he had the chance -- the freaking FBI offered to get him out. They even said chances are he'd be taken hostage... but he refused.

    Considering the Bush administration provided Berg a high-profit job and he lept at the chance, I'm not sure what his father is complaining about. I don't agree with everything Bush does (despite me wanting him over Kerry in the election), but he gave Berg a nice job and tried to get him escorted out of Iraq... what exactly did he do wrong (in this situation) again? [/b][/quote]
    Do you actually believe that they wanted to escort Berg out of Iraq? Thats just a lie to cover themselves. If they really wanted to escort him out, than why wouldn't they escort the rest of the american that are in Iraq right now?

    And Will, I'm sure if you see someone you know very close gets his head cut off, you'll be pissed
     
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    enfestid

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    You do realize that his family has said he was offered out by the FBI?

    Some lie :rolleyes:

    And, yes, they tried to escort most of the Americans that were not involved with the military or security out.
     
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    And how the #### does his family know? They probably know because the FBI told them.
     
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    Oh, of course I'd be mad. I'd be mad for sure. But I'd deal with it because it's war. People die in wars. It's a fact of life.
     
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    Thank you Will. I hate to be heartless but reading the first post I got annoyed by the father going "OH WAR IS UGLY". Of course it is, why does he think almost every American has a problem with it?
     
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    Thank you Will. I hate to be heartless but reading the first post I got annoyed by the father going "OH WAR IS UGLY". Of course it is, why does he think almost every American has a problem with it? [/b][/quote]
    im with will/derek. i mean OBVIOUSLY people die in wars. the dude that got beheaded was unlucky, and of course we should feel sympathy for his family. but we're talking war here. s*it happens you know?
     
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    And how the #### does his family know? They probably know because the FBI told them. [/b][/quote]
    Because their song, Michael Berg, the guy who was beheaded, called them and told them that he was going home on his own after the FBI called him. They have said this in interviews.
     
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    Because their song, Michael Berg, the guy who was beheaded, called them and told them that he was going home on his own after the FBI called him. They have said this in interviews. [/b][/quote]
    Nick Berg. ;)
     
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    My fault, got the father and son's names mixed up.
     
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    I agree with Will,Derek and Ass-Kicker you can't expect to go to war and for people not to get killed. I still don't like wars because innocent people get killed but then.. are these people innocent because they may have killed someone else whilst fighing a war? :wth:
     
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    Nick Berg was a tourist, not a soldier.
     
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    Nick Berg was a tourist, not a soldier. [/b][/quote]
    He was an independent contractor.
     
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    Nick Berg was a tourist, not a soldier. [/b][/quote]
    No he wasn't... as Will said, he was contracted by the government. I believe he was in the technology field (telecommunications, I want to say, but I could be wrong). He got paid quite a nice fee to be there, too.


    No offense to Iraq (or you), but who would tour Iraq right now? :lol:
     
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    Well didn't he go to Iraq to rebuild it? If he did, then the media is making the image that the Iraqis are killing people that are trying to help them. If he didn't, then it is just another noted death.

    I agree with some of you and yes, people are going to die but parents at home are going to feel very angry and saddened when their sons die and some, like this case, are going to complain. I'm also glad that the father is doing this to show an anti-war view to Bush
     
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    No he wasn't... as Will said, he was contracted by the government. I believe he was in the technology field (telecommunications, I want to say, but I could be wrong). He got paid quite a nice fee to be there, too.


    No offense to Iraq (or you), but who would tour Iraq right now? :lol: [/b][/quote]
    He was in Iraq looking for electrical contracting work to build radio towers for Iraqis. You know, the ones destroyed by American bombs. Tourist may not have been the right status to give him, but he was not a soldier, as I said.

    This is somewhat related, but; 50 Fishy Circumstances of Nick Berg's decapitation video.

    At least 5 of them are unfounded, but there's 45 there.

    Edit: This too: Fishy circumstances and flawed timelines of surround American's beheading
     
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    enfestid

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    Yep.

    I'm surprised the media hasn't played the role you mentioned, actually -- blaming the Iraqis for attacking people trying to help. Very few have done so yet.
     

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