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sup103
06-17-2003, 06:23 PM
Grrr. Okay, I just plunked down 17 dollars for Finger Eleven's new CD. Now, not that it is a bad CD, but that is crazy. I was going to pick up Flaw's CD as well. It was 20 bucks. 20 freaking dollars. Why do CD's cost so much?

File sharing I think might attribute to it, but cmon. File sharing is how you find out about tons of bands. If not for file sharing I wouldnt know about half the bands I do. It is a way to decide whether or not the CD is worth purchasing or not. Now, if I like the CD, I buy it after I download it. File sharing actually increases popularity of bands, and the RIAA knows this. They want to rob you of your money. Think about it. A catchy single is put out on the radio, you go and buy the CD, and the rest of the CD sucks. You just then wasted 20 bucks on a crappy CD. CD's are getting way to high in prices, ive seen lots of CD's that go as high as 30 bucks, and they dont even contain a DVD or enhanced features. I would understand if it came with a DVD or enhanced features, but not all CD's do. The recording industry does not realize that raising CD prices will just encourage more file sharing. Everyone knows it, im sure you download rather then buy alot. It is getting really bad, and the RIAA needs to wake up.

What are your thoughts? Are CD's priced fairly, or is it getting out of hand?

Jawknee
06-17-2003, 06:27 PM
I agree. A chain here in the U.S. called The Wherehouse is insane with their prices! They filed bankruptcy a few months ago and have had almost all thier locations shutdown already. But I remember when CDs were on sale in that store, it would be like "$16.99." That's a sale? And if you bought CDs that weren't on sale, get ready to pay 20-22 bucks. Import CDs are insanely priced as well. That's why I hardly buy CDs now and I only buy if they're on sale or if I have to. File-sharing is great.

sup103
06-17-2003, 06:30 PM
I know, that was Finger Eleven on sale too. I think alot of people are starting to get into the more underground artists, because their CD's arent priced so high. File sharing is just going to end up replacing CD's all together if the RIAA doesnt take action.

Dedicated
06-17-2003, 06:30 PM
I just get albums from www.play.com and almost all of the cds are special edition and are around 8.99 (UK) which is quite cheap

Todd
06-17-2003, 06:34 PM
Dont go to stores in the mall. They're always more expensive. Ive noticed that Best Buy and Target tend to have cheaper CD prices. New releases are almost always 12 bucks or under at those 2 stores. WalMarts also cheap, but make sure you're not getting the edited version when you go there. Sam Goody has always been very expensive.


Also, eBay isnt a bad place. I just got Staind-Break the Cycle, brand new and still wrapped for 9 bucks.

Terry
06-17-2003, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by sup103@Jun 17 2003, 06:23 PM
Grrr. Okay, I just plunked down 17 dollars for Finger Eleven's new CD. Now, not that it is a bad CD, but that is crazy. I was going to pick up Flaw's CD as well. It was 20 bucks. 20 freaking dollars. Why do CD's cost so much?

File sharing I think might attribute to it, but cmon. File sharing is how you find out about tons of bands. If not for file sharing I wouldnt know about half the bands I do. It is a way to decide whether or not the CD is worth purchasing or not. Now, if I like the CD, I buy it after I download it. File sharing actually increases popularity of bands, and the RIAA knows this. They want to rob you of your money. Think about it. A catchy single is put out on the radio, you go and buy the CD, and the rest of the CD sucks. You just then wasted 20 bucks on a crappy CD. CD's are getting way to high in prices, ive seen lots of CD's that go as high as 30 bucks, and they dont even contain a DVD or enhanced features. I would understand if it came with a DVD or enhanced features, but not all CD's do. The recording industry does not realize that raising CD prices will just encourage more file sharing. Everyone knows it, im sure you download rather then buy alot. It is getting really bad, and the RIAA needs to wake up.

What are your thoughts? Are CD's priced fairly, or is it getting out of hand?
They are getting out of hand. I was really obssesed with hip hop and R&B a couple years ago (I think) and I really wanted that old Ashanti cd. It was (same price as sup103's price) 20 dollars. Why is it so f*ckin expensive now? I mean, some cds aren't even that good. (I'm not saying if you buy them they are) Some cds that i buy for $16-$20 are just collecting dust in my closet. These companies are so unfair these days.

Jawknee
06-17-2003, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by L&#33;nKnP4rKGrL12+Jun 17 2003, 11:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (L&#33;nKnP4rKGrL12 @ Jun 17 2003, 11:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--sup103@Jun 17 2003, 06:23 PM
Grrr. Okay, I just plunked down 17 dollars for Finger Eleven&#39;s new CD. Now, not that it is a bad CD, but that is crazy. I was going to pick up Flaw&#39;s CD as well. It was 20 bucks. 20 freaking dollars. Why do CD&#39;s cost so much?

File sharing I think might attribute to it, but cmon. File sharing is how you find out about tons of bands. If not for file sharing I wouldnt know about half the bands I do. It is a way to decide whether or not the CD is worth purchasing or not. Now, if I like the CD, I buy it after I download it. File sharing actually increases popularity of bands, and the RIAA knows this. They want to rob you of your money. Think about it. A catchy single is put out on the radio, you go and buy the CD, and the rest of the CD sucks. You just then wasted 20 bucks on a crappy CD. CD&#39;s are getting way to high in prices, ive seen lots of CD&#39;s that go as high as 30 bucks, and they dont even contain a DVD or enhanced features. I would understand if it came with a DVD or enhanced features, but not all CD&#39;s do. The recording industry does not realize that raising CD prices will just encourage more file sharing. Everyone knows it, im sure you download rather then buy alot. It is getting really bad, and the RIAA needs to wake up.

What are your thoughts? Are CD&#39;s priced fairly, or is it getting out of hand?
They are getting out of hand. I was really obssesed with hip hop and R&B a couple years ago (I think) and I really wanted that old Ashanti cd. It was (same price as sup103&#39;s price) 20 dollars. Why is it so f*ckin expensive now? I mean, some cds aren&#39;t even that good. (I&#39;m not saying if you buy them they are) Some cds that i buy for &#036;16-&#036;20 are just collecting dust in my closet. These companies are so unfair these days. [/b][/quote]
Ashanti&#39;s first album came out last year...meaning you were "obssessed with hip hop and R&B" last year...nice try. ;)

sup103
06-17-2003, 06:41 PM
I know Todd, but Target doesnt always have the CD&#39;s you want. Target doesnt have Finger Eleven, Flaw, Stutterfly or alot of bands alot of us here listen to. And after they become old, they go right to 15-20 bucks. Not all of us get into artists right when their CD comes out, its almost like a punishment.

Todd
06-17-2003, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by sup103@Jun 17 2003, 01:41 PM
I know Todd, but Target doesnt always have the CD&#39;s you want. Target doesnt have Finger Eleven, Flaw, Stutterfly or alot of bands alot of us here listen to. And after they become old, they go right to 15-20 bucks. Not all of us get into artists right when their CD comes out, its almost like a punishment.
True, Target does only have the more popular ones (Then again, I got Breaking Benjamin and 30STM there when they weren&#39;t too popular)

As I said though, eBay isn&#39;t a bad place to check, some good deals are out there.

Terry
06-17-2003, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by Jawknee+Jun 17 2003, 06:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jawknee @ Jun 17 2003, 06:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -L&#33;nKnP4rKGrL12@Jun 17 2003, 11:37 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--sup103@Jun 17 2003, 06:23 PM
Grrr. Okay, I just plunked down 17 dollars for Finger Eleven&#39;s new CD. Now, not that it is a bad CD, but that is crazy. I was going to pick up Flaw&#39;s CD as well. It was 20 bucks. 20 freaking dollars. Why do CD&#39;s cost so much?

File sharing I think might attribute to it, but cmon. File sharing is how you find out about tons of bands. If not for file sharing I wouldnt know about half the bands I do. It is a way to decide whether or not the CD is worth purchasing or not. Now, if I like the CD, I buy it after I download it. File sharing actually increases popularity of bands, and the RIAA knows this. They want to rob you of your money. Think about it. A catchy single is put out on the radio, you go and buy the CD, and the rest of the CD sucks. You just then wasted 20 bucks on a crappy CD. CD&#39;s are getting way to high in prices, ive seen lots of CD&#39;s that go as high as 30 bucks, and they dont even contain a DVD or enhanced features. I would understand if it came with a DVD or enhanced features, but not all CD&#39;s do. The recording industry does not realize that raising CD prices will just encourage more file sharing. Everyone knows it, im sure you download rather then buy alot. It is getting really bad, and the RIAA needs to wake up.

What are your thoughts? Are CD&#39;s priced fairly, or is it getting out of hand?
They are getting out of hand. I was really obssesed with hip hop and R&B a couple years ago (I think) and I really wanted that old Ashanti cd. It was (same price as sup103&#39;s price) 20 dollars. Why is it so f*ckin expensive now? I mean, some cds aren&#39;t even that good. (I&#39;m not saying if you buy them they are) Some cds that i buy for &#036;16-&#036;20 are just collecting dust in my closet. These companies are so unfair these days.
Ashanti&#39;s first album came out last year...meaning you were "obssessed with hip hop and R&B" last year...nice try. ;) [/b][/quote]
Huh? Oh yeah . . I got that album for my friend&#39;s birthday . . yeah, I loved hip hop and R&B. But I love LP now. . . I don&#39;t like hip hop. It&#39;s too boring. Rock is tight. My friends hate me for that. :D

sup103
06-17-2003, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Todd+Jun 17 2003, 06:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Jun 17 2003, 06:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--sup103@Jun 17 2003, 01:41 PM
I know Todd, but Target doesnt always have the CD&#39;s you want. Target doesnt have Finger Eleven, Flaw, Stutterfly or alot of bands alot of us here listen to. And after they become old, they go right to 15-20 bucks. Not all of us get into artists right when their CD comes out, its almost like a punishment.
True, Target does only have the more popular ones (Then again, I got Breaking Benjamin and 30STM there when they weren&#39;t too popular)

As I said though, eBay isn&#39;t a bad place to check, some good deals are out there. [/b][/quote]
Yes, Target has that Launch Breakout Artist section thankfully. I dont really trust E-Bay, my friend got something off of there and it came to him all mangled and stuff.

Bryan
06-17-2003, 07:05 PM
&#036;20 for Flaw&#39;s album?

There is no way possible that Flaw&#39;s album was for sale for 20 dollars. You should be able to find Flaw&#39;s album for around &#036;10.

sup103
06-17-2003, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by Bryan@Jun 17 2003, 07:05 PM
&#036;20 for Flaw&#39;s album?

There is no way possible that Flaw&#39;s album was for sale for 20 dollars. You should be able to find Flaw&#39;s album for around &#036;10.
I kid you not, it was 19.99 on the dot. I was mad too.

Mark
06-17-2003, 07:08 PM
I bought the new Finger Eleven cd today too. I put down &#036;23CDN for it, which is around &#036;15-&#036;16 US. It&#39;s not that terrible a price. Maybe it&#39;s because F11 are Canadian that it&#39;s cheaper here. I bought 2 cd&#39;s the other day (Cold for me and Coldplay for father&#39;s day) for &#036;35, which also wasn&#39;t a huge price. But it&#39;s still a bit too much.

I think if the artists really care about record sales and whatnot, they&#39;ll convince their record companies to lower the prices. If cd&#39;s are still going to get as high as &#036;32CDN (&#036;20US), I&#39;ll just forget buying cd&#39;s altogther.

Note: has anyone noticed that alot of cd&#39;s are coming out with limited edition dvd&#39;s? 4 of the last 5 cd&#39;s I&#39;ve bought (Meteora, 14 Shades of Grey, Year of the Spider, Finger Eleven) have come with them. Do I sense a trend?

sup103
06-17-2003, 07:10 PM
I think the artists wouldnt push the record companies to lower prices, they get paid off CD&#39;s, after all.

The 6 out of the last 11 CD&#39;s ive bought (Linkin Park, Finger Eleven, Cold, Third Eye Blind, Staind, Metallica) have contained DVD&#39;s.

Bryan
06-17-2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by sup103@Jun 17 2003, 03:10 PM
I think the artists wouldnt push the record companies to lower prices, they get paid off CD&#39;s, after all.

The 6 out of the last 11 CD&#39;s ive bought (Linkin Park, Finger Eleven, Cold, Third Eye Blind, Staind, Metallica) have contained DVD&#39;s.
No they don&#39;t.

The record company&#39;s pay a band to make an album. Let&#39;s say Linkin Park got paid 5 million to make Meteora. Meteora could have sold 100 albums total, world wide, Linkin Park would have still got paid 5 million.

Todd
06-17-2003, 07:19 PM
I dont mind the DVDs, they&#39;re good to watch sometimes, but if thats whats driving up CD prices, then they should be gotten rid of.

Jawknee
06-17-2003, 07:29 PM
The DVDs exist so people buy the albums to get that DVD whereas you download the album, you don&#39;t get the DVD...unless you can download that too...which I bet you can. ;)

sup103
06-17-2003, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Bryan+Jun 17 2003, 07:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bryan @ Jun 17 2003, 07:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--sup103@Jun 17 2003, 03:10 PM
I think the artists wouldnt push the record companies to lower prices, they get paid off CD&#39;s, after all.

The 6 out of the last 11 CD&#39;s ive bought (Linkin Park, Finger Eleven, Cold, Third Eye Blind, Staind, Metallica) have contained DVD&#39;s.
No they don&#39;t.

The record company&#39;s pay a band to make an album. Let&#39;s say Linkin Park got paid 5 million to make Meteora. Meteora could have sold 100 albums total, world wide, Linkin Park would have still got paid 5 million. [/b][/quote]
Well, even so. A record company most likely wont listen to a band, consdiering they just paid them all that money to make the album. They have to make that money back somehow.

Chrissy
06-17-2003, 09:16 PM
I like record stores like Empire Records which is right near me (im gonna miss it when i go away to college :*() that charge 10 bucks per CD and 7 bucks for used CDs&#33; that&#39;s the way it should be&#33;&#33; if i wanna save money up for college, i don&#39;t have enough to buy CDs for 20 bucks&#33;

Bryan
06-17-2003, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by sup103+Jun 17 2003, 04:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sup103 @ Jun 17 2003, 04:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Bryan@Jun 17 2003, 07:19 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--sup103@Jun 17 2003, 03:10 PM
I think the artists wouldnt push the record companies to lower prices, they get paid off CD&#39;s, after all.

The 6 out of the last 11 CD&#39;s ive bought (Linkin Park, Finger Eleven, Cold, Third Eye Blind, Staind, Metallica) have contained DVD&#39;s.
No they don&#39;t.

The record company&#39;s pay a band to make an album. Let&#39;s say Linkin Park got paid 5 million to make Meteora. Meteora could have sold 100 albums total, world wide, Linkin Park would have still got paid 5 million.
Well, even so. A record company most likely wont listen to a band, consdiering they just paid them all that money to make the album. They have to make that money back somehow. [/b][/quote]
Yea, they make all that money back from record sales, merchandise, etc. But, a band also wants to seel a good amount of records to please the record company. If a band doesn&#39;t do well on record sales, the record label may drop them.

LProckon
06-17-2003, 11:00 PM
I gave up on going to music stores in the mall *ahem*Sam Goody*ahem* because the prices are ridiculous. Go to places like Target or Best Buy. But I would usually just go to the small music stores. One around here is Rasputin Music. New CD&#39;s aren&#39;t too expensive, I&#39;ve gotten some for maybe &#036;10-&#036;13. The used CD&#39;s are way cheap and they sell in good quality, the cheapest I&#39;ve bought was &#036;4.95&#33;

Andrea
06-17-2003, 11:09 PM
I used to spend &#036;20 on cds a lot. I hated every minute of it.
My city just recently got a Best Buy and I was actually happy to see cd&#39;s for &#036;6.99, &#036;9.99, &#036;11.99 etc. :)
No more spending &#036;20 for a cd for me&#33; :D

Rybullet
06-17-2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Bryan+Jun 17 2003, 11:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bryan @ Jun 17 2003, 11:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--sup103@Jun 17 2003, 03:10 PM
I think the artists wouldnt push the record companies to lower prices, they get paid off CD&#39;s, after all.

The 6 out of the last 11 CD&#39;s ive bought (Linkin Park, Finger Eleven, Cold, Third Eye Blind, Staind, Metallica) have contained DVD&#39;s.
No they don&#39;t.

The record company&#39;s pay a band to make an album. Let&#39;s say Linkin Park got paid 5 million to make Meteora. Meteora could have sold 100 albums total, world wide, Linkin Park would have still got paid 5 million. [/b][/quote]
Are you sure about that........ I think that it is only when you have a record deal do you get paid to make a CD...... I remember reading somewhere that Godsmack had to pay money out of their own pockets to make their first CD..

User Name
06-18-2003, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by Todd@Jun 17 2003, 06:34 PM
WalMarts also cheap, but make sure you&#39;re not getting the edited version when you go there.
If you call 23 bucks for the Meteora Special Edition cheap, then something is wrong with you. Oh, and I forgot to mention that it was on sale as well.

Amy
06-18-2003, 01:16 AM
Cds are way to much. The cheapest I have ever found one is &#036;18. I want to buy the Unloco cd, but it is &#036;35. There is NO way I am paying that much for it... thats just stupid... :angry:

Todd
06-18-2003, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by Cameron+Jun 17 2003, 08:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cameron @ Jun 17 2003, 08:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Todd@Jun 17 2003, 06:34 PM
WalMarts also cheap, but make sure you&#39;re not getting the edited version when you go there.
If you call 23 bucks for the Meteora Special Edition cheap, then something is wrong with you. Oh, and I forgot to mention that it was on sale as well. [/b][/quote]
holy #### that is expensive. It was 15 bucks when it came out&#33;

Unloco&#39;s CD cost me 12 bucks at best buy, 35 is expensive but probably since you&#39;re in Austrilia. It would probably be cheaper to buy it at Amazon.com and pay international shipping charges.

Magick
06-18-2003, 01:54 AM
I&#39;ve stopped going to most chain record stores (Sam Goody :whistle: ). I get my CDs from this independently-owned record store where no CD is more than &#036;13. It&#39;s just that it takes me about 45 minutes to get there so I don&#39;t go often.
I do like places like Best Buy and Target, though. But don&#39;t go to Wal-Mart &#39;cause one of my teachers said that they edit cursing without putting on the sticker sometimes.

About the high CD prices... I heard there actually was a conspiracy by record companies to charge high prices for CDs, and for a while on www.musiccdsettlement.com (I&#39;m not sure if they&#39;re still doing it), you could find out how to get up to &#036;20 back if you bought a CD from 1995 (I think? I read this a while ago) to 2000.

Todd
06-18-2003, 03:29 AM
Yep, Wal Mart only sells censored versions because little kids cant hear words like "hell". Yet, if I was old enough, after picking up a censored version of a disc in the electronics department, I can head on over to the guns department and get me a rifle or 2.


I get most of my CDs at Target because they&#39;re unedited and I get 10% off CDs there :whistle:

elie
06-18-2003, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by Todd@Jun 18 2003, 03:29 AM
Yep, Wal Mart only sells censored versions because little kids cant hear words like "hell". Yet, if I was old enough, after picking up a censored version of a disc in the electronics department, I can head on over to the guns department and get me a rifle or 2.


I get most of my CDs at Target because they&#39;re unedited and I get 10% off CDs there :whistle:
They don&#39;t sell guns anymore (I heard something about it on the news, that they will no longer be supplying such things).

BTW, the guns were for hunting with a hunting license? I don&#39;t know for sure, correct me if i&#39;m wrong.

User Name
06-18-2003, 03:50 AM
Originally posted by Todd+Jun 18 2003, 01:24 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Todd @ Jun 18 2003, 01:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Cameron@Jun 17 2003, 08:13 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Todd@Jun 17 2003, 06:34 PM
WalMarts also cheap, but make sure you&#39;re not getting the edited version when you go there.
If you call 23 bucks for the Meteora Special Edition cheap, then something is wrong with you. Oh, and I forgot to mention that it was on sale as well.
holy #### that is expensive. It was 15 bucks when it came out&#33;

Unloco&#39;s CD cost me 12 bucks at best buy, 35 is expensive but probably since you&#39;re in Austrilia. It would probably be cheaper to buy it at Amazon.com and pay international shipping charges. [/b][/quote]
Uhh... I&#39;m from Canada. :wth:

Stuey_345
06-18-2003, 04:02 AM
I would think that with things like Kazaa, retailers would lower CD prices. Some people, like me, download cd&#39;s only because they are too expensive to buy. i would buy all my cd&#39;s if they were cheaper.

However, i would never download a LP cd. I will always support them and PURCHASE their cd&#39;s no matter what the price

CinnamonSpider
06-18-2003, 04:17 AM
i know, what&#39;s up with walmart?
they will no longer have Maxim magazines? (yes, i read them :D it&#39;s better than girl magazines&#33;) that&#39;s absurd&#33; :angry:

Yep, record stores like Tower Records, Sam Goody, and Warehouse Music(well, they closed most of their locations.) have unreasonable CD prices&#33; &#036;17.99 for a CD with about 14 tracks? If the CD contained other features like LP&#39;s Meteora, i wouldn&#39;t mind paying that price. Linkin Park made the CD worth buying; they took the time to make a DVD documenting the process of making an album and a booklet containing their artwork. :) Which stresses the fact they do not take their success for granted. Other bands and Recod Labels don&#39;t try anymore, and that&#39;s why many people turn to downloading their music instead and then they complain about losing money :rolleyes:

Enough of that, i buy my CDs for &#036;9.99 at Best Buy :D
their CDs are really cheap, maybe because they mostly sell appliances and make most of their money on them and they could set their CD prices really low ^_^ whatever it may be, they ######&#39; rock&#33;

Amy
06-18-2003, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by Cameron+Jun 18 2003, 01:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cameron @ Jun 18 2003, 01:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Todd@Jun 18 2003, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by -Cameron@Jun 17 2003, 08:13 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Todd@Jun 17 2003, 06:34 PM
WalMarts also cheap, but make sure you&#39;re not getting the edited version when you go there.
If you call 23 bucks for the Meteora Special Edition cheap, then something is wrong with you. Oh, and I forgot to mention that it was on sale as well.
holy #### that is expensive. It was 15 bucks when it came out&#33;

Unloco&#39;s CD cost me 12 bucks at best buy, 35 is expensive but probably since you&#39;re in Austrilia. It would probably be cheaper to buy it at Amazon.com and pay international shipping charges.
Uhh... I&#39;m from Canada. :wth: [/b][/quote]
He was talking to me ^_^

It cost me about 30 for Meteora.

I might do what you said, Todd. I will just have to look and stuff. Either that or I will wait till the price goes down.

Todd
06-18-2003, 04:55 AM
Originally posted by elie@Jun 17 2003, 10:38 PM
the guns were for hunting with a hunting license? I don&#39;t know for sure, correct me if i&#39;m wrong.
even if the guns were for a hunting license, you can hurt someone more with a gun than you can with the word "f**k"



I agree with Stuey. I&#39;d buy CDs if they weren&#39;t so dang expensive. Despite the fact I have a fast cable modem, downloading from Kazaa is a pain in the ass. Finding 14 songs, then worrying that they&#39;re either crappy sound quality, fakes, cut off at the end, whatever is a female dog. Then you dont even get the original artwork and stuff that came with it. By the time I download and burn a sucessful, decent sounding CD, I could have driven to a CD store and back, but while some CDs are 15 bucks, it isnt worth it.