View Full Version : HAs mike lost his "And One" ability?
tkd_rap
12-30-2003, 04:51 PM
why doesnt Mike ever write like that anymore, has he lost his touch, the last verse of "And One" when he is rapping "Spit falls from the lip of the witless witness..." and so on, is some of the best rapping i have heard, the rhyming paterns and words he chooses are genius! but i dont se that level of gratness in hybrid theory or meteora, do yuo guys think he has lost it?
Odaton
12-30-2003, 07:25 PM
Because, he doesn't need to work that hard to make millions and be popular. Its that simple....unfortunate, but thats THE TRUTH of it....
Jamie
12-30-2003, 08:24 PM
I think it's a shame though, not to see rapping like that. It would be cool to see it appear again, even in one or two songs
Odaton
12-30-2003, 08:28 PM
It would be nice to hear him rise to his potential next time around. Hybrid Theory had good lyrics from him, but Meteora was very disappointing....We can only wait and hope!
Jamie
12-30-2003, 09:06 PM
Meteora was very dissapointing as far as Mikes lyrics go, but everything else was cool. I wonder what Meteora would sound like with more rapping from the EP days
Odaton
12-30-2003, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by .Broken Fist@Dec 30 2003, 09:06 PM
Meteora was very dissapointing as far as Mikes lyrics go, but everything else was cool. I wonder what Meteora would sound like with more rapping from the EP days
That would be interesting! Hey Brokenfist, you and Tkd are using the same avatar :lol: . Did you copy/paste his?
Originally posted by Odaton+Dec 30 2003, 05:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Odaton @ Dec 30 2003, 05:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--.Broken Fist@Dec 30 2003, 09:06 PM
Meteora was very dissapointing as far as Mikes lyrics go, but everything else was cool. I wonder what Meteora would sound like with more rapping from the EP days
That would be interesting! Hey Brokenfist, you and Tkd are using the same avatar :lol: . Did you copy/paste his? [/b][/quote]
It's one of the defaults. ;)
Odaton
12-30-2003, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Mark+Dec 30 2003, 09:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mark @ Dec 30 2003, 09:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Odaton@Dec 30 2003, 05:46 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--.Broken Fist@Dec 30 2003, 09:06 PM
Meteora was very dissapointing as far as Mikes lyrics go, but everything else was cool. I wonder what Meteora would sound like with more rapping from the EP days
That would be interesting! Hey Brokenfist, you and Tkd are using the same avatar :lol: . Did you copy/paste his?
It's one of the defaults. ;) [/b][/quote]
:blush:
The Modfather
12-31-2003, 06:32 AM
In my honest opinion I think It's Going Down had some very well crafted verses and you know why? Don Gilmore didn't touch it. Don gilmore is responsible for the watering down of LP's lyrics as Mike has even complained about it.
Easy solution to that? Produce your own #### from this day forward. Perhaps I'm not right but I believe Mike produced It's Going Down, and the vocabulary he uses on that is outstanding. Then you have that nice flow at the end of And One...on an album in which MIKE produced. See the pattern? I sure as hell do.
LP needs to do things on thier own, it's the only way they'll remain true to thier creative juices.
Willstar
12-31-2003, 06:38 AM
Derek, Don Gilmore has nothing to do with the X-ecutioners. ;)
Ander
12-31-2003, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by Will+Dec 30 2003, 10:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Will @ Dec 30 2003, 10:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Derek, Don Gilmore has nothing to do with the X-ecutioners. ;)[/b]
That's why 'It's Going Down' is good.
<!--QuoteBegin--Derek@Dec 30 2003, 10:32 PM
Easy solution to that? Produce your own #### from this day forward. Perhaps I'm not right but I believe Mike produced It's Going Down, and the vocabulary he uses on that is outstanding. Then you have that nice flow at the end of And One...on an album in which MIKE produced. See the pattern? I sure as hell do.[/quote]
Hell Yea. And if someone doesn't know what colloquialism means, tell them to pick up a f*cking dictionary. No need to change every word in the song to one of its inadequate synonyms.
Originally posted by Will@Dec 31 2003, 03:08 AM
Derek, Don Gilmore has nothing to do with the X-ecutioners. ;)
Yeah, and seeing that he had no contact with the song, he couldn't of messed it up.
Kęton
12-31-2003, 06:47 AM
I think I heard on the Making of Meteora that Don didn't know much about the hip-hop side, so he left it to Mike, but then you see Don telling Mike there's a problem with the lyrics. That's what confuses me... They say Don doesn't know the rap world, so he leaves it to Mike, but in the end, Don makes Mike change it? I'm not sure, but if this is how it went, then... What the hell?!
Yeah, I do believe Mike's older lyrics really show the greatness of hip hop music within LP, and I think Mike needs more of that in their upcoming album(s).
Ander
12-31-2003, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by Keaton@Dec 30 2003, 10:47 PM
I think I heard on the Making of Meteora that Don didn't know much about the hip-hop side, so he left it to Mike, but then you see Don telling Mike there's a problem with the lyrics. That's what confuses me... They say Don doesn't know the rap world, so he leaves it to Mike, but in the end, Don makes Mike change it? I'm not sure, but if this is how it went, then... What the hell?!
Well, I assume Mike writes more that just his raps and that Gilmore had some hand in f*ucking those parts up. (Though I think Gilmor snuck into the studio late one night and screwed up Nobody's Listening).
_PianoPaPercut_
12-31-2003, 07:07 AM
I don't think Mike has lost his ability to rap like he used to... it's still in him somewhere.. but man.. that dude is great, he brings the hip hop vibe really well into LP.. and it would be better if LP did things by their own rules to stick with the "LP Sound". But hopefully in their upcoming albums his raw rap verses will come back alive again.. listening to him in the EP and in "It's Going Down" is crazy... ^^
Anthony.
01-02-2004, 05:30 AM
It's Goin' Down was amazing... Yeah, Gilmore is very restrictive... He just kills the creativity of LP... But what can we do? It's their choice to do something with him.
Doctor Manhattan
01-02-2004, 05:36 AM
anyone ever notice that on Hybrid Theory and Meteora, Chester always has one or two songs that he does alone, without Mike?
Why not do the same for Mike this time around? ^_^
Omar A
01-02-2004, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by Casey@Jan 2 2004, 05:36 AM
anyone ever notice that on Hybrid Theory and Meteora, Chester always has one or two songs that he does alone, without Mike?
Why not do the same for Mike this time around? ^_^
NO! :mellow:
I honestly think that Mike should produce the next album. The only thing I'm afraid of is if Mike will make it sound too hip hop just like what he did with reanimation, but thats a different story.
Andrea
01-02-2004, 06:27 AM
Originally posted by Casey@Jan 2 2004, 12:36 AM
anyone ever notice that on Hybrid Theory and Meteora, Chester always has one or two songs that he does alone, without Mike?
Why not do the same for Mike this time around? ^_^
I actually would love to hear Mike sing by himself on a few songs. It would be interesting and different, which is good. ;)
LPNeSSRGB
01-02-2004, 03:59 PM
Yeah, Mike has a great voice and should definitely do some solo singing on the next album. :)
I wouldn't say that he's lost his touch as a rapper...he is still one of the best ones out there...but I do think he has room to grow and become even better. ^_^
Alacrity
01-02-2004, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by EastCoastPunk+Jan 2 2004, 01:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (EastCoastPunk @ Jan 2 2004, 01:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Casey@Jan 2 2004, 12:36 AM
anyone ever notice that on Hybrid Theory and Meteora, Chester always has one or two songs that he does alone, without Mike?
Why not do the same for Mike this time around? ^_^
I actually would love to hear Mike sing by himself on a few songs. It would be interesting and different, which is good. ;) [/b][/quote]
Yeah. I (maybe you all did but I didn't pay attention and notice) didn't know that Mike actually did sing on some songs. When I saw LIT I was really impressed...hes really good...and I'd like to see more of it.
LPNeSSRGB
01-02-2004, 04:09 PM
I know, I was shocked at how amazing he sounded during the Pushing remix! :D
Glenn
01-02-2004, 05:39 PM
I think that Mike has become more of a backround to Chester's singing.
What about Papercut though? The rapping was amazing.
Another thing: I think that why LP doesn't make songs like they used to for the EP and Xero is maybe they thought they needed something better, even though that's kind of hard to imagine.
Did Mike sing in the Reanimation version of Pushing Me Away?
Willstar
01-02-2004, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by DuffsterLP@Jan 2 2004, 12:39 PM
Did Mike sing in the Reanimation version of Pushing Me Away?
Yes. After Stephen's solo verse in the bridge, you can hear Mike backing up both Chaz and Stephen.
The Modfather
01-02-2004, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Will@Dec 31 2003, 01:38 AM
Derek, Don Gilmore has nothing to do with the X-ecutioners. ;)
Read my post again. That's why I said for Mike to produce the next record himself as he helped with It's Going Down..without Don at all.
Mcnasty
01-03-2004, 07:31 AM
I hope the next album just takes all of Mikes hard core rap/hip-hop lyrics and all of chesters screams and rock lyrics and just make the perfect line between rock and rap.
EvolutionaryFuse
01-03-2004, 09:19 PM
its just like many of lp songs that werent released or put on cd for sale
Dedicated the lyrics are brilliant
Step up the lyrics tell so much about there rise
High voltage
and one
Part of me
Willstar
01-03-2004, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Derek+Jan 2 2004, 03:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Derek @ Jan 2 2004, 03:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Will@Dec 31 2003, 01:38 AM
Derek, Don Gilmore has nothing to do with the X-ecutioners. ;)
Read my post again. That's why I said for Mike to produce the next record himself as he helped with It's Going Down..without Don at all. [/b][/quote]
No, I meant that's why it sounds good. Don had nothing to do with it.
Odaton
01-04-2004, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by Omar A@Jan 2 2004, 06:23 AM
NO! :mellow:
I honestly think that Mike should produce the next album. The only thing I'm afraid of is if Mike will make it sound too hip hop just like what he did with reanimation, but thats a different story.
I think they should just get a different producer. I would like them to be produced by David Bottrill, he has a really open mind (hell he produced for Tool) and so he wouldn't restrict LP at all creatively, quite the opposite! I love the work he did with I Mother Earth on their new album, great stuff.
tkd_rap
01-04-2004, 03:39 AM
yeah all i can say is if they get back to their roots as far as mike, and rap, and bring in the new heavyness from meteora and chesters better more exsperianced voice from meteora, then we got ourselfs a !@$$^&^ record!
Hybrid Soldier
01-04-2004, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by Will+Jan 3 2004, 05:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Will @ Jan 3 2004, 05:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Derek@Jan 2 2004, 03:44 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Will@Dec 31 2003, 01:38 AM
Derek, Don Gilmore has nothing to do with the X-ecutioners. ;)
Read my post again. That's why I said for Mike to produce the next record himself as he helped with It's Going Down..without Don at all.
No, I meant that's why it sounds good. Don had nothing to do with it. [/b][/quote]
:lol:
anyway i agree with tdk_rap, it would be awesome.
EvolutionaryFuse
01-04-2004, 03:51 PM
all mikes old rapping is awsome but listen to forgotten, figure.09, hit the floor, papercut, and nobodys listening
he can still do it he just doesnt need to he showed this when he freestyled during nobodys listening at manchester arena
astora
01-04-2004, 05:51 PM
FINALLY!! i've found people who agree with me!
i've spoken about this to heaps of online and real friends who say just say stuff like 'meh', he still sings good'. but mikes not s'pose to 'sing', he's an emcee, he raps. i also agree that don gilmore is holding mike back. xero had awesome lyrics. as soon as don came along, he sorta made mike slow down and take a step back.
DAMN YOU GILMORE! *shakes fist at him*
EDIT: its going down is a kikass song (w00t)
Odaton
01-04-2004, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by astora@Jan 4 2004, 05:51 PM
DAMN YOU GILMORE! *shakes fist at him*
:thumbsup:
I'm glad some people here want to see Gilmore gone! However, I think they do need a producer! Holy shitz, I just thought of something!
How about:
Rick Rubin
He's a legendary hip-hop producer that has worked with bands and harnessed their unique sounds. Namely the Red Hot Chilli Peppers, they started with him and they released 'Blood Sugar SM', System of A Down, and the Mars Volta. He has the hip-hop side of him, as well as experience with getting bands up to their full potential. What do you think?
astora
01-04-2004, 06:24 PM
i think barney the McF*ckin purple dinosaur could make a better producer than gilmore. i like your idea Odaton. like it alot... :rolleyes:
Odaton
01-04-2004, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by astora@Jan 4 2004, 06:24 PM
i like your idea Odaton. like it alot... :rolleyes:
Are you being sarcastic :mellow:
Doctor Manhattan
01-04-2004, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by Odaton+Jan 4 2004, 06:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Odaton @ Jan 4 2004, 06:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--astora@Jan 4 2004, 06:24 PM
i like your idea Odaton. like it alot... :rolleyes:
Are you being sarcastic :mellow: [/b][/quote]
psst, it's a teenie..
RUN
Odaton
01-04-2004, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by Casey+Jan 4 2004, 06:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Casey @ Jan 4 2004, 06:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Odaton@Jan 4 2004, 06:28 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--astora@Jan 4 2004, 06:24 PM
i like your idea Odaton. like it alot... :rolleyes:
Are you being sarcastic :mellow:
psst, it's a teenie..
RUN [/b][/quote]
Teenies? :o
Nooooooooooooooo.......
EvolutionaryFuse
01-04-2004, 07:37 PM
Mike should be the producer of there next albumn and use his own record label, the one he uses for simplistic
tkd_rap
01-04-2004, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by HIT_THE_FLOOR@Jan 4 2004, 07:37 PM
Mike should be the producer of there next albumn and use his own record label, the one he uses for simplistic
bam, why should they go for WB? would they not make as much money some how if they switched to their own reocord lable? they may be in a contract were they cant leave too, that can be holding them back
astora
01-05-2004, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by Odaton+Jan 4 2004, 06:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Odaton @ Jan 4 2004, 06:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Casey@Jan 4 2004, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by -Odaton@Jan 4 2004, 06:28 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--astora@Jan 4 2004, 06:24 PM
i like your idea Odaton. like it alot... :rolleyes:
Are you being sarcastic :mellow:
psst, it's a teenie..
RUN
Teenies? :o
Nooooooooooooooo....... [/b][/quote]
no. i seriously thought it was a good idea. sry if it sounded sarcastic :wth:
....teeny? WTF is that s'pose to mean :argh:
Omar A
01-05-2004, 04:46 AM
Originally posted by HIT_THE_FLOOR@Jan 4 2004, 07:37 PM
Mike should be the producer of there next albumn and use his own record label, the one he uses for simplistic
thats the stupidest idea I've ever heard. Why would LP want to leave WB??? WB is like the biggest company in the business. I bet you any artist would love to get signed to WB. Why do you think LP are so big? Its because of WB.
:chemist: *Runsaway*
Ander
01-05-2004, 04:47 AM
and they need WB for distribution.
Willstar
01-05-2004, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by superxero88@Jan 4 2004, 11:47 PM
and they need WB for distribution.
Exactly.
corrupted_authority
01-05-2004, 09:12 AM
BLOODY HELL PPL !!!! LP NEED WB, IT THE BEST THING LP CAN KEEP ! WITHOUT WB THEY WOULD B NOTHN N WE WOULDNT B HERE 2DAY
Mcnasty
01-05-2004, 10:10 AM
BLOODY HELL PPL !!!! LP NEED WB, IT THE BEST THING LP CAN KEEP ! WITHOUT WB THEY WOULD B NOTHN N WE WOULDNT B HERE 2DAY
:mellow: Can you spell correctly, use proper grammer kind of and not type in caps please :D Thank you.
LiveInCalifornia
01-11-2004, 04:10 AM
I have a lot of replies so I am just putting them in one post.
First off, Don Gilmore is a good producer. If they didn't like him they wouldn't use him. Its also good to have a second or seventh opinion in the studio. He also produced Hybrid Theory which shows that he isnt making Linkin Park any worse.
Also, I think the reason we dont see rapping like what is done in the end of And One is because it doesnt fit with the song. And one could really end after 3 minutes the rapping part is just extra. This wouldn't really fit on any of their current albums, which is why I don't think they have done anything like it. If Mike was able to fit that style of rapping into one of their songs and it flowed well then it would be amazing. Hopefully something like this will be on the next album.
Third, the only reason Mike is able to sign bands like Simplistic because he has a sub-label under WB. Without WB he wouldnt be able to sign anyone, so he can't join his own label and be freed from WB.
For the next album I wouldn't mind haveing a different producer or even Mike as the producer, just make sure it is able to retain the feeling as the other albums have.
Doctor Manhattan
01-11-2004, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by LiveInCalifornia@Jan 11 2004, 04:10 AM
Third, the only reason Mike is able to sign bands like Simplistic because he has a sub-label under WB. Without WB he wouldnt be able to sign anyone, so he can't join his own label and be freed from WB.
Yes you can.
Nine Inch Nails (Trent Reznor, mostly..) joined Interscope Records with the contract clause of being signed to his own label, running it and having artistic freedom over all of NIN's CD.
LP could do the same, but I doubt they will.
Originally posted by LiveInCalifornia@Jan 11 2004, 12:40 AM
First off, Don Gilmore is a good producer. If they didn't like him they wouldn't use him. Its also good to have a second or seventh opinion in the studio. He also produced Hybrid Theory which shows that he isnt making Linkin Park any worse.
I'm sure Don Gilmore and WB didn't expect LP to sell 8 million copies in the US when "Hybrid Theory" was getting produced, so Don probably laid back and let the band portray their own songs. The pressure of making a second album as successful as the debut obviously clouded his vision and he just tried to make "Meteora" alot like "Hybrid Theory" to acheive the same success. LP probably used Don again because he produced the first one and they didn't want to change what wasn't broken. Well it's broken now. :lol:
Ander
01-11-2004, 05:16 AM
Originally posted by Mark+Jan 10 2004, 09:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mark @ Jan 10 2004, 09:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--LiveInCalifornia@Jan 11 2004, 12:40 AM
First off, Don Gilmore is a good producer. If they didn't like him they wouldn't use him. Its also good to have a second or seventh opinion in the studio. He also produced Hybrid Theory which shows that he isnt making Linkin Park any worse.
I'm sure Don Gilmore and WB didn't expect LP to sell 8 million copies in the US when "Hybrid Theory" was getting produced, so Don probably laid back and let the band portray their own songs. The pressure of making a second album as successful as the debut obviously clouded his vision and he just tried to make "Meteora" alot like "Hybrid Theory" to acheive the same success. LP probably used Don again because he produced the first one and they didn't want to change what wasn't broken. Well it's broken now. :lol: [/b][/quote]
"when the paper's crumpled up, it cant be perfect again".
I've had about enough Don Gilmore and his papercrumpling shenanigans! :whistle:
Doctor Manhattan
01-11-2004, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by Mark+Jan 10 2004, 11:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mark @ Jan 10 2004, 11:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--LiveInCalifornia@Jan 11 2004, 12:40 AM
First off, Don Gilmore is a good producer. If they didn't like him they wouldn't use him. Its also good to have a second or seventh opinion in the studio. He also produced Hybrid Theory which shows that he isnt making Linkin Park any worse.
I'm sure Don Gilmore and WB didn't expect LP to sell 8 million copies in the US when "Hybrid Theory" was getting produced [/b][/quote]
I'll bet you $2 million they did.
lance
01-11-2004, 07:16 AM
think because he 1 2 use a different way to write his lyrics onli :D
Willstar
01-11-2004, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by lance@Jan 11 2004, 02:16 AM
think because he 1 2 use a different way to write his lyrics onli :D
W. T. F.
Kęton
01-11-2004, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by Will+Jan 10 2004, 09:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Will @ Jan 10 2004, 09:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--lance@Jan 11 2004, 02:16 AM
think because he 1 2 use a different way to write his lyrics onli :D
W. T. F. [/b][/quote]
Yeh :wth:.
Please do explain :huh:.
|2awk.Star
01-11-2004, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Omar A+Jan 2 2004, 06:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Omar A @ Jan 2 2004, 06:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Casey@Jan 2 2004, 05:36 AM
anyone ever notice that on Hybrid Theory and Meteora, Chester always has one or two songs that he does alone, without Mike?
Why not do the same for Mike this time around? ^_^
NO! :mellow:
I honestly think that Mike should produce the next album. The only thing I'm afraid of is if Mike will make it sound too hip hop just like what he did with reanimation, but thats a different story. [/b][/quote]
Why do people trip on this? "Mike might make it TOO rap!" That was the point of Reanimation! It was supposed to veer to the rap more, and veer to the metal more (people seem to forget about With You and OSC remixes). They wanted to do things to the extreme. I don't think Mike would go too rap. If you listen to his remixes you can't tell they aren't really rap. He's into more of the orchestral and piano production. So Mike SHOULD produce the next album.
Originally posted by |2awk.Star+Jan 11 2004, 02:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (|2awk.Star @ Jan 11 2004, 02:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> So Mike SHOULD produce the next album. [/b]
Read the post, buddy. :)
<!--QuoteBegin--Omar A@Jan 2 2004, 06:23 AM
I honestly think that Mike should produce the next album. [/quote]
tkd_rap
01-11-2004, 08:04 PM
if warner would let him and if its not too much for mike to take on, whatever you have to do, then yes, mike should do it
Mcnasty
01-12-2004, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by tkd_rap@Jan 11 2004, 03:04 PM
if warner would let him and if its not too much for mike to take on, whatever you have to do, then yes, mike should do it
You mean Warner has to let Mike produce his own album :mellow: ?
tkd_rap
01-12-2004, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Mcnasty+Jan 12 2004, 04:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mcnasty @ Jan 12 2004, 04:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--tkd_rap@Jan 11 2004, 03:04 PM
if warner would let him and if its not too much for mike to take on, whatever you have to do, then yes, mike should do it
You mean Warner has to let Mike produce his own album :mellow: ? [/b][/quote]
yeah, give him some creative freedom, let him do songs like and one...that is if he still can and wants too
Metamorphosiss
01-12-2004, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Omar A+Jan 5 2004, 04:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Omar A @ Jan 5 2004, 04:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--HIT_THE_FLOOR@Jan 4 2004, 07:37 PM
Mike should be the producer of there next albumn and use his own record label, the one he uses for simplistic
thats the stupidest idea I've ever heard. Why would LP want to leave WB??? WB is like the biggest company in the business. I bet you any artist would love to get signed to WB. Why do you think LP are so big? Its because of WB.
:chemist: *Runsaway*[/b][/quote]
I think that Sony is the biggest company in the business.
... Nevermind
LornVourkolakas
01-12-2004, 08:57 PM
think because he 1 2 use a different way to write his lyrics onli
I'm going to try to translate. "I think because he wants to use a different way to write his lyrics..." I dunno about the onli part... So yeah..
It'd be cool if LP was let to produce their next album. Give them a little more freedom. To play something they know they won't get bored of.
Doctor Manhattan
01-12-2004, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by Metamorphosiss+Jan 12 2004, 02:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Metamorphosiss @ Jan 12 2004, 02:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Omar A@Jan 5 2004, 04:46 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--HIT_THE_FLOOR@Jan 4 2004, 07:37 PM
Mike should be the producer of there next albumn and use his own record label, the one he uses for simplistic
thats the stupidest idea I've ever heard. Why would LP want to leave WB??? WB is like the biggest company in the business. I bet you any artist would love to get signed to WB. Why do you think LP are so big? Its because of WB.
:chemist: *Runsaway*
I think that Sony is the biggest company in the business.
... Nevermind [/b][/quote]
actually didn't Warner Brothers and another record label merge to create the biggest record label in existence?
I'm serious. I thought I read that in Rolling Stone. Something about how Linkin Park is on the biggest independent label today.
intheend1004
01-15-2004, 12:28 AM
mike will probably use an and one rap on the next album, each album linkin park's sound evolves, like on "nobody's listening" he got the same style street rap as the and one rap.... i don't maybe... just maybe
maybe linkin park's next album should be produced by don gilmore and jay z so lp will have a balance of don gilmore's rock experience and jay-z's rap experience
The Doctor
01-15-2004, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by intheend1004@Jan 14 2004, 07:28 PM
maybe linkin park's next album should be produced by don gilmore and jay z so lp will have a balance of don gilmore's rock experience and jay-z's rap experience
Why Jay-Z? Why doesnt Mike just do it himself? Hes perfectly capable of doing it. (Reanimation)
Willstar
01-15-2004, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by Casey@Jan 12 2004, 05:00 PM
actually didn't Warner Brothers and another record label merge to create the biggest record label in existence?
I'm serious. I thought I read that in Rolling Stone. Something about how Linkin Park is on the biggest independent label today.
I think I read about that, but I don't think it was WBR. WBR has been around since at least the '60s.
arT saveS
01-15-2004, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by astora+Jan 4 2004, 10:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (astora @ Jan 4 2004, 10:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Odaton@Jan 4 2004, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by -Casey@Jan 4 2004, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by -Odaton@Jan 4 2004, 06:28 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--astora@Jan 4 2004, 06:24 PM
i like your idea Odaton. like it alot... :rolleyes:
Are you being sarcastic :mellow:
psst, it's a teenie..
RUN
Teenies? :o
Nooooooooooooooo.......
no. i seriously thought it was a good idea. sry if it sounded sarcastic :wth:
....teeny? WTF is that s'pose to mean :argh: [/b][/quote]
erm...they think you think chester and mike is hot
Doctor Manhattan
01-15-2004, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by Will+Jan 14 2004, 06:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Will @ Jan 14 2004, 06:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Casey@Jan 12 2004, 05:00 PM
actually didn't Warner Brothers and another record label merge to create the biggest record label in existence?
I'm serious. I thought I read that in Rolling Stone. Something about how Linkin Park is on the biggest independent label today.
I think I read about that, but I don't think it was WBR. WBR has been around since at least the '60s. [/b][/quote]
Maybe it was Sony & IGM or whatever. I'll look into that.
Nevertheless, Linkin Park was mentioned in that..
tkd_rap
01-15-2004, 03:22 AM
Originally posted by intheend1004@Jan 15 2004, 12:28 AM
mike will probably use an and one rap on the next album, each album linkin park's sound evolves, like on "nobody's listening" he got the same style street rap as the and one rap.... i don't maybe... just maybe
maybe linkin park's next album should be produced by don gilmore and jay z so lp will have a balance of don gilmore's rock experience and jay-z's rap experience
wrong, nobodys listening was no were near what and one is, they are totally diferent, NB is slow and rhyme is not as afton, and is alot shorter
Doctor Manhattan
01-17-2004, 06:39 AM
Originally posted by intheend1004@Jan 14 2004, 06:28 PM
maybe linkin park's next album should be produced by don gilmore and jay z so lp will have a balance of don gilmore's rock experience and jay-z's rap experience
what the #### are you on? crack?
I mean, jesus, JAY-Z?!
Ander
01-17-2004, 06:44 AM
yea seriously, he's not even a producer. i still say, let rick rubin do it.
Glenn
01-17-2004, 02:20 PM
I think Mike should produce the next album and see how it comes out. Jay-z??? What the F_uck?
tkd_rap
01-17-2004, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by DuffsterLP@Jan 17 2004, 02:20 PM
I think Mike should produce the next album and see how it comes out. Jay-z??? What the F_uck?
oh come on, if jay z did it would be like, "Chut up when YOU SPREAD THE CHEEZE! CHUT UP! CHUT UP! I AM ABOUT TO SMACK BOOTY!" that would be an awsome lp album :lol:
intheend1004
01-17-2004, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Casey+Jan 17 2004, 01:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Casey @ Jan 17 2004, 01:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--intheend1004@Jan 14 2004, 06:28 PM
maybe linkin park's next album should be produced by don gilmore and jay z so lp will have a balance of don gilmore's rock experience and jay-z's rap experience
what the #### are you on? crack?
I mean, jesus, JAY-Z?! [/b][/quote]
no.... i was just thinking some rap producer like one of the producers for the roots or jurassic 5 could help out with the rap side of the songs because in the making of meteora dvd joe hahn said that don gilmore hasn't really worked with turntablists and maybe a rap producer could help out with all of the turntable stuff... i know jay-z wasn't the greatest example but what i meant was somebody to help out don gilmore with the rap elements of the songs
EDIT: Joe Hahn was kinda wrong, Don Gilmore worked with Sugar Ray and they have a DJ in the group
Originally posted by intheend1004+Jan 17 2004, 01:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (intheend1004 @ Jan 17 2004, 01:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Casey@Jan 17 2004, 01:39 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--intheend1004@Jan 14 2004, 06:28 PM
maybe linkin park's next album should be produced by don gilmore and jay z so lp will have a balance of don gilmore's rock experience and jay-z's rap experience
what the #### are you on? crack?
I mean, jesus, JAY-Z?!
no.... i was just thinking some rap producer like one of the producers for the roots or jurassic 5 could help out with the rap side of the songs because in the making of meteora dvd joe hahn said that don gilmore hasn't really worked with turntablists and maybe a rap producer could help out with all of the turntable stuff... i know jay-z wasn't the greatest example but what i meant was somebody to help out don gilmore with the rap elements of the songs
EDIT: Joe Hahn was kinda wrong, Don Gilmore worked with Sugar Ray and they have a DJ in the group [/b][/quote]
Why not use Mike for the rap and rock parts? I mean, he did fine on Reanimation and the Hybrid Theory EP. The EP was a great mixture of amazing lyrics and rap and rock. Reanimation was more rap oriented, but rockier songs like P5hng Me A*wy, By_Myslf and Wth>You were great. I'd put all my trust into Mike for the next album.
|2awk.Star
01-18-2004, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Mark+Jan 17 2004, 05:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mark @ Jan 17 2004, 05:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -intheend1004@Jan 17 2004, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by -Casey@Jan 17 2004, 01:39 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--intheend1004@Jan 14 2004, 06:28 PM
maybe linkin park's next album should be produced by don gilmore and jay z so lp will have a balance of don gilmore's rock experience and jay-z's rap experience
what the #### are you on? crack?
I mean, jesus, JAY-Z?!
no.... i was just thinking some rap producer like one of the producers for the roots or jurassic 5 could help out with the rap side of the songs because in the making of meteora dvd joe hahn said that don gilmore hasn't really worked with turntablists and maybe a rap producer could help out with all of the turntable stuff... i know jay-z wasn't the greatest example but what i meant was somebody to help out don gilmore with the rap elements of the songs
EDIT: Joe Hahn was kinda wrong, Don Gilmore worked with Sugar Ray and they have a DJ in the group
Why not use Mike for the rap and rock parts? I mean, he did fine on Reanimation and the Hybrid Theory EP. The EP was a great mixture of amazing lyrics and rap and rock. Reanimation was more rap oriented, but rockier songs like P5hng Me A*wy, By_Myslf and Wth>You were great. I'd put all my trust into Mike for the next album. [/b][/quote]
Like I said. Those "rap remixes" were done by RAP producers! Listen to Mike and Joe's remixes. *listen* Nope. Not too rap oriented to me. Joe's are pretty hardcore and Mike's are more orchestral. He did Breaking the Habit, Nobody's Listening, then the beats for Session. The dude isn't just rap orient. Mike and Joe = produce next album.
Willstar
01-18-2004, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by tkd_rap+Jan 17 2004, 10:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tkd_rap @ Jan 17 2004, 10:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--DuffsterLP@Jan 17 2004, 02:20 PM
I think Mike should produce the next album and see how it comes out. Jay-z??? What the F_uck?
oh come on, if jay z did it would be like, "Chut up when YOU SPREAD THE CHEEZE! CHUT UP! CHUT UP! I AM ABOUT TO SMACK BOOTY!" that would be an awsome lp album :lol: [/b][/quote]
"Chut"?
Is that a new kind of bread?
LornVourkolakas
01-18-2004, 09:23 PM
I eat Italian bread.. :P Perhaps Chut is a secret "Ghetto" word. Dun dun dun...
tkd_rap
01-19-2004, 03:27 AM
Originally posted by LornVourkolakas@Jan 18 2004, 09:23 PM
I eat Italian bread.. :P Perhaps Chut is a secret "Ghetto" word. Dun dun dun...
yall dont get it LOL, its ghetto shut up! what lp would be if jay z got ahold of them, hince the cheeze and booty...my mind is lost on all but me
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