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Andrea
01-19-2004, 03:32 AM
Why must life suck so much? Seriously, I have had a lot of good things happen to me like I have a boyfriend, I go to a lot of concerts, I own a car, I have lots of friends (mostly guys though) and I get semi-good grades at school. Yet, I think life sucks and I'm always depressed. Although, I think my home life triggers my depression. Have you ever felt that you were happy but yet your not really happy? I hate that feeling. I can be having the best time of my life doing something fun and I still won't be truly happy in my mind. Anyone feel like me?
I really scare myself sometimes. I think about death and wanting to die a lot. Anyone else, besides me, do that? I feel lost in this crazy world. Most of the time I don't even know why I am here. How can someone be happy?
I'm sorry if this post is a waste, but I'm going through some tough times personally.
The first thing I have to say is this:
Suicide will solve nothing. Period. It's a permanent solution to a temporary problem. You might not think things will get better, but they will. If you constantly sit there and say things won't get better, then they won't get better.
I'm depressed sometimes, yeah. In fact, I haven't been all that happy for the past month or so. But I know that things won't always be bad. I've got my whole life in front of me. That's plenty of time to be happy. I'm only 16½. I can't expect things to be peachy all the time.
I'm not a social person. I've never had a girlfriend. I'm shy around girls. I don't really have much of a life. It makes me depressed, yeah, but I know that my future is ahead of me so I don't have to worry about feeling depressed all the time. I've never once thought about suicide, no matter how bad anything has ever gotten. Even if I never get married or never have kids or never have a good job, I'll never think about comitting suicide, because it's really not worth it.
I had a friend who thought no one cared about him and that no one loved him, so he killed himself. Come to find out, there were 2 girls that liked him (that he liked) that were just too shy to talk to him. So he killed himself for nothing. What good does that do? Nothing.
All you have to do is think positive.
Andrea
01-19-2004, 03:48 AM
I do think about suicide but I would never do it. I couldn't see myself killing myself. I know things will get better, it's just a matter of time. It's just complicated.
I just needed to get my thoughts out.
Whimsicality
01-19-2004, 04:00 AM
That post isn't a waste at all.
I think that happiness takes a real effort. I haven't been so happy myself for the past few months (although I wouldn't say depressed, not by a stretch), lonely as hell. I moved last August and I have one actual friend, plus a few people I'm friendly with. But, despite that I consider myself a happy person, because you have to train yourself to think that, really, it's gonna be okay. It won't happen overnight, but just keep reminding youself just that--it's gonna be okay. Even if life sucks now, you're what, 16? You've got so much time ahead of you. Anything that happens now doesn't really matter, when it comes down to it.
Try talking to someone who's close to you. I know it sounds like such a typical and cliche answer, but...They know you better then we do, and they can probably help more.
LornVourkolakas
01-19-2004, 04:00 AM
Depression. What to say about depression. I'm probably the one feeling the most depression in this forum. I mean, so many things happened to me all at once, and at such a young age too. I feel this sadness for every little thing. I mean, if someone doesn't say goodbye I end up going into this deep depression thinking that I'm not worth saying goodbye to and not worth talking to. I'm very sensitive.
I sometimes get confused with my feelings. At times I would think I am happy but later find out that that's not what I was feeling. I also look back at things to see what could of been changed.
In my mind, whenever something good happens to me, something really bad comes in return. That's why I get scared at times to take risks at something good. I don't want to risk another thing happening to me or my family or anything.
At times I believe happiness is just a lie. Like a fairy tale. Something that we as little children look up to and wish we had. But will never truly get.
Yes, I have thought of suicide. But I haven't the strength to do it myself. Rather, I end up provoking others to do the deed for me. And doing things that could cause my demise.
They say the teenage years are the worst since they are in the top percentile of suicides. As teenagers, we don't have much experience. And for that, we do the wrong things at times and suffer the consequences. And for this, others will suffer. It's our stupidity that gets to us. The more knowledge you get the more you will understand. The more you will know about getting true happiness.
To me, depression isn't something that could be fixed with a pill. (Like Zoloft) You have to fight your inner demons. You have to search for the good in you. Search for this happiness that has been waiting for you all these years.
Depression has gotten the better of me. I ended up going into denial. Walking around with a big smile on my face. Not letting anyone know the thoughts in my head. Hell, not even my journal has the vivid thoughts in my head. I just wish they would go away. I just want the future to come already. I just want happiness to come already. I'm through with searching. I'm tired of it. I just want it come already.
Lots of rambling... sorry..
Whimsicality
01-19-2004, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by LornVourkolakas@Jan 19 2004, 05:00 AM
In my mind, whenever something good happens to me, something really bad comes in return. That's why I get scared at times to take risks at something good. I don't want to risk another thing happening to me or my family or anything.
I feel that way, a lot. I don't quite get it, because I don't believe in fates or whatever, but whenever I'm on a real high (no, not that kind of high) I always think "I wonder how long before it all crashes down again?"
I agree with a lot of things said in here and I relate to a heap of it. My life is filled with ups and downs (mainly good things now that my main problem has gone). The main reason why I feel depressed a lot is because of my home life and school.
Originally posted by LornVourkolakas@Jan 19 2004, 05:00 AM
In my mind, whenever something good happens to me, something really bad comes in return. That's why I get scared at times to take risks at something good. I don't want to risk another thing happening to me or my family or anything.
I think that a lot as well. It’s probably because if something good does happen, it always f**ks up or something bad happens.
Anthony.
01-19-2004, 12:24 PM
Depression is something bad, but it's all in your mind. You can get into it and get out of it by yourself, but if it's really bad you can take drugs for that. In fact, it's an health condition caused by your emotional one... And it's widely spread, more than ever teenagers are depressive. But is that that we just go down as soon as we have a problem? Or is life really harder than it was? I don't know, and I'm still looking for the answer.
Chris(tmas)
01-19-2004, 12:49 PM
As Will said, suicide wont solve anything
you'll still be unhappy in heaven :P
Sometimes i had my depression times. Let me tell the story :P
I was in love with a girl for a year or so. She knew that, but i was too shy to ask her. So.. what did she? She dated my best friend, who knew it also :) Then, i was depressed for 5months or so. I wanted to kill myself. If they were around me and they were hugging and stuff, they asked me: ' Why are you so depressed? ' :wth: Stupid b*tch :P
And now, she's my best friend.. allthough i dont see her around much..
Last month i had a depressed time, dont know why :wth:
and to be honest.. i only had 3,4 girls in my life.. because im a shy mogo..
J-Flex
01-19-2004, 12:50 PM
i had my depression time as well....
but what i have noticed that lots of LP fans still have it or at least had it once...
i wonder if lp's lyrics is the reason touched that kind of people besides their great music...i mean lp's lyrics dont sound very positive though meteora it was but HT displays how we sometimes feel ....
Alacrity
01-19-2004, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by twicethetrouble+Jan 19 2004, 12:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (twicethetrouble @ Jan 19 2004, 12:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--LornVourkolakas@Jan 19 2004, 05:00 AM
In my mind, whenever something good happens to me, something really bad comes in return. That's why I get scared at times to take risks at something good. I don't want to risk another thing happening to me or my family or anything.
I feel that way, a lot. I don't quite get it, because I don't believe in fates or whatever, but whenever I'm on a real high (no, not that kind of high) I always think "I wonder how long before it all crashes down again?" [/b][/quote]
Same here. It just feels like whenever I get a good break...something happens that just brings it all crashing down.
I've dealt with depression, I went though some hard times and stuff. Last year, I was mildly suicidal. I never thought to kill myself...just what would happen if I went away sometime...or something like that. I dont think that suicide is the answer to all of my problems. Its amazing how much you might miss life once its gone, you know?
I havent really had that many boyfriends. Its not even the fact that I'm shy...Im usually the first one out of my friends to do something daring...or the first one to sing a solo in choir or talk to a guy. Guys in my town just don't like me. I don't get it...alot of my friends just tell me they're shy...but I dont believe any of it. But I know that, like Will said, I have the rest of my life in front of me to deal with that stuff and meet new people.
..sorry about the rambling...
LornVourkolakas
01-19-2004, 02:38 PM
I hate you people. (I mean this as no harm) You all get depressed for reasons that are actually worth getting depressed over. Don't get me? Let me explain:
See, most of you, from what I know, get depressed over things like, losing someone by death or having someone not feel for you the way you feel for them. While, I, just being myself, get depressed over the "little" things. I get depressed over not being said hello. If a friend is talking to someone I don't know. If that person I don't know doesn't bother to say hello, I end up thinking something is wrong with me. Back at Elementary, I was the kid who got into depression when I got one answer wrong in a spelling test. Do you know what that is like? Every little thing? How the hell can I live life like this? I get depressed over things said online. You have no idea how much you guys affect me. I'm surprised I haven't gone mad already. I can't imagine losing someone. I just know that will my limit. Once someone dies, that's it - I'm going mad. Just send me to the mental institution..
Debus
01-19-2004, 02:44 PM
Hmm. I went through a very big depressive period last year. I was seriously thinking about the whole suicide thing and my friends were getting real worried. I got all depressed over nothing and made a big deal over anything that went wrong. I look back on it now and think 'What the f**k was i getting so worked up about'. I still get depressed from time to time but nowhere near as much. I know how bad it feels to be like that day in day out. It is not nice.
Advice to depressed people : Don't let it get you down cuz everything will turn out ok in the end. It did for me so look on the positive side of things. I have gained alot more friends since i became un-depressed.
When i was young i used to dream of being rich
But now im so confused i dont know which road is which
No-matter when your sad and blue
Theres always someone who has it worse than you
And never listen to what they say
Your always gonna have your better days
Theres always hope
To help you carry on
Just never give up
And theres always hope
When you need something to hold you up
And its hope
That keeps me moving on
During life theres always going to be struggle
But when your life is bad you can be sure of a bright tomorrow
All the harsh realities in your life will bring you down
But at the end of every rainbow theres always what you want
Everything you want isnt everything you need
Peoples dreams are always percivered by greed?
Theres always hope
To help you carry on
Just never give up
And theres always hope
When you need something to hold you up
And its hope
That keeps me moving on
Are you prepared to follow or are you set out to lead
Whatever your future you can always succeed
One thing i can promise you is keep on working through
Theres always going to be a better day
Sometimes money dosnt matter
Sometimes less is more
Theres always hope
To help you carry on
Just never give up
And theres always hope
When you need something to hold you up
And its hope
That keeps me moving on
Missy
01-19-2004, 06:01 PM
:chemist: So many serious topics now... I kinda like it.
Yeah, I was going to type up this semi-long story of mine about depression but I would just be rambling so yeah.
But anyway, whenever I get depressed, I just think about Chester. From what I understand, he's been through a sh*tload of problems in his life and look at him now. He's doing what he loves, he has a wife, and he's got a beautiful baby boy. In the end (yeah, I know, LP line), things do get better. :)
Whimsicality
01-19-2004, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by LornVourkolakas@Jan 19 2004, 03:38 PM
I hate you people. (I mean this as no harm) You all get depressed for reasons that are actually worth getting depressed over. Don't get me? Let me explain:
See, most of you, from what I know, get depressed over things like, losing someone by death or having someone not feel for you the way you feel for them. While, I, just being myself, get depressed over the "little" things. I get depressed over not being said hello. If a friend is talking to someone I don't know. If that person I don't know doesn't bother to say hello, I end up thinking something is wrong with me. Back at Elementary, I was the kid who got into depression when I got one answer wrong in a spelling test. Do you know what that is like? Every little thing? How the hell can I live life like this? I get depressed over things said online. You have no idea how much you guys affect me. I'm surprised I haven't gone mad already. I can't imagine losing someone. I just know that will my limit. Once someone dies, that's it - I'm going mad. Just send me to the mental institution..
But see, that is depression. Depression is a disease. It doesn't need to be triggered by anything at all. I myself am I prone to get it in my late teens (family thing) which is part of the reason I try so hard to stay positive now--making good habits, you know?
www.depression.com
LornVourkolakas
01-19-2004, 09:45 PM
The only thing that keeps my mind off depression: Sleep.
whenthisbegan
01-20-2004, 09:28 AM
So Lorn, being depressed about little things makes you the one who has more depression than the rest of us? I'm not saying this to be rude, but something like that kind of irks me. This is depression we're talking about. Why must we compete about a disease?
I've had depression since I can remember. School was a complete hell for me since not only do I have dysthymia (http://health.yahoo.com/health/centers/depression/0918.html), but I was born with another disease called Tuberous Sclerosis (http://health.yahoo.com/health/encyclopedia/000787/0.html). People would constantly make fun of me and I could never understand why. It started once I started school, so I never understood until I was older. By then, I was thinking the reason why people didn't want to be my friend/talk to me/be even near me or cringe at my touch was because I was ugly. I was this hideous thing to them.
On top of all this, I had been sexually abused when I was five years old. My Father used to drink a lot and has gotten into a lot of car accidents. There's also a lot of holes in our walls that had to be refilled because of his drunken rages. He smokes weed, which to some people might not be bad, but he said he wouldn't quit for anybody. My Brother has done hard drugs, and was constantly abused by my father. In fact, we all were. My Brother had it worse, though.
The most friends I've had was possibly one or two at the time, but I hadn't really felt like I had somebody to talk to. I hadn't felt suicidal until the 9th grade, and in the 10th grade I went to the mental health clinic to see what was wrong with me. The mental health clinic in our hospital in town is pratically a second home to me. I'd been going there for years for anger management and thereapy sessions when I was young enough to play with the toys while my Mom spoke for me.
I didn't really have Mom to talk to, because she never really saw my point of view. I don't hate her for this, though. I understand looking after my Father because he's like a big kid that she has to dress and all that. So, I talked to Grammie. She knew everything before anybody else did. She knew I had been sexually abused before anybody and so on. She knew I wasn't happy by looking at me. My Dad laughed when I said I wasn't happy, and didn't know why. Grammie was different, she was concerned. She'd take me out town, she'd take me to the valley or Lunenburg. And then she had a stroke while I went on vacation this past summer, and passed away on Oct. 13, 2003.
I've done the digging, had my Dad threaten to beat the #### out of me if he saw them again. I've contimplated the cutting but I don't think I could withstand feeling a blade running across my skin. As for taking too much medication; I accidently had too much cough syrup but I didn't do that intentionally. It was kind of nice to feel numb over the holidays, though, since it was the first one without Grammie.
I'm not saying all this as pity, I'm saying this to share. There's so much more I can get into, like about feelings and things like that. But if you think going through it is worse, try having the one you love go through it as well - and you can't help. It's hard. I've cried so much for them, and it hurts to know you could tell them till your face turns blue how much you care but it doesn't work.
Recently with this place my Grandmother had shown me in the paper called SSWAP, I've been able to get through a lot of things due to a life skills class. I've opened up a lot more and people know the real me. I've not only been able to make more friends and be more social (things that have been painful to do in the past - and still are in some ways), I've managed to have a job placement at CD Plus. Without this place, I wouldn't have been able to handle it. Plus, with the help of my therapist, I've been able to come a long way with my dysthymia as well. It's good to have somebody to spill your emotions to that you don't understand, and they make sense out of them.
Don't get me wrong, there are days I don't want to get out of bed or even want to wake up. But I make myself because I've been stuck in this room for too long. I spent two years hiding away in front of my computer, doing nothing but wasting time. I could've been out getting a job and a lisence, but I don't hate myself for it. I was insecure, I was scared, and people knew that. I haven't heard anybody say anything rude in my direction in a while now, not like I usually do. Now I'm attempting my second job placement and this spring, hopefully going for my lisence.
My advice I guess, would be to not give up. Hard to say coming from somebody who's kind of stuck in the middle, but I understand where you're coming from. I'm not going to say I know how you feel, because I get angry when people tell me that. If you're that overwhelmed, try getting some help. I'm trying to get my friend to do this as well, but I understand I can only push and shove so much and they won't budge if they don't want to. Same goes for you. But it really helps, and it also untangles those knots you have in your stomach all the time.
I think this is the longest post I've ever made.
Kæton
01-20-2004, 12:00 PM
Man, I tried to stay away from this thread, but I can't help it. You guys aren't alone, and I guess I should share my half, heh.
My situation is a bit bizarre, because what should have happened to me, happened to someone else. In my situation right now, like Lorn, things are happening to me all at once, and it does get overwhelming. I just want to say, first off, Lorn, you're not alone... I feel the same way you do about depression, and I am going through some the same things you are but not 100% exactly like you.
Throughout my life, I've been used for the things I have, weither it be video games, or whatever. I used to be a top-notch student in school, so my parents would give me something if I did super good, thusly creating 'friendship' bonds between me and other people. They used to come over to my house ONLY for the video games and what-not. At that time, I didn't know I was being used like that. As I grew older, into like, middle school (junior high), I noticed people taking advantage of the way I did things for people because I like to help. I've been taught to really help out those in need and just do it from the heart. Hell, even my own school took advantage of that. But anyways, 2003 was a striking year for me and just shot me down over and over again.
In 2003, I suffered the loss of two pets, a grandmother, an aunt and a close old friend. They all died unfairly, in my opinion, and it was just a beginning. Now, I usually don't get too personal here, but for the reason I assume we're taking this thread seriously, here's a devistation for all kids: My parents have been having hard times, and it's been going on for a long, long time. My parents are literally on the brink of divorce, but as some may think, 'it's not so bad,' it's been going on for a little more than 6 years. My mom moved out of the house when I was about nine or ten because she and my dad needed 'space,' which really hurt me and sent me into probably the first huge depression stage. So for the next few years I tried to cope with it...
When I hit Freshman year in high school, everything in my life changed. Through out my life, I used to be the guy you could go to to talk or ask for help from. And all of a sudden, moving into high school, all of the changed, and I became the school's number one enemy. I'm not over-exadurating when I say this... Literally everyone in school singled me out. So in Freshman year, I was beat up, aggrovated, teased and shunned by school mates. Now in Sophomore year, all of that's increased, and now teachers are beginning to label me, and make me feel like crap. I even lost all the 'friends' I had. They disassociated themselves from even my own presents, and I've had to suffer sitting alone at lunch and at the reccess periods.
I could never go to my parents. They never understood. They think they do, but they don't. I don't think you can treat depression, as Lorn said. I mean, you can take medication, yeah, but medication doesn't perminantly solves the problem, in time it just makes you forget it, but at any time, it can come back. Again, like Lorn, everytime something nice happens to me, I get hit with something bad twice as hard, and it's usually in result to the good thing. People have no idea how much they mean to me, and unlike others, I take every conversation for all it's worth and more.
See, being shunned for a year dropped my social abilities so much, I can't carry on conversations anymore in person. I tend to blank out and I end up just going away or something. I can no longer look at people if I'm talking to them, and I can't even actually interact that well at all with others. Whenever someone greets me, I don't say anything back, maybe a small smirk or a nod, but that's all, and I feel guilty because I feel I shouldn't make it feel like I'm rejecting them. But then it's like, they don't know at the same time how much that greeting made me feel. Sometimes, there are days when I talk to absolutely no one, not even online, and I get really, really depressed, and then people tell me that I'm freaking insane. Which really helps me in no possible way. After calling me insane, they suggest I find people to talk to...
People have tried to help me. I've gone to a psychologist before, and he's told my parents and me that there was no way around my depression and I have to face it on my own. See, unlike a lot of depressed kids, I'm aware of all my actions even when I'm depressed, and calling hotlines and going to websites doesn't affect me because I already know everything that's said. They'll tell you "I know exactly how you feel; I went through the same thing," but it's not true. I mean, they haven't walked like you, talked like you, seen what you've seen, heard what you've heard, so how can they tell you that they know EXACTLY what you're going through? They can tell you they know about it, but not that they know the exact emotions.
Anyways, so in 2003, I suffered numerous deaths, been singled out by peers, and have major family problems. Why not be depressed? But for some reason, I keep fighting it. I fight the urge to end my life. It hit me even harder when my friend from long ago committed suicide. He did it for the similar reasons. After his death, my problems got worse, kids hurt me more physically and mentally, and I broke down and made some threats and sort of just blew my lid. I stayed home from school for the rest of the week that time, and when I returned to school, I was emotionless. What should have happened to me, happened to someone who deserved to live more than I did. He was a great person, and he had more going for him, but the depression got the best of him, and he decided to kill himself.
But my problems would have been better if they were parallel and never intersected, but recently they did. My mom's lack of care caused my future school career to shatter because of lack of parental support, so I asked to take a new step to get away from the problems. The step I took is what I hope, will end majority of the depression building up in my life. I can no longer stand being stared at and no one saying a word to me... It's so hurtful, and it sucks when people intentionally make fun of me and don't take me serious. I mean, even my own relatives think I'm a Satanic worshiper (they're heavy Christians) and don't allow me to eat with them. I have to eat OUTSIDE. Now tell me that isn't messed up.
For anyone who tells me to wait... As my Health teacher poorly put it, I want to die for a few months. It's been 6 f**king years, when do I get a damn break? I mean, kids think I'm a virus, adults think I'm useless, I need a break. The only thing that keeps me sane are people who have been there for me (who don't even live by me). The internet is my only safe haven (for more of the time), and in some ways, that's a bad sign, but I can't help it... I don't have many to turn to anymore. Also, it's hard to go on when your parents tell you they're beginning to give up on you :\. I don't blame them for thinking that way, but they don't need to tell me that...
Anyways, sorry to bring down so much negativity and a long fricken post, but when I get into it, I get into it.
I hope you guys find ways to deal with your depression. It's always good to talk about it. I am a good listener, so like, somehow get in contact with me, and I'd be more than happy to listen in on what's bugging you :). I've been around depression for so long, I know the feelings like the back of my palm, lol. Another way to try to patch up your depression, as much as you may hate it, associate yourself with comedy for awhile. For me, joking around with people kind of eases me up abit. Try it. As I just did. I laughed... With the "lol," you know... It might work wonders!
Keaton, that was very emotional... But remember, there will always be someone who will be there for you, you just have to find them.
Now, I don't know if this relates directly to depression, but I think that it fits in here more than any other thread
For 8 or so years, I have lived with an abusive stepfather. Not physically, but extremely mentally. Head games all the time and just all the other sh*t has really gotten to me. I no longer really care about anything, like my school subjects and I give up very easily on things. It turned me into an antisocial, low confident person. In grade 9, I almost blew up a teacher (flaming paper on road) - in attempts to make friends. From there I was at school less and less until I failed 5 of the 8 courses I was taking...
Up until I met Cassie, I was a real wreck, I would avoid people at all costs and I was very alone. The problem with the stepfather is still there. He lies and plays head games and gets me to the point where I start to believe him when he tells me I'm useless and worthless.
Everyone always says to get my mom to leave him and go fix our life
It's not that easy.
You see, over the last 8 years, he has put us into debt and wasted alot of money, always claiming to get his career off the ground. If we were to leave him, we would be left with nearly nothing, having to sell most of our posessions to pay off the debts.
I don't really know what else to say, but all I can do is give you people some advice. No matter what the circumstances, always look on the bright side, or do something away from your pain, and something that you can focus all your energy on
Anyway, I have to go now.
Good luck
Jamie
01-20-2004, 03:53 PM
Depression sucks. Period. I hate it.
Some pretty pointless things get me depressed. I've lost my best friend becuase I was a depressed illegitimate offspring of unmarried parents, well I think she's still my friend. I just don't know how to treat a girl properly. I have a girlfriend, she loves me, I love her. But I'm scared I'll lose her. When I think that, I get depressed. It all spirals out of control.
Aaron
01-20-2004, 07:03 PM
I've had my share of depression. And to me it was a giant slice of the cake, but to most, it would be nothing but a crumb.
If there is anything that I see as a big influence on depression. It's love. Think about it. Mothers, fathers, husbands, wifes, boyfriends, girlfriends.
When parents devorce, the child tends to become depressed.(I wouldn't know, but still, I've seen it.)
When parents fight, the child becomes depressed and curious whether his/her parents will get a divorce.
Boyfriends. Yes, we can act like total jackasses. First hand experiences, and hearing from some of my friends which happen to be women.
Girlfriends. When a girl breaks up with a boy. It hits, hard. If you think you aren't an emotional boy, guess again. this hits you with plenty of depression. and it's even worse if it's your first love. You never ever forget your first love.
If there's anything else that makes depression, it's dwelling on problems. If there's something you should do, do it. Don't just let it sit in your head and feast away at your brain. Your brain is not a buffet. It's a bad customer to this buffet, and you want to get rid of it.
Drugs are another root to depression, but I'm sure you've learned that in school or from your parents.
</end ramble>
I wouldn't be to keen on taking adive from me though. I have enough problems of my own, plus I have to keep watch for three girls I know and act as their psyciatrists. And lately, it's getting pretty hard taking care of my own problems while helping them out, maybe I should focus on mine for a while now.
Dedicated
01-20-2004, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Aaron@Jan 20 2004, 08:03 PM
Boyfriends. Yes, we can act like total jackasses. First hand experiences, and hearing from some of my friends which happen to be women.
Girlfriends. When a girl breaks up with a boy. It hits, hard. If you think you aren't an emotional boy, guess again. this hits you with plenty of depression. and it's even worse if it's your first love. You never ever forget your first love.
If there's anything else that makes depression, it's dwelling on problems. If there's something you should do, do it. Don't just let it sit in your head and feast away at your brain. Your brain is not a buffet. It's a bad customer to this buffet, and you want to get rid of it.
I totally agree with that...
Logan
01-20-2004, 09:40 PM
there is one bright side.
the harder your youth is
the more you can stand later
which means you can achieve more then person who's life has been rabbit's and roses
LornVourkolakas
01-20-2004, 10:03 PM
I'm not competing for depression. Hell, I'd give it all to you if I could. (Sorry. :lol:) It's just that, I don't need something big to me to happen in order for me to feel the things I do. If I had the courage, I would of been dead long ago by suicide. But instead, I just invite others to come and do the dead. I'm not saying I really want to die. I just at times want to get rid of all this. But as the days past by, the better it seems to get. (Not including 2003. :wth: ) Nowadays I'm seeing life in a whole new light, as they say. It's like... nothing's a big deal anymore. I mean, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger? (Aw ####, my problems kill me. :lol: ) Well, I meant now. Like, I'm not dying today. At least, I don't think... :wth: And since I don't know the day I die, I might as well live. I'm sick of depression and I'm sure all of you are. Having bad things happen to you really does take a toll. But that is life and what we have to do is move on. I know this now. And it's good I know this at the age I am, as well as all of you. You may lose a loved one, you may have been abused, you may have a desease. But you can't let that stop you from living life. You can't mourn forever. You were born to live. And live you must.
LPNeSSRGB
01-20-2004, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by LornVourkolakas@Jan 19 2004, 10:38 AM
I hate you people. (I mean this as no harm) You all get depressed for reasons that are actually worth getting depressed over. Don't get me? Let me explain:
See, most of you, from what I know, get depressed over things like, losing someone by death or having someone not feel for you the way you feel for them. While, I, just being myself, get depressed over the "little" things. I get depressed over not being said hello. If a friend is talking to someone I don't know. If that person I don't know doesn't bother to say hello, I end up thinking something is wrong with me. Back at Elementary, I was the kid who got into depression when I got one answer wrong in a spelling test. Do you know what that is like? Every little thing? How the hell can I live life like this? I get depressed over things said online. You have no idea how much you guys affect me. I'm surprised I haven't gone mad already. I can't imagine losing someone. I just know that will my limit. Once someone dies, that's it - I'm going mad. Just send me to the mental institution..
You're not crazy, I know EXACTLY how you feel...mainly I'm depressed now because I'm in love with one of my good friends (he knows it) and he is confusing me with the way he's acting...I know it doesn't sound like a lot but if you knew the whole story...but when he doesn't say hello to me, I get so freaked out and it's all I can think about it...and lots of other little things piss me off and depress the hell out of me. Luckily I've only ever been REALLY depressed for one period of my life...that was a TERRIBLE time...
I think it's really important for everyone to have someone to talk to...personally, talking to someone who cares about me can totally help me in ways I could never have imagined...when you're depressed it does feel like no one cares about you, but the good thing is that it's never as bad as you think it is...
Cassie
01-28-2004, 08:06 PM
I've had my bouts of depression. For two years I was never satisfied with the person looking back at me in the mirror. I was my own worse enemy, and I never learned to live in the skin I was given. I was extremely unhappy. I used to dwell on these thoughts and they consumed me. I transformed into a bitter and all-around angst-ridden kid my mother and some of my friends didn't recognize anymore. I would cut almost everyday to focus on anything else other than what I was feeling inside. I've attempted suicide twice, the first was when I was on a field trip in Grade 8. The other not so long ago, a week or so before this past Christmas. I took 5 of my mom's sleeping pills, and slashed my entire body with a razor. I totally regret that night and how it effected the people around me (like Neil) About a month ago I was on my last few limbs for any way out. Neil suggested I seriously talk to my mom. I did, and it was probably the most difficult thing I've endured. I now have my visits with the doctor weekly, and I'm looking into counseling. I have come to the conclusion that my state of depression was all in my head. The way I looked at the world (half-empty) and situations I've experienced. I truly believe talking to those around you is worth a try. You shouldn't have to bottle everything inside you. You never come a step closer to anything.
Andrea
01-28-2004, 08:18 PM
Everyone has it so much more worse than me, I've noticed. :unsure: I have had a lot of the same situations above happen to me. I'm never comfortable with who I am but I have to learn to accept it. I hope everyone can get through it.
Originally posted by Cassie@Jan 28 2004, 04:06 PM
I've had my bouts of depression. For two years I was never satisfied with the person looking back at me in the mirror. I was my own worse enemy, and I never learned to live in the skin I was given. I was extremely unhappy. I used to dwell on these thoughts and they consumed me. I transformed into a bitter and all-around angst-ridden kid my mother and some of my friends didn't recognize anymore. I would cut almost everyday to focus on anything else other than what I was feeling inside. I've attempted suicide twice, the first was when I was on a field trip in Grade 8. The other not so long ago, a week or so before this past Christmas. I took 5 of my mom's sleeping pills, and slashed my entire body with a razor. I totally regret that night and how it effected the people around me (like Neil) About a month ago I was on my last few limbs for any way out. Neil suggested I seriously talk to my mom. I did, and it was probably the most difficult thing I've endured. I now have my visits with the doctor weekly, and I'm looking into counseling. I have come to the conclusion that my state of depression was all in my head. The way I looked at the world (half-empty) and situations I've experienced. I truly believe talking to those around you is worth a try. You shouldn't have to bottle everything inside you. You never come a step closer to anything.
See...people, there is a way out. It took us some time and some trial and error things to work it out, but talking to someone and going to a doctor DOES help. I have never seen Cassie so happy on a day to day basis. It's really great. Because when she smiles, its the cutest thing I've ever seen :D
So remember, don't just sit there and dwell. Go DO something.
TeMpEsT
01-28-2004, 10:33 PM
I have that feeling sometimes, and it's like monthly thing for me (my friend call it my "Comma" since I'm a male :lol: ). How I get through it, is that I go for a run. I tell my parents this, and I don't tell them what my problem is (generally they don't care anyway :wth: ). Most of the time I just run as far as I can until I run out of breath, then sit down on a sidewalk or a curb and just think until I can run again. Sometimes I just think of the kids that punk me out in school and how bad I should punch them in the head, but I never make that decision. They're not worth it...
I don't know if this will help you, but it's what I do. ^_^
Glenn
01-29-2004, 12:32 AM
I hated life at the beginning of freshman year. I think I was a little depressed. I was defying my parents a lot. Everthing seemed confusing: school, life, friends. My parents thought I was doing drugs even though I wasn't, I never have. After a couple of months, I got used to life and got happy again :P
Hopefully all of your problems are solved very soon. Keep your head up and maybe time will heal your emotional wounds. :P :P :P :D
Suicide WON'T solve ANYTHING. DON'T DO IT!
I used to take short walks when I was mad, getting fresh air definately helps.
TeMpEsT
01-29-2004, 01:07 AM
Suicide doesn't work. Why kill yourself because your life sucks? So you can't have one? If it makes you happy...
Omar A
01-29-2004, 02:19 AM
This is a question to anyone who tried commiting Suicide
If you really hate your life and you want a change, than why not just runaway? That'll give you time to think about your life. And I bet you if you runaway, it won't take you more than 2 weeks till you realize that you need to go back and start a new beginning.
crazy_caos
01-29-2004, 02:35 AM
I think any person can suffered of depression on any point of life, when I was younger when I was depressed I used to hurt myself, now I know that it doesn't fix the feelings your a having in that moment, it just make you worst, I'm always thinking that I'm so alone, and I don't realized that i actully hurt ppl who cares about me, I don't have a great life, but after I realized that I was doing things in the wrong way, I start being a little bit optimist, I have a lot of problems with my family and everything, and in high school I was always in troubles, I get depressed a lot, but I tried to keep my mind away for hurt myself (again) :mellow:
emmmers
01-29-2004, 02:56 AM
Originally posted by Omar A@Jan 28 2004, 07:19 PM
This is a question to anyone who tried commiting Suicide
If you really hate your life and you want a change, than why not just runaway? That'll give you time to think about your life. And I bet you if you runaway, it won't take you more than 2 weeks till you realize that you need to go back and start a new beginning.
Honestly its the same reason why people dont commit suicide. They just cant bring themselves to do it. Its a large part due to cowardice. I've tried it before and got as far as the parking lot right outside the apartments. Depression is just something that everyone goes through, you'll get over it real soon. For me, it always hits while i'm on summer vacation probably cuz during school theres too many things that keep me busy.
TeMpEsT
01-29-2004, 04:34 AM
I ran away for a full night one time... :wth:
Cassie
01-29-2004, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Omar A@Jan 28 2004, 10:19 PM
This is a question to anyone who tried commiting Suicide
If you really hate your life and you want a change, than why not just runaway? That'll give you time to think about your life. And I bet you if you runaway, it won't take you more than 2 weeks till you realize that you need to go back and start a new beginning.
I was looking into running away as an option. But it had too many cons. Where would I go? Where would I end up? Would I be that much closer to my answers? Probably not. I always kinda figured if things got really bad I could walk to Neil's house (2 miles away) and hide in his closet. :lol: No, but just hide out for awhile until the stress and the emotions I was experiencing died down.
Hybrid Soldier
01-29-2004, 04:52 PM
let me just say this, commiting suicide is hard. :lol:
Cassie
01-29-2004, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Hybrid Soldier@Jan 29 2004, 12:52 PM
let me just say this, commiting suicide is hard. :lol:
Amen brother. :P
LornVourkolakas
01-29-2004, 05:56 PM
Especially with Mach3 protective bars around. :lol:
Cassie
01-29-2004, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by LornVourkolakas@Jan 29 2004, 01:56 PM
Especially with Mach3 protective bars around. :lol:
*lmao* Boo yes.
Radical Dreamer
01-29-2004, 07:03 PM
I get depressed sometimes too for no reason at all. In retrospect my life isn't all that bad. I have a great home and a good background so there's no reason for me to complain at all but sometimes I still feel like I'm lacking socially. I pretty much don't have a life, a best friend or a boyfriend. It's not deep depression though so I can always cheer myself up with music. :)
Do you guys want to know what I do when I'm feeling depressed?
Well, do you?
You've made it this far, I'm guessing that you do.
Well, here's what I do:
I go outside, stare at the sun and whack myself in the kneecap with a hammer.
Derek The Infamous
01-29-2004, 07:17 PM
Dork. :lol:
You made me scroll that far.
Hybrid Soldier
01-29-2004, 07:27 PM
silly derek, he's told us that already. :P
boredom=depression :lol:
TeMpEsT
01-29-2004, 08:22 PM
I beat my fists into bricks. I put a hole in my kitchen wall and one in my room. My parents don't care though, because they know I was pissed off. My brother kicked a door in once and they just had him replace it.
Yeah my parents are pretty cool with things like that. B)
Hybrid Soldier
01-29-2004, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by Vanil4_Intel@Jan 29 2004, 03:22 PM
I beat my fists into bricks. I put a hole in my kitchen wall and one in my room. My parents don't care though, because they know I was pissed off. My brother kicked a door in once and they just had him replace it.
Yeah my parents are pretty cool with things like that. B)
wow, they must be understanding, or just really nice.
TeMpEsT
01-29-2004, 08:31 PM
They don't know about the bricks but they do know about the walls, need to mention that. ^_^
theres this poster at school, that helps you recognise depression, some key things are
Weight Loss - Even when you eat normally
Insomnia - Lack of sleep
Weak - no energy, very lazy and cant do much each day
Stress - Continually stressed, usually causing tears
Death - thoughts of dying
i dont want to sound simpathetic, but i feel i suffer from all of the above, its weird, i dont feel like i wanna die, but i feel really down when i think about it, and i always worry about my future ect, i dunno, mayby its just me
TeMpEsT
01-30-2004, 09:35 PM
I guess you just worry too much?
I don't sleep much, but that's by choice. Usually I'm lucky to have 2-3 hours of sleep per night. ^_^
I don't really lose weight, because I work out and I'm skinny. When you're skinny and you work out every other day, you seem to GAIN weight day by day. It's odd.
I wouldn't say I'm stress, I think I'm just mellow. People say I look like a burnout but I don't smoke weed. :wth:
I've always thought of death since I was a kid, and it really never scared me. It's not that I fear death or I don't fear death, it's just that it's not a big point to me. I'm more afraid of losing other people around me.
Anthony.
01-31-2004, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Fred@Jan 30 2004, 11:27 AM
theres this poster at school, that helps you recognise depression, some key things are
Weight Loss - Even when you eat normally
Insomnia - Lack of sleep
Weak - no energy, very lazy and cant do much each day
Stress - Continually stressed, usually causing tears
Death - thoughts of dying
i dont want to sound simpathetic, but i feel i suffer from all of the above, its weird, i dont feel like i wanna die, but i feel really down when i think about it, and i always worry about my future ect, i dunno, mayby its just me
There's also :
Eating way too much.
Hypersomnia (or something like this) : Sleeping a lot, but not a good sleep.
Originally posted by Avenger+Jan 31 2004, 02:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Avenger @ Jan 31 2004, 02:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Mr. Fred@Jan 30 2004, 11:27 AM
theres this poster at school, that helps you recognise depression, some key things are
Weight Loss - Even when you eat normally
Insomnia - Lack of sleep
Weak - no energy, very lazy and cant do much each day
Stress - Continually stressed, usually causing tears
Death - thoughts of dying
i dont want to sound simpathetic, but i feel i suffer from all of the above, its weird, i dont feel like i wanna die, but i feel really down when i think about it, and i always worry about my future ect, i dunno, mayby its just me
There's also :
Eating way too much.
Hypersomnia (or something like this) : Sleeping a lot, but not a good sleep. [/b][/quote]
When I was depressed, I had all the symptoms, except for hypersomnia. My hair actually started falling out, I was practically shedding. I also had some really weird dreams involving me being poked to death by needles.... :chemist:
Andrea
01-31-2004, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Fred@Jan 30 2004, 11:27 AM
theres this poster at school, that helps you recognise depression, some key things are
Weight Loss - Even when you eat normally
Insomnia - Lack of sleep
Weak - no energy, very lazy and cant do much each day
Stress - Continually stressed, usually causing tears
Death - thoughts of dying
i dont want to sound simpathetic, but i feel i suffer from all of the above, its weird, i dont feel like i wanna die, but i feel really down when i think about it, and i always worry about my future ect, i dunno, mayby its just me
I suffer from all of those too. :mellow:
crazy_caos
01-31-2004, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by Avenger+Jan 31 2004, 02:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Avenger @ Jan 31 2004, 02:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Mr. Fred@Jan 30 2004, 11:27 AM
theres this poster at school, that helps you recognise depression, some key things are
Weight Loss - Even when you eat normally
Insomnia - Lack of sleep
Weak - no energy, very lazy and cant do much each day
Stress - Continually stressed, usually causing tears
Death - thoughts of dying
i dont want to sound simpathetic, but i feel i suffer from all of the above, its weird, i dont feel like i wanna die, but i feel really down when i think about it, and i always worry about my future ect, i dunno, mayby its just me
There's also :
Eating way too much.
Hypersomnia (or something like this) : Sleeping a lot, but not a good sleep. [/b][/quote]
ah¿? I sleep a lot, until 12:30 pm and when I wake up, it hurts me the whole body and gives me headache :mellow:
and the other thing well, I'm always stressed, but I don't cry, I don't eat to much, but it's because I'm always full, and yeah I'm very lazy, but it's because I inly have 4 days more of vacations so I have to be as lazy as I ca. and it's weird now, cause lately I'm not depressed as I was always.
Originally posted by LornVourkolakas@Jan 19 2004, 03:38 PM
I hate you people. (I mean this as no harm) You all get depressed for reasons that are actually worth getting depressed over.
I know what you mean. I feel kind dumb, since I've been through it twice and neither time has been such a huge thing. The first time, I found out I had some disease, but it was nothing serious. Not long ago, maybe a week ago, I was depressed because I felt that I wasn't getting anything out of life, every day is such a routine. I've noticed that whenever I feel depressed and get all those symptoms, I don't even realize it's happening, I'll just wonder why I feel this way until it hits me. I've taken a few days off school though, so I'm pretty much cured again. And it definetely helps to have people you can talk to about it. :D
but i cant tell if i have energy loss tho, cuz i have kidney stones, and now ive had it for so long, the other kidney has to do the work for 2, so i get exhausted really fast
Trish
01-31-2004, 09:30 AM
Well, this is something that I have had for a long time.
It all started when my mum and two sisters moved to a different state. Really far away. That was hard for me to handle because though I don't like my mum much, my sisters are everything. My best friends, my family, everything. When I got over that, another problem arose.
At school, my 'friends' all turned their backs on me because I changed. In attitude, interests and appearance. They didn't like me anymore, because they didn't want me to change. They wanted me to stay the same stereotypical b#tch I was.
There was also the stress of schoolwork, and there still is. I have a concentration problem and that stuffed up everything in my last 4 years of school.
Then it got to the point of injuring myself. The cuts on my arms. No one seemed to notice or care for the first few months. Then my english teacher noticed and made me see the school counsellor. Then the school counsellor made me see a doctor, and the doctor wanted me to a see a counsellor at the local health center because it was the school holidays and I wouldn't be able to see the school one. The counsellors didn't help at all, they seemed to make it all worse.
Then comes the one thing that can either make you happy, or screw up your life. Love. In love with someone I don't know, can't have, and who doesn't know me. Some of you may know who this is. Seeing him just killed me. But I had to see him. He was who I loved, but also who I admire alot. I would always break down and cry and not stop for hours.
I can say the other things aren't as bad now. But the love is now worse than ever.
Suicide, I can't say I haven't thought about it. But there is no way I would go through with it.
TeMpEsT
02-01-2004, 12:59 AM
I cause myself to depression. I think of depressing things that have happened to me through my life, and I let them to this day dwell on me. I try to forget the past, and try to look more towards my future.
LornVourkolakas
02-01-2004, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Fred@Jan 30 2004, 04:27 PM
theres this poster at school, that helps you recognise depression, some key things are
Weight Loss - Even when you eat normally
Insomnia - Lack of sleep
Weak - no energy, very lazy and cant do much each day
Stress - Continually stressed, usually causing tears
Death - thoughts of dying
i dont want to sound simpathetic, but i feel i suffer from all of the above, its weird, i dont feel like i wanna die, but i feel really down when i think about it, and i always worry about my future ect, i dunno, mayby its just me
I have all those. But I think it's normal to have those. It's just something everyone goes through.
I recently have been suffering mood changes. I've been very moody lately. Like, I'm really happy and than all the sudden I am down. It's probably just the pills.
Andrea
02-01-2004, 01:25 AM
Warning Signs:
1. Suicide Threats, direct or indirect
2. Obsession with death
3. Poems, essays, and drawing that refer to death
4. Dramatic change in personality or appearance
5. Irrational, bizarre behavior
6. Overwhelming sence of guilt, shame or reflection
7. Changed eating or sleeping patterns
8. Severe drop in school performance
9. Giving away belongings
Source: Natl. Mental Health Assn.
ehh...I like doing some research every now and then. Most of those associate with me but I don't get #9. :whistle: Weird...
Originally posted by EastCoastPunk@Jan 31 2004, 09:25 PM
Warning Signs:
1. Suicide Threats, direct or indirect
2. Obsession with death
3. Poems, essays, and drawing that refer to death
4. Dramatic change in personality or appearance
5. Irrational, bizarre behavior
6. Overwhelming sence of guilt, shame or reflection
7. Changed eating or sleeping patterns
8. Severe drop in school performance
9. Giving away belongings
Source: Natl. Mental Health Assn.
ehh...I like doing some research every now and then. Most of those associate with me but I don't get #9. :whistle: Weird...
If you have thoughts of depression, you would want to get rid of things around you that might cause you to be depressed. I think that is what number nine means.
LornVourkolakas
02-01-2004, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Will+Feb 1 2004, 02:31 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Will @ Feb 1 2004, 02:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--EastCoastPunk@Jan 31 2004, 09:25 PM
Warning Signs:
1. Suicide Threats, direct or indirect
2. Obsession with death
3. Poems, essays, and drawing that refer to death
4. Dramatic change in personality or appearance
5. Irrational, bizarre behavior
6. Overwhelming sence of guilt, shame or reflection
7. Changed eating or sleeping patterns
8. Severe drop in school performance
9. Giving away belongings
Source: Natl. Mental Health Assn.
ehh...I like doing some research every now and then. Most of those associate with me but I don't get #9. :whistle: Weird...
If you have thoughts of depression, you would want to get rid of things around you that might cause you to be depressed. I think that is what number nine means. [/b][/quote]
.... It can also mean that I want my loved ones to have a certain thing. Like, I may have a possession that is dear to me, but since I am thinking of suicide, I will not longer have use for it. So than I would want someone I love to have it. To remember me by, perhaps.
I seriously have all nine. But it doesn't matter. I wouldn't have to do the deed myself.
I used to cut myself. I know. Depression happens alot during a teenagers life. I literally HATE my father. But..you have to hold on. I bet almost %99 of people here on LPA know exactly what your talking about. ;)
TeMpEsT
02-01-2004, 01:43 AM
N-no... :mellow:
...Yes.
Trish
02-01-2004, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by EastCoastPunk@Feb 1 2004, 02:25 AM
Warning Signs:
1. Suicide Threats, direct or indirect
2. Obsession with death
3. Poems, essays, and drawing that refer to death
4. Dramatic change in personality or appearance
5. Irrational, bizarre behavior
6. Overwhelming sence of guilt, shame or reflection
7. Changed eating or sleeping patterns
8. Severe drop in school performance
9. Giving away belongings
Source: Natl. Mental Health Assn.
ehh...I like doing some research every now and then. Most of those associate with me but I don't get #9. :whistle: Weird...
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 but not nine...
I'm scared.
1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8..
Aaron
02-01-2004, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by EastCoastPunk@Jan 31 2004, 11:55 PM
Warning Signs:
1. Suicide Threats, direct or indirect
2. Obsession with death
3. Poems, essays, and drawing that refer to death
4. Dramatic change in personality or appearance
5. Irrational, bizarre behavior
6. Overwhelming sence of guilt, shame or reflection
7. Changed eating or sleeping patterns
8. Severe drop in school performance
9. Giving away belongings
Source: Natl. Mental Health Assn.
ehh...I like doing some research every now and then. Most of those associate with me but I don't get #9. :whistle: Weird...
Every one of those minus 1, 2, 5, and 9 are me. But I don't feel depressed. :wth: Weird. I think it's jsut the way I am these days, or maybe I'm just acting. Acting and making everybody think I'm happy. I just don't know and I could really care less. I used to have an obsession with death, but I don't anymore.
Originally posted by Aaron+Feb 1 2004, 02:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aaron @ Feb 1 2004, 02:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--EastCoastPunk@Jan 31 2004, 11:55 PM
Warning Signs:
1. Suicide Threats, direct or indirect
2. Obsession with death
3. Poems, essays, and drawing that refer to death
4. Dramatic change in personality or appearance
5. Irrational, bizarre behavior
6. Overwhelming sence of guilt, shame or reflection
7. Changed eating or sleeping patterns
8. Severe drop in school performance
9. Giving away belongings
Source: Natl. Mental Health Assn.
ehh...I like doing some research every now and then. Most of those associate with me but I don't get #9. :whistle: Weird...
Every one of those minus 1, 2, 5, and 9 are me. But I don't feel depressed. :wth: Weird. I think it's jsut the way I am these days, or maybe I'm just acting. Acting and making everybody think I'm happy. I just don't know and I could really care less. I used to have an obsession with death, but I don't anymore. [/b][/quote]
give me your belongings :chemist:
Aaron
02-01-2004, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Fred+Feb 1 2004, 10:41 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mr. Fred @ Feb 1 2004, 10:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Aaron@Feb 1 2004, 02:01 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--EastCoastPunk@Jan 31 2004, 11:55 PM
Warning Signs:
1. Suicide Threats, direct or indirect
2. Obsession with death
3. Poems, essays, and drawing that refer to death
4. Dramatic change in personality or appearance
5. Irrational, bizarre behavior
6. Overwhelming sence of guilt, shame or reflection
7. Changed eating or sleeping patterns
8. Severe drop in school performance
9. Giving away belongings
Source: Natl. Mental Health Assn.
ehh...I like doing some research every now and then. Most of those associate with me but I don't get #9.* :whistle: Weird...
Every one of those minus 1, 2, 5, and 9 are me. But I don't feel depressed. :wth: Weird. I think it's jsut the way I am these days, or maybe I'm just acting. Acting and making everybody think I'm happy. I just don't know and I could really care less. I used to have an obsession with death, but I don't anymore.
give me your belongings :chemist: [/b][/quote]
How about...no. :chemist: I want to keep my 'stuff' when I die... :chemist: But you don't know what this 'stuff' is.
Originally posted by EastCoastPunk@Feb 1 2004, 02:25 AM
Warning Signs:
1. Suicide Threats, direct or indirect
2. Obsession with death
3. Poems, essays, and drawing that refer to death
4. Dramatic change in personality or appearance
5. Irrational, bizarre behavior
6. Overwhelming sence of guilt, shame or reflection
7. Changed eating or sleeping patterns
8. Severe drop in school performance
9. Giving away belongings
Source: Natl. Mental Health Assn.
ehh...I like doing some research every now and then. Most of those associate with me but I don't get #9. :whistle: Weird...
1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and 8
Anthony.
02-01-2004, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by EastCoastPunk@Jan 31 2004, 09:25 PM
Warning Signs:
1. Suicide Threats, direct or indirect
2. Obsession with death
3. Poems, essays, and drawing that refer to death
4. Dramatic change in personality or appearance
5. Irrational, bizarre behavior
6. Overwhelming sence of guilt, shame or reflection
7. Changed eating or sleeping patterns
8. Severe drop in school performance
9. Giving away belongings
Source: Natl. Mental Health Assn.
ehh...I like doing some research every now and then. Most of those associate with me but I don't get #9. :whistle: Weird...
I only have 5 :lol: . I am weird :lol: .
If you have those symptoms, please do something. Don't stay there and say "#### it!", you really need help :mellow: ... You know, there's nothing to loose.
Originally posted by EastCoastPunk@Jan 31 2004, 09:25 PM
Warning Signs:
1. Suicide Threats, direct or indirect
2. Obsession with death
3. Poems, essays, and drawing that refer to death
4. Dramatic change in personality or appearance
5. Irrational, bizarre behavior
6. Overwhelming sence of guilt, shame or reflection
7. Changed eating or sleeping patterns
8. Severe drop in school performance
9. Giving away belongings
Source: Natl. Mental Health Assn.
ehh...I like doing some research every now and then. Most of those associate with me but I don't get #9. :whistle: Weird...
I have all of them. That's kinda...depressing right now if I think about it. :embarassed:
Andrea
02-01-2004, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Avenger@Feb 1 2004, 12:21 PM
If you have those symptoms, please do something. Don't stay there and say "#### it!", you really need help :mellow: ... You know, there's nothing to loose.
I know I need help. I don't need pieces of information about depression to tell me that I need help. It's obvious if you're depressed. The trouble that I have is stepping up to the plate and getting help. It's hard.
The Doctor
02-01-2004, 04:58 PM
I have depression, mostly all those symptoms, except for #9....
Im on medication for it, but when I miss a day I get so bad I scare people
Originally posted by EastCoastPunk+Feb 1 2004, 12:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (EastCoastPunk @ Feb 1 2004, 12:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Avenger@Feb 1 2004, 12:21 PM
If you have those symptoms, please do something. Don't stay there and say "#### it!", you really need help :mellow: ... You know, there's nothing to loose.
I know I need help. I don't need pieces of information about depression to tell me that I need help. It's obvious if you're depressed. The trouble that I have is stepping up to the plate and getting help. It's hard. [/b][/quote]
So do I. It's definently hard to get help when you need it but you gotta try. Try not to make any huge mistakes along the way. All you have to do is just push yourself to the limit.
Andrea
02-01-2004, 05:05 PM
I have this theory that pills don't work. I have always thought that. Don't ask me why. Seriously though, would pills really work? I don't see how a pill can make your problems go away, or better yet, help you cope with depression.
Anthony.
02-01-2004, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by EastCoastPunk@Feb 1 2004, 01:05 PM
I have this theory that pills don't work. I have always thought that. Don't ask me why. Seriously though, would pills really work? I don't see how a pill can make your problems go away, or better yet, help you cope with depression.
Depression is caused by a lack of a substance in your brain most often. That's why it helps.
Originally posted by EastCoastPunk@Feb 1 2004, 01:05 PM
I have this theory that pills don't work. I have always thought that. Don't ask me why. Seriously though, would pills really work? I don't see how a pill can make your problems go away, or better yet, help you cope with depression.
Depression is caused by a chemical imbalance, and the pills help to fix that imbalance.
Ever see those commercials with that weird rock with the face that's all sad? That's what that is. lol.
Terry Bradshaw (hoping some of you know who that is) was diagnosed with depression and he took medication and now he's perfectly fine.
Anthony.
02-01-2004, 06:09 PM
For a regular depression, Prozac seems to work well with a good therapy. I think the only type of depression totally related to a miss of chemical is bipolar/maniac depression.
Aaron
02-01-2004, 07:07 PM
If your depressed, there is obviously something in your life that's wrong, /andor bugging you. Most people I'd say just need to over come this. It's the best solution. But never, ever, try to fix things yourself. Never.
Derek The Infamous
02-01-2004, 07:47 PM
Yeah I go through it but I think everyone does, it's just a common thing and some people go through it harder than others. It's just something you cant let affect you in a negative way. You're in control of your life, nothing else.
Logan
02-01-2004, 08:34 PM
like i said before.
it will make you stronger
animal
02-02-2004, 06:00 PM
something happened to my post here :unsure:
anywayz i said i kind of like to be depressed. it makes me think of the past, present, and future which i like to do. :D
Andrea
02-02-2004, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by animal@Feb 2 2004, 02:00 PM
something happened to my post here :unsure:
anywayz i said i kind of like to be depressed. it makes me think of the past, present, and future which i like to do. :D
I don't know how you can like being depressed. Depression is definitely one of the worst feelings ever. I don't know anyone who actually likes being depressed. hmm...that's a first.
Anthony.
02-02-2004, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by animal@Feb 2 2004, 02:00 PM
something happened to my post here :unsure:
anywayz i said i kind of like to be depressed. it makes me think of the past, present, and future which i like to do. :D
Well this must not be a depression, just maybe loneliness(sp?)?
TeMpEsT
02-03-2004, 01:08 AM
I don't think that's depression, that's a feeling of euphoria you must be experiencing.
The Doctor
02-03-2004, 01:20 AM
They're right. Thats not depression. I have depression and its nothing to like.
Your not supposed to ENJOY depression. :lol:
If your depressed and you like it then obviously your not depressed. :mellow:
Hybrid Soldier
02-03-2004, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by Vanil4_Intel@Feb 2 2004, 08:08 PM
I don't think that's depression, that's a feeling of euphoria you must be experiencing.
what's euphoria?
The Doctor
02-03-2004, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by Hybrid Soldier+Feb 2 2004, 10:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hybrid Soldier @ Feb 2 2004, 10:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Vanil4_Intel@Feb 2 2004, 08:08 PM
I don't think that's depression, that's a feeling of euphoria you must be experiencing.
what's euphoria? [/b][/quote]
Basically the feeling of being stoned. Something like it. Dizziness, light headed-ness, occaisional hallucinations.
TeMpEsT
02-03-2004, 02:48 AM
Doesn't always involve drugs, though.
The Doctor
02-03-2004, 10:38 AM
I know, I just used it as an example. Mostly euphoria comes with a sense of happiness along with that, so OBVIOUSLY it cant be depression.
TeMpEsT
02-03-2004, 01:56 PM
Exactly. ^_^
I think guy is confused with the definition of "depression." Maybe he likes to act depressed? I don't know... :wth:
Ppr:Kut
02-03-2004, 02:39 PM
Depression was aboutta kill me! I'm serious.... bah... it's over now..
animal
02-03-2004, 04:19 PM
you guys are so silly! :lol:
The Doctor
02-03-2004, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by animal@Feb 3 2004, 12:19 PM
you guys are so silly! :lol:
Actually were serious. It IS possible for it despite popular belief. You obviously dont know what real depression is.
Nikki
02-03-2004, 05:18 PM
Deppression can lead to suicide - enough said.
I'm lucky I don't suffer from it - I'm too optimistic sometimes =P
animal
02-03-2004, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Nate+Feb 3 2004, 06:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nate @ Feb 3 2004, 06:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--animal@Feb 3 2004, 12:19 PM
you guys are so silly! :lol:
Actually were serious. It IS possible for it despite popular belief. You obviously dont know what real depression is. [/b][/quote]
there you go again..you guys are cool! :lol:
Andrea
02-03-2004, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by animal+Feb 3 2004, 01:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (animal @ Feb 3 2004, 01:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Nate@Feb 3 2004, 06:06 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--animal@Feb 3 2004, 12:19 PM
you guys are so silly! :lol:
Actually were serious. It IS possible for it despite popular belief. You obviously dont know what real depression is.
there you go again..you guys are cool! :lol: [/b][/quote]
I wonder if there's sarcasm in that. Depression isn't a joke.
The Doctor
02-03-2004, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by EastCoastPunk+Feb 3 2004, 04:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (EastCoastPunk @ Feb 3 2004, 04:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -animal@Feb 3 2004, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by -Nate@Feb 3 2004, 06:06 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--animal@Feb 3 2004, 12:19 PM
you guys are so silly! :lol:
Actually were serious. It IS possible for it despite popular belief. You obviously dont know what real depression is.
there you go again..you guys are cool! :lol:
I wonder if there's sarcasm in that. Depression isn't a joke. [/b][/quote]
It really isnt and Im sick of animal's attitude towards it.
withnoapologies
02-03-2004, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Will@Jan 19 2004, 04:42 AM
The first thing I have to say is this:
Suicide will solve nothing. Period. It's a permanent solution to a temporary problem. You might not think things will get better, but they will. If you constantly sit there and say things won't get better, then they won't get better.
I'm depressed sometimes, yeah. In fact, I haven't been all that happy for the past month or so. But I know that things won't always be bad. I've got my whole life in front of me. That's plenty of time to be happy. I'm only 16½. I can't expect things to be peachy all the time.
I'm not a social person. I've never had a girlfriend. I'm shy around girls. I don't really have much of a life. It makes me depressed, yeah, but I know that my future is ahead of me so I don't have to worry about feeling depressed all the time. I've never once thought about suicide, no matter how bad anything has ever gotten. Even if I never get married or never have kids or never have a good job, I'll never think about comitting suicide, because it's really not worth it.
I had a friend who thought no one cared about him and that no one loved him, so he killed himself. Come to find out, there were 2 girls that liked him (that he liked) that were just too shy to talk to him. So he killed himself for nothing. What good does that do? Nothing.
All you have to do is think positive.
you know Will, that could have been insulting to those whom are suicidal. they obviously are suffering and you are putting down their point of view..... another reason to commit suicide. next time you say that, i think you should be more subtle or something.
and for me.... I'm always depressed, especially these past few weeks. I was sexually abused when i was younger, my family is screwd up..... what would you say if you had two [known] alcoholics in your family?.... one sober, one constantly drunk. school is terrible, I have like two friends there, im not the most attractive, which leads to critisism. i talk about music there a lot, and thats "annoying." everything before last year i pretended to be someone else, so that i would be accepted.... i realized i wasnt happy like that, so i decided to act like myself, and because of the derastic change, my "real" self is really the poser trying to get attention.
actually, once at school, i accidentally dropped an open bottle of glue, and this popular guy told the supply teacher that i was just trying to get attention. its terrible. at least once a day i go through my funeral, who would be there, who would cry.... what not (funeral, as if i committed suicide the next day) and i dont think thats a good sign.
well, im rushed so enough of this.
Originally posted by withnoapologies@Feb 3 2004, 05:38 PM
you know Will, that could have been insulting to those whom are suicidal. they obviously are suffering and you are putting down their point of view..... another reason to commit suicide. next time you say that, i think you should be more subtle or something.
My post was actually directed toward Andrea's post, which was right before mine. :)
Andrea
02-03-2004, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by Will+Feb 3 2004, 05:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Will @ Feb 3 2004, 05:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--withnoapologies@Feb 3 2004, 05:38 PM
you know Will, that could have been insulting to those whom are suicidal. they obviously are suffering and you are putting down their point of view..... another reason to commit suicide. next time you say that, i think you should be more subtle or something.
My post was actually directed toward Andrea's post, which was right before mine. :) [/b][/quote]
...and I wasn't "insulted". :whistle:
Will's post and a lot of other posts here have really opened my eyes about this subject.
animal
02-03-2004, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by Nate+Feb 3 2004, 09:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nate @ Feb 3 2004, 09:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -EastCoastPunk@Feb 3 2004, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by -animal@Feb 3 2004, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by -Nate@Feb 3 2004, 06:06 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--animal@Feb 3 2004, 12:19 PM
you guys are so silly! :lol:
Actually were serious. It IS possible for it despite popular belief. You obviously dont know what real depression is.
there you go again..you guys are cool! :lol:
I wonder if there's sarcasm in that. Depression isn't a joke.
It really isnt and Im sick of animal's attitude towards it. [/b][/quote]
why you being so mean? :(
i just think you guys are cool and i wanna be friends :unsure:
Originally posted by animal@Feb 3 2004, 06:54 PM
why you being so mean? :(
i just think you guys are cool and i wanna be friends :unsure:
Well, you're failing right now.
We're being mean because you treated this situation like it was funny, and it's NOT funny.
LornVourkolakas
02-03-2004, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by EastCoastPunk+Feb 3 2004, 10:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (EastCoastPunk @ Feb 3 2004, 10:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Will@Feb 3 2004, 05:41 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--withnoapologies@Feb 3 2004, 05:38 PM
you know Will, that could have been insulting to those whom are suicidal. they obviously are suffering and you are putting down their point of view..... another reason to commit suicide. next time you say that, i think you should be more subtle or something.
My post was actually directed toward Andrea's post, which was right before mine. :)
...and I wasn't "insulted". :whistle:
Will's post and a lot of other posts here have really opened my eyes about this subject. [/b][/quote]
Will's post made me want to kill myself. *Dies* But seriously, people could take Will's post wrong. Someone who was contemplating death may have read that and felt even lower and actually killed themselves in result of reading that. :\
Originally posted by LornVourkolakas@Feb 3 2004, 07:00 PM
Will's post made me want to kill myself. *Dies* But seriously, people could take Will's post wrong. Someone who was contemplating death may have read that and felt even lower and actually killed themselves in result of reading that. :\
I don't see how. Can you explain it to me? lol.
LornVourkolakas
02-03-2004, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Will+Feb 4 2004, 12:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Will @ Feb 4 2004, 12:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--LornVourkolakas@Feb 3 2004, 07:00 PM
Will's post made me want to kill myself. *Dies* But seriously, people could take Will's post wrong. Someone who was contemplating death may have read that and felt even lower and actually killed themselves in result of reading that. :\
I don't see how. Can you explain it to me? lol. [/b][/quote]
*Kills your lol* Mwuahahha.
Well, what you got to understand is that some suicidal people tend to be sensitive. They'll take your words as a way of you dissing them or something. I know you didn't. But, from experience, suicidal people tend to read too into what people say/write.
Originally posted by LornVourkolakas@Feb 3 2004, 07:05 PM
*Kills your lol* Mwuahahha.
Well, what you got to understand is that some suicidal people tend to be sensitive. They'll take your words as a way of you dissing them or something. I know you didn't. But, from experience, suicidal people tend to read too into what people say/write.
That's kind of weird seeing as how I said that everything would eventually get better no matter what. :lol:
LornVourkolakas
02-03-2004, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by Will+Feb 4 2004, 12:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Will @ Feb 4 2004, 12:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--LornVourkolakas@Feb 3 2004, 07:05 PM
*Kills your lol* Mwuahahha.
Well, what you got to understand is that some suicidal people tend to be sensitive. They'll take your words as a way of you dissing them or something. I know you didn't. But, from experience, suicidal people tend to read too into what people say/write.
That's kind of weird seeing as how I said that everything would eventually get better no matter what. :lol: [/b][/quote]
Will.. depressed people are weird at times. ;) Trust me, I know. ;)
Originally posted by LornVourkolakas@Feb 3 2004, 07:08 PM
Will.. depressed people are weird at times. ;) Trust me, I know. ;)
I guess I'll take your word for it.
I apologize to anyone whom I may have offended.
Hybrid Soldier
02-04-2004, 01:14 AM
so if you're enjoying depression, you're not depressed?
The Doctor
02-04-2004, 01:15 AM
If youre enjoying depression you dont have it. :lol:
Hybrid Soldier
02-04-2004, 01:17 AM
can you be addicted to depression?
The Doctor
02-04-2004, 01:18 AM
I really dont think so.....unless youre a massochist or something
animal
02-04-2004, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by Will+Feb 4 2004, 12:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Will @ Feb 4 2004, 12:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--LornVourkolakas@Feb 3 2004, 07:08 PM
Will.. depressed people are weird at times. ;) Trust me, I know. ;)
I guess I'll take your word for it.
I apologize to anyone whom I may have offended. [/b][/quote]
you didn't offend me! :)
Hybrid Soldier
02-04-2004, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Nate@Feb 3 2004, 08:18 PM
I really dont think so.....unless youre a massochist or something
whats a massochist?
The Doctor
02-04-2004, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by Hybrid Soldier+Feb 3 2004, 09:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hybrid Soldier @ Feb 3 2004, 09:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Nate@Feb 3 2004, 08:18 PM
I really dont think so.....unless youre a massochist or something
whats a massochist? [/b][/quote]
a person who likes inflicting pain to themselves, whether physical or mental
erasethepain
02-04-2004, 02:29 AM
I don't like using terms like being depressed, because it's way too common. Depression is serious and I feel like you shouldn't say it just because you feel down for a little while.
I've been the way I am for a year and a half. It started off with me being put into the hospital with an overspill. Yes, I know, some of you may be grossed - but you probably don't understand that it's not controlable a lot of the time. It just happens. Turned out, I had the worst case my doctor had ever seen. It took a lot out of me and still affects me a year and a half later. I can't hang out with my friends or go to school a lot of times due to this. It's extremely uncomfortable and it triggers depression.
After I got out of the hospital, I knew people found out and I was very ashamed of the whole thing. I started to get a lot more emotional and just got sick of being pushed around by everybody because of it. I'm very shy and I've never really had a relationship with a girl since elementary school. My parents and I weren't getting alone and it wouldn't help that every bully at school reminded me exactly of what my father had done to me. Awhile afterwards, I thought I had an herna. I kept it in for a long time and let it bother me. Eventually, I told my parents and it turned out that it was just part of my problem with my bowels. It wasn't a real herna, just the discomfort from my bowels.
By this time, I tried to go after girls. I hadn't been very social or anything for years before. I never cared. I was always sheltered and now that I had tried to do stuff I should have known to do, I ####ed it up. I didn't know how to approach a girl - any girl that had an interest in me quickly changed her mind after I talked to her. I didn't have a very good self-esteem because I kept embarassing myself in front of everybody with my lack of knowing how to do just about anything in life.
My grandfather went on to molest my sister, which pretty much tore my social life apart. He was my best friend up until that point, and I didn't know how to back to that - I felt betrayed. So, basically he was pushed out of my life. It really hurt. I had a very close relationship with him. Later on, my other grandparents were pushed away for certain reasons. I was basically distant from everybody. When I go to school, I just sit there and look high and depressed. People will push me around for fun, and I'll just stand there because I don't have the confidence. I just let things wash aside and let them stomp away at my pride.
So, basically, I'm at the same point I was a year ago. No girlfriend - when girls like me, I puss out and they find someone else. No real social life - I always try to get away from my friends to be alone because I don't like doing social stuff that much anymore because I feel so down when I do. I'm talking to my grandparents - but I feel sick for doing so. I can't talk to them, my cousions or even my dad without feeling uncomfortable or insecure around them. I havent even did anything wrong but I feel that way around them. So I lie my way from them.
I had a friend who thought no one cared about him and that no one loved him, so he killed himself. Come to find out, there were 2 girls that liked him (that he liked) that were just too shy to talk to him. So he killed himself for nothing. What good does that do? Nothing.
All you have to do is think positive.
That may not seem big to others, but that was pretty deep to me. Especially, since me and you have a lot in common.
Trish
02-04-2004, 09:18 AM
Man, it's weird, and I'm confused.
I know I'm not alone with all this, but yet, I can't help feeling alone in it all. People at school are not the same as me, it feels as if I'm the only one.
That makes me even more depressed.
withnoapologies
02-04-2004, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by LornVourkolakas+Feb 4 2004, 12:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (LornVourkolakas @ Feb 4 2004, 12:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -EastCoastPunk@Feb 3 2004, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by -Will@Feb 3 2004, 05:41 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--withnoapologies@Feb 3 2004, 05:38 PM
you know Will, that could have been insulting to those whom are suicidal. they obviously are suffering and you are putting down their point of view..... another reason to commit suicide. next time you say that, i think you should be more subtle or something.
My post was actually directed toward Andrea's post, which was right before mine. :)
...and I wasn't "insulted". :whistle:
Will's post and a lot of other posts here have really opened my eyes about this subject.
Will's post made me want to kill myself. *Dies* But seriously, people could take Will's post wrong. Someone who was contemplating death may have read that and felt even lower and actually killed themselves in result of reading that. :\ [/b][/quote]
thats exactly why i said that to Will, i was saying that for everyone, i hate it when people say those kinds of things, just hate it, thats why, when i listen to "The Thirteenth Step" by A Perfect Circle, i always skip The Outsider... i know they are right, but i am not ready to hear it from a band, i want to hear it from myself when i decide if life is or is not worth living. if you are suicidal, you dont want to hear that your point of view is wrong or anything, you need support
LornVourkolakas
02-06-2004, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by withnoapologies@Feb 4 2004, 10:01 PM
thats exactly why i said that to Will, i was saying that for everyone, i hate it when people say those kinds of things, just hate it, thats why, when i listen to "The Thirteenth Step" by A Perfect Circle, i always skip The Outsider... i know they are right, but i am not ready to hear it from a band, i want to hear it from myself when i decide if life is or is not worth living. if you are suicidal, you dont want to hear that your point of view is wrong or anything, you need support
Yeah, support. The same way boobies need support. But you're right, in my opinion.
Cassie
02-08-2004, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by EastCoastPunk@Jan 31 2004, 09:25 PM
Warning Signs:
1. Suicide Threats, direct or indirect
2. Obsession with death
3. Poems, essays, and drawing that refer to death
4. Dramatic change in personality or appearance
5. Irrational, bizarre behavior
6. Overwhelming sence of guilt, shame or reflection
7. Changed eating or sleeping patterns
8. Severe drop in school performance
9. Giving away belongings
Source: Natl. Mental Health Assn.
ehh...I like doing some research every now and then. Most of those associate with me but I don't get #9. :whistle: Weird...
All 9.
Phantom Duck
02-08-2004, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by Cassie+Feb 8 2004, 07:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cassie @ Feb 8 2004, 07:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--EastCoastPunk@Jan 31 2004, 09:25 PM
Warning Signs:
1. Suicide Threats, direct or indirect
2. Obsession with death
3. Poems, essays, and drawing that refer to death
4. Dramatic change in personality or appearance
5. Irrational, bizarre behavior
6. Overwhelming sence of guilt, shame or reflection
7. Changed eating or sleeping patterns
8. Severe drop in school performance
9. Giving away belongings
Source: Natl. Mental Health Assn.
ehh...I like doing some research every now and then. Most of those associate with me but I don't get #9. :whistle: Weird...
All 9. [/b][/quote]
None. :mellow:
LornVourkolakas
02-08-2004, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by P#@nt0m Du(k+Feb 8 2004, 07:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (P#@nt0m Du(k @ Feb 8 2004, 07:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Cassie@Feb 8 2004, 07:41 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--EastCoastPunk@Jan 31 2004, 09:25 PM
Warning Signs:
1. Suicide Threats, direct or indirect
2. Obsession with death
3. Poems, essays, and drawing that refer to death
4. Dramatic change in personality or appearance
5. Irrational, bizarre behavior
6. Overwhelming sence of guilt, shame or reflection
7. Changed eating or sleeping patterns
8. Severe drop in school performance
9. Giving away belongings
Source: Natl. Mental Health Assn.
ehh...I like doing some research every now and then. Most of those associate with me but I don't get #9.* :whistle: Weird...
All 9.
None. :mellow: [/b][/quote]
You're not depressed ! You're not cool ! *Kicks phantom duck* J/k. :P
TeMpEsT
02-09-2004, 02:24 AM
Caught in love again. :unsure:
ass_kicker
02-09-2004, 04:11 PM
you guys... everybody here who thinks about suicide - dont go. listen to hold on by good charlotte. the song makes me cry. it goes
"hold on if you feel like letting go
hold on it gets better than you know"
please hold on. i know its hard. and i know it wont get better. and it will probably get worse every day... but stay here with me.
"im here hold on to me
im right here waiting
and take my last breath but dont forget
that ill be right here, waiting."
please hold on. cos i know whats it like to be the one to survive, i know whats it like to be left behind... stay here with me.
numbfuse
02-09-2004, 07:32 PM
The video for Hold on changed my perspective on depression and suicide etc...made me realize that it's not worth it unless you'd intentionally want to cause pain over your loved ones.
i haven't gone through half the bad things that most of you have....no offense...but I can truly say that i've had my share of unfortunate things in my life. All at the age of 7.....and I doubt any 7 year old should go through a divorce, as well as 5 deaths. all around the same time....later much all.
Originally posted by Will+Feb 3 2004, 07:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Will @ Feb 3 2004, 07:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--withnoapologies@Feb 3 2004, 05:38 PM
you know Will, that could have been insulting to those whom are suicidal. they obviously are suffering and you are putting down their point of view..... another reason to commit suicide. next time you say that, i think you should be more subtle or something.
My post was actually directed toward Andrea's post, which was right before mine. :) [/b][/quote]
I don't know how encouraging people to live their lives and not commit suicide will push them farther.
Andrea
02-09-2004, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by ass_kicker@Feb 9 2004, 12:11 PM
you guys... everybody here who thinks about suicide - dont go. listen to hold on by good charlotte. the song makes me cry. it goes
"hold on if you feel like letting go
hold on it gets better than you know"
please hold on. i know its hard. and i know it wont get better. and it will probably get worse every day... but stay here with me.
Hold On is like my anthem or something. The video and the song has had an impact on me.
ass_kicker
02-10-2004, 03:32 PM
the video is very good. and it doesnt show you the people who just say "oh, think positive" over and over again... it helps, cos you see how the left behind people feel. and i think thats what its all about. stay here for others...
withnoapologies
02-11-2004, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Mark+Feb 9 2004, 09:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mark @ Feb 9 2004, 09:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Will@Feb 3 2004, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--withnoapologies@Feb 3 2004, 05:38 PM
you know Will, that could have been insulting to those whom are suicidal. they obviously are suffering and you are putting down their point of view..... another reason to commit suicide. next time you say that, i think you should be more subtle or something.
My post was actually directed toward Andrea's post, which was right before mine. :)
I don't know how encouraging people to live their lives and not commit suicide will push them farther. [/b][/quote]
i dont know how telling people up front and rudely that suicide is a bad idea will stop them from it.
also, i do not intend to insult anyones feelings toward good charlotte or how Hold On has affected their life, but i dont think that those lyrics are any good... yes i give them support for writing about that topic, but i think it was to a terrible approach. my reasoning:
1)the only reason they give for not commiting suicide is for the people around them will get sad
2)"We all bleed the same way as you do. We all have the same things to go through, hoooooooooollllllld on." that is saying that Mr. persuasive guy (lets call him fritz) has gone through the same things as Mr. suicidal person ( lets call him Lee). saying that since, i, fritz have felt the same as you, Lee, but still do not end my life, you, Lee, should also not commit suicide. (has anyone ever heard of people feeling a different ways towards issues?)
im too lazy right now to come up with any other reasons.
Andrea
02-11-2004, 11:04 PM
withnoapologies - I do not follow on what you said. Maybe it's because I am tired or something. :mellow:
Benji and Joel wrote Hold On because they have had close friends who have committed suicide. Good Charlotte has received lots of fan mail from people who are struggling with depression and are looking to resort to suicide. They made that song as a way to help people cope and get help for their problems before it's too late. I believe Good Charlotte has done a great job of addressing the issue of depression and suicide.
I don't want to start a fight or anything but I really don't see how it's a terrible approach when in fact the song and video is helping people.
withnoapologies
02-12-2004, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by EastCoastPunk@Feb 12 2004, 12:04 AM
withnoapologies - I do not follow on what you said. Maybe it's because I am tired or something. :mellow:
Benji and Joel wrote Hold On because they have had close friends who have committed suicide. Good Charlotte has received lots of fan mail from people who are struggling with depression and are looking to resort to suicide. They made that song as a way to help people cope and get help for their problems before it's too late. I believe Good Charlotte has done a great job of addressing the issue of depression and suicide.
I don't want to start a fight or anything but I really don't see how it's a terrible approach when in fact the song and video is helping people.
AH....i expected this.... where shall i start....:thumbsup:
i think that the lyrics were a terrible approach because i think it was giving people the wrong idea, trust me, i was extremely insulted when i heard that song. if you look back at my point when i made a quote from the song, "But we all bleed the same way as you do, and we all have the same things to go through" i found that line one of the most insulting things ever, saying that because I have this approach to an issue, you must also, there is no need for acting in that such way..... but i dont know, i respond to lyrics in the weirdest kind of fashion.
being suicidal myself (ive set up dates, havent followed through yet [key word: yet]), i like the suicidal songs that are of the suicidal person's point of view(red hot chili peppers, under the bridge, linkin park breaking the habit) that way i can understand what that person was feeling at the time, and pick out the lines that relate to me, that way i realize that suicide shouldnt be done at the time.
i have told several people my reasonings for not liking hold on and they all think i'm crazy, whatever.... i am. :wacko:
i am not trying to insult anyone who has decided against suicide because of that song, i'm just saying that the song didn't swing me. i am also very happy that a band such as Good Charlotte could write of suicide and it makes an impact on several people.yipee!
ass_kicker
02-12-2004, 03:04 PM
i guess you have a point, and i dont like that line either. im talking about "we all bleed the same way as you do, we all have the same things to go through" line... its just that no, we dont go through the same things.
Trish
02-13-2004, 09:29 AM
Time and time again, LP's music saved my life.
But not today, I won't go into detail with the fear of being called at teenie, but today, they almost ended my life.
ass_kicker
02-13-2004, 05:24 PM
why? its alright.
Cassie
02-13-2004, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by J Money@Feb 3 2004, 10:29 PM
I don't like using terms like being depressed, because it's way too common. Depression is serious and I feel like you shouldn't say it just because you feel down for a little while.
I couldn't have said it better myself. :)
[Fool]
02-13-2004, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Cassie+Feb 13 2004, 09:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cassie @ Feb 13 2004, 09:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--J Money@Feb 3 2004, 10:29 PM
I don't like using terms like being depressed, because it's way too common. Depression is serious and I feel like you shouldn't say it just because you feel down for a little while.
I couldn't have said it better myself. :) [/b][/quote]
:withstupid: :thumbsup: all my freinds think thier depressed wen there not i jst tell them to shut the f**K up and get on with life cuz they are oviously not depressed, i only have one friend that is properly depressed.
limited_edition
02-26-2004, 08:25 PM
well im depressed as well...i have had to see doctors bout it i was put on tablets and have had to move skools my friends have gone against me and are saying horrible things like "get a life" and stuff like that but cant say here..... all i do in a day is, wake up, go to skool, get home from skool, eat, come on pc for ages then go to bed like at 11pm (because my dad has a go at me) i have nothing to do because i have no friends (no really i have about 3) but i do go to a skool with 12people in it, i feel unhappy all the time, i was happy today which is good (last time i was happy was christmas) but this girl has really upset me and i just wish people would get on with me...i got builled alot at school and had to move quite a few times (bout 4-5) because i was unhappy...i hate school because theres lots of people there,but i really like doing the work im just upset all the time i have wanted to commit suicide....i need some one to talk to who isnt gonna be horrible to me i havent done much it the past year thats been fun....any one wanna talk
sorry bout it being alot but its a start to how much i feel D
just remember smile
ass_kicker
02-27-2004, 07:34 AM
ok... so now tell me, whats better. you either be your normal self and you dont smile... or you fake the smiles. im not talking about lpa, i think im asking about parents and crap.
HARLEYsheXda
02-27-2004, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by Cassie+Feb 13 2004, 09:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cassie @ Feb 13 2004, 09:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--J Money@Feb 3 2004, 10:29 PM
I don't like using terms like being depressed, because it's way too common. Depression is serious and I feel like you shouldn't say it just because you feel down for a little while.
I couldn't have said it better myself. :) [/b][/quote]
depression is something that's out of control... out of ur own willingness... continuous, haunted, unmanageable... u'd feel like s**t that everything that's right to others seems wrong to u... i agree with J-Flex that feeling "disgust" over something for a little while is not a depression... (depress: when u feel like screaming but u realize u cant, but how much u want the pain to get out from ur body, u try to scream again but the disappointment just trapped inside ur body, blindly, all that's left is despair and when u barely overcome it, instead of seeking help, u keep nurturing it 'coz u lost faith in something or someone...)
when i feel "overdosed" by the same situation, over and over again i'd rather call it 'numb' rather than depress... (though i'm ailing that bad...) sensitive yet emotional people tend to "depress" a lot... to us they're normal person but they are not to themselves... sometimes they might say ridiculous thing like hating themselves, hurting themselves and all the crazy things they'd involved into... sometimes picking on someone else is their skills that they find peace by manipulating it on others!!... they'd drag u with their hatred but this isn't necessarily true...
just look at the examples; a depression facing by a friend whose parents died in a car accident... he's always in oblivion, he hardly changes his clothes, wearing almost the same shirt for at least a week until someone told him to change it... it's not that he wanted to be like that, but because he's being carried away by his emotions, that "silent killer" inside him, that sometimes he doesn't realize doing this kind of things... but to us, his friends, he's obviously is depress...
i'm not good at giving advice... remember? i'm numb...
ass_kicker
02-27-2004, 10:18 AM
i'm not good at giving advice... remember? i'm numb... of course youre good at giving advice. so is everybody.
all my freinds think thier depressed wen there not i jst tell them to shut the f**K up and get on with life cuz they are oviously not depressed
i was thinking about what you said... and i have a good point to make. i dont want to sound rude. i just want to give you a tip. im not telling you what to do though. just think about it. if a person really is depressed... and their best friend, or just friend, keeps on saying they should just get on with their lives... well thats not exactly helping them, is it... but then again i dont know your friends. but i know sometimes all you want is to have someone who would just say "yeah, youre right, life is totally ####... i cant believe this happened to you... how could they do something like that" and so on.
some people do want you to feel sorry for them. maybe thats all your friends want... i dont know. im brainstorming. tell me what you think.
and this is a question to everybody... whats the difference between being, as thefoolindauk said, properly and not properly depressed? i dont get it. you either have depression, or you dont...
HARLEYsheXda
03-02-2004, 01:52 PM
...i always telling others as well as myself to think positively especially towards handling problems but when i'm at it i dont think i can handle it well myself... and i tend to drag people into my problems which i think is not a very smart moves!!... but i try to avoid that really hard that sometimes i dont feel like connecting to others... the rejection and all, it's just too much...
...but at other time i just feel like kicking someone's a** for not giving me the chance for saying what's on my mind...i hate it when people says thing like "the problem is not big but i think ur just exaggerating..." like they're controlling u and what u do... i mean, WTF!! i'm like, "dont underestimate my feelings, man... i hurt and i feel like i can kill u right now!!"
some people!! :wth:
Cassie
03-02-2004, 05:43 PM
What irks me is when people treat depression like it's a run of the mill emotion. Depression is a disease. You can be medicated like a disease. Just because someone has an off day, doesn't mean you're doomed to live hopeless forever.
ass_kicker
03-03-2004, 10:03 AM
yep i get your point cassies. but then again its stupid when people think somebody is faking a depression. thats just bulshit. so i guess it should be somewhere in the middle - like if somebody's sad for one day, doesnt mean they're depressed, but if somebody had been feeling down for some time, maybe they need someone who can talk to them. i have a point.
Andrea
03-04-2004, 08:57 PM
Today I left school early because I was in a really bad state of depression. I felt really on the verge to do something that I would've regreted. I was so sick and tired of feeling like this that I finally went to the doctors. I told my doctor about everything that has been on my mind and everything that has been bothering me. She did diagnose me with Depression (no surprise there). She also said I have low blood sugar. I don't eat enough nor do I sleep enough and that's why I have low blood sugar. I get dizzy a lot because of that. I got prescribed some medication for my depression. I will probably get it filled tomorrow and then start taking the pills. My doctor also recommended counseling but I don't really know if I should do that or not. I am not sure if that will help me at all. Anyone ever been to counseling?
I feel like a weight has been lifted since I told everything to my doctor. I guess I should've done that a while ago. I just hope the pills that I will be taking will work. I can't stand being an emotional wreck anymore and hopefully those pills will make me feel better.
I just thought I would share that. :chemist:
evil willow
03-05-2004, 11:52 AM
i'm sorry to hear u felt so bad... but i'm glad u went to the doctor.
i go to a psychologist once/twice a week. it isn't that bad, alltho they still don't have a 'diagnose' or whatever (it already took 4 months, and that is suppose to be FAST). so it's just talking and more talking. but if u felt better talking to ur doctor, then why not seeing a couselor sometime. u can try right? it's not something you are forced to do.
i hope everything will work out for you :)
Syphon
03-05-2004, 03:12 PM
i dont think i have depression but it seems that after every time im happy i just end up going into a state of complete apathy. its really bad, i just dont give a F### bout nething. this was really bad when i was in year 7 cause all my friends i'd had all the way through school started to hate me, they completely ignored me. i still dont know why. newayz so for that year i was mostly alone. it got better when i went to highschool cause although i had no people i knew going to that school i became friends with a girl who's really into the same stuff as me. it was realy good for me i think. but recently its getting worse again. i dont reveal my "real self" at school cause people would probably think i was crazy, the only person who knows me really is my best friend but dont even talk her about my feelings or lack of feeling cause i have always been a very antisocial and private person, i find it very hard to open up. i definately cant talk to my family bout it, theyd just think i was crazy or sumthin, like when recently we thought my grandpa had cancer and everyone was lookin at me wierd cause i didnt break down and cry or nething. i didnt know what i felt, i didnt really feel nething, i mean i cant do nething about it so...
the one thing that does help is music, music helps me feel for things. esp lp songs.
ass_kicker
03-05-2004, 07:08 PM
yeah i understand syphon... music is the only thing you can fully trust.
Syphon
03-06-2004, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by ass_kicker@Mar 6 2004, 04:08 AM
yeah i understand syphon... music is the only thing you can fully trust.
thanx, it good to know someone else understands how i feel.
limited_edition
03-06-2004, 01:15 AM
i have been on anti-depressents before just stopped taking them, i went to a psychologist and it helped. you can tell them your worrys and problems and they talk to you about things. I would go and if you dont like it just say your uncomforatable... but i would go as it helped me get through alot... :D
TeMpEsT
03-06-2004, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by limited_edition@Mar 6 2004, 02:15 AM
i have been on anti-depressents before just stopped taking them, i went to a psychologist and it helped. you can tell them your worrys and problems and they talk to you about things. I would go and if you dont like it just say your uncomforatable... but i would go as it helped me get through alot... :D
Sometimes friends or family work too, but if they've abandoned you that's a good idea.
Ppr:Kut
03-06-2004, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by ass_kicker@Mar 5 2004, 10:08 PM
yeah i understand syphon... music is the only thing you can fully trust.
so true so true
ass_kicker
03-06-2004, 07:44 PM
can somebody help me? i kind of dont know what to ****ing do. well. i started taking anti-depressants without even knowing what i was taking... and now my "parents" force me to take them every morning and i just dont want to... so i dont know what to do. i have no point.
Chris(tmas)
03-06-2004, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by ass_kicker@Mar 6 2004, 09:44 PM
can somebody help me? i kind of dont know what to ****ing do. well. i started taking anti-depressants without even knowing what i was taking... and now my "parents" force me to take them every morning and i just dont want to... so i dont know what to do. i have no point.
Sounds harsh but, take it. Maybe only way you can go on happy :)
Cassie
03-07-2004, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by ass_kicker@Mar 6 2004, 03:44 PM
can somebody help me? i kind of dont know what to ****ing do. well. i started taking anti-depressants without even knowing what i was taking... and now my "parents" force me to take them every morning and i just dont want to... so i dont know what to do. i have no point.
Hey Katies, there is a point to your post. I would suggest continuing the anti-depressants. Obviously the reason you're on it is because the doctor believes it could have a positive outcome. Give it shot. You should try out all your options before calling it quits. ;) Be strong. /poses as a bodybuilder :lol:
Syphon
03-07-2004, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by ass_kicker@Mar 7 2004, 04:44 AM
can somebody help me? i kind of dont know what to ****ing do. well. i started taking anti-depressants without even knowing what i was taking... and now my "parents" force me to take them every morning and i just dont want to... so i dont know what to do. i have no point.
u should try to keep takin them and just see how it turns out. but after a while if u think there not doing nething go talk to your doctor about it.
ass_kicker
03-07-2004, 01:32 PM
ok thanks dude. ill just keep on taking them... mmm... theres no point in taking them but anyway. my life is buls*it.
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