North Korean Dictator Kim Jong Il DEAD

[Rebecca Black]

Here's the article: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5izIlSjdJ6OnbxnvsA8REol_H-PpA?docId=e4eb9efdbd884d2fbff01ada250d87de

What do you think will happen in the future for North Korea? South Korea? The World?

[Todd]

Poor rittle Kim :ronery:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kToyVB2BllY

[Pidgeon]

wow, while I'm never one to celebrate someone's death I do hope this will bring some much needed stability to north korea and thereby the rest of the world but if I'm not mistaken his son was already strating to take his place and I don't see much change coming from him

[Derek The Infamous]

Nothing will change. His son will take over, and sometimes the son is worse than the father. I see no change at all.

[Benjamin]

He was no different if not worse than his father. I don't see why this time around would be any different.

On a different note, I've already seen 3 commenters say something like "lulz he died at 69." Makes me embarrassed to be of the same species as them.

[esaul17]

It is a crime Hitchens did not live to see this.

[Rocky]

I found this hilarious.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110520152015AA42rgd

The only thing that changes with his death is that there is one less hypocritical leader with a bomb.

[Pictureboard]

homefront anyone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6NiAGu4_8s

[jedibeaner]

North Korea is very unpredictable state.
Its hard to imagined his 27-year old son, Kim Jong-Un, taking power right away. Kim Jong-Un has only been groomed and presented as North Korea's predecessor for about 1 year, while Kim Jong-il was groomed all his life. I believe that Kim Jong-Un is not ready to lead yet, leaving North Korea quiet for sometime.

[travz21]

North Korea is one of the worst countries in the world. No matter how unprepared someone is to lead it, it can't get much worse.

[jedibeaner]

It can get worse. Any violent move by North or South Korea can lead to a major war in the region. Its best not to have someone who is unprepared head of state.

[Rocky]

It can get worse. Any violent move by North or South Korea can lead to a major war in the region. Its best not to have someone who is unprepared head of state. That is the ONLY thing that could make North Korea worse. It's pretty ridiculous. Korea as a whole needs to unite, and that would save the shit out of North Korea. There's no sense in the north or south attacking each other. They have nothing to gain by doing so.

[El Muerto]

I bet that no one in North Korea is actually happy about this, it's known that his son is even worse.

[Pidgeon]

ya see, theres nothing to really be happy about in this situation. This isn't like Saddam or Osama. Things could actually get worse

[SuperDude526]

Nothing will change. His son will take over, and sometimes the son is worse than the father. I see no change at all.

This. Same old, same old.

[Blackee Dammet]

I blame America.

[Timothy]

I bet that no one in North Korea is actually happy about this, it's known that his son is even worse.

This is what I've been hearing from people who know way more about North Korea than I do. Those people can't catch a fucking break.

[F-ck Casey]

Say hello to the new dictator, the same as the old dictator.

This is how the world ends, btw.

[travz21]

Should the Occupy Wall Street people be happy that a tyrannical dictator died, or should they be sad that a man who ensured equality among his people and reigned in corporations has now passed? Those OWS peeps love equality.

[Blackout[LP]]

Here you slander the DPRK, call it the worst country in the world, but you do not know anything about it really. Let me tell you a recent story, which I very shocked. In general, in my home town in Russia lived before a Korean. He is now over 80 years. He moved to town in the days of Stalin, he was deported. So now the DPRK authorities have found him here in Russia and asked him to move to North Korea, while he gave a free two-bedroom apartment and pay him a monthly allowance of $ 1,000. How do you? And this is the worst country in the world :lol:

[travz21]

What?


And it's not the absolute worst. It's a tie with Somalia.

[Todd]

;1096356']Here you slander the DPRK, call it the worst country in the world, but you do not know anything about it really. Let me tell you a recent story, which I very shocked. In general, in my home town in Russia lived before a Korean. He is now over 80 years. He moved to town in the days of Stalin, he was deported. So now the DPRK authorities have found him here in Russia and asked him to move to North Korea, while he gave a free two-bedroom apartment and pay him a monthly allowance of $ 1,000. How do you? And this is the worst country in the world :lol:

You really have no idea about what goes on inside of North Korea, do you? The people there are dirt poor, tens of thousands die of starvation, if you dare disagree with the government, you get sent to prison or killed with no trial, no due process, nothing. North Koreans are isolated from the rest of the world. They have no access to the internet, no access to media other than what the government puts out. They are taught complete falsehoods, like Kim Jong Il was responsible for the weather, or he invented an invisible phone to communicate with North Korea's World Cup team, or he went golfing and had 18 hole in ones.

I would rather be homeless without a single dollar to my name anywhere in the US than be living in a free apartment with a $1,000 allowance in North Korea. That apartment and allowance comes with a price, and that price is he has to dedicate his entire life to North Korea and do what the North Korean government says or risk getting killed.

[Rocky]

What?


And it's not the absolute worst. It's a tie with Somalia.

The winner of absolute worst country in the world (according to human rights violations) is.......

Eritrea!

followed by North Korea.

I'm surprised I can't find Somalia's position. I've never heard someone who has ever been there say something like "Oh no, it was fine! I didn't get shot at the entire trip!"

[Mitch]

I found this quite interesting: http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/northkorea.jpg

[Timothy]

http://kimjongildroppingthebass.tumblr.com/

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwh84wbBYB1r8bj5ko1_500.jpg

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwi7e19vjF1r8bj5ko1_500.jpg

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwh6pcWOON1r8bj5ko1_500.jpg

[Blackout[LP]]

"They have no access to the internet" - better vision, back straighter :D
"They are taught complete falsehoods, like Kim Jong Il was responsible for the weather" - when we had a rebellion against the fraudulent elections, said on television that Moscow rallies to celebrate the victory of the party "United Russia". Censorship is everywhere, not only in North Korea. Not yet known where better to live: in a country with a totalitarian regime, but where the government provides you with all or in a free country, but where the government spit on you.

[Todd]

The choice is a totalitarian regime where the government spits on you or a free country where the government spits on you. I'll take the free country with a little bit of government propaganda over the totalitarian regime that is nothing but propaganda any day.

[Rocky]

The choice is a totalitarian regime where the government spits on you or a free country where the government spits on you. I'll take the free country with a little bit of government propaganda over the totalitarian regime that is nothing but propaganda any day. Totally.

http://www.wsbtv.com/videos/ap/top-news/are-north-koreans-tears-genuine-or-fake/vFZD6/

check this out! The crying is ridiculous!

[Benjamin]

;1096642']"They have no access to the internet" - better vision, back straighter :D
"They are taught complete falsehoods, like Kim Jong Il was responsible for the weather" - when we had a rebellion against the fraudulent elections, said on television that Moscow rallies to celebrate the victory of the party "United Russia". Censorship is everywhere, not only in North Korea. Not yet known where better to live: in a country with a totalitarian regime, but where the government provides you with all or in a free country, but where the government spit on you.

I understand that you've probably seen some terrible things in Russia, but you should realize that it can get A LOT worse (case in point: North Korea).

[Pidgeon]

;1096642']"They have no access to the internet" - better vision, back straighter :D
"They are taught complete falsehoods, like Kim Jong Il was responsible for the weather" - when we had a rebellion against the fraudulent elections, said on television that Moscow rallies to celebrate the victory of the party "United Russia". Censorship is everywhere, not only in North Korea. Not yet known where better to live: in a country with a totalitarian regime, but where the government provides you with all or in a free country, but where the government spit on you.

not to minimize your problems or anything dude, but I can pretty much guarantee you have it better than the North Koreans dude.

[Blackout[LP]]

I understand that you've probably seen some terrible things in Russia, but you should realize that it can get A LOT worse (case in point: North Korea).
I certainly don't urge to come back for totalitarianism, but I would like to notice that besides that the state has simply granted to people the democratic rights and freedom, it is necessary to care of people, to provide with their wide social rights, to develop economy, army. We have which year a degradation. Despite all minuses of the Soviet system, in it there were obvious pluses: free apartments for workers of factories, factories and highly skilled workers, total absence of the unemployment, the developed agriculture, completely free education (including the higher обрзование), low level of corruption, free medical aid, the stable prices for the goods. Now it isn't present all. In aggregate all it has led the country to the big problems.

[travz21]

You know that if the government is providing you with "free" things, they have to steal money from other people in order to pay for it? The government never provides anything for free, simply because the government doesn't have money of its own. It takes money from the citizens and just spreads it around. This is why governments can't help the economy. All they do is relocate money and we also have to pay them a salary. So it's even worse than relocating our money. All government does is relocate and drain money from the economy.

Everything the government does can be done by the private sector. The private sector has the advantage of actually having specialists, scientists, economists, etc. that have better knowledge of how to utilize what we want them to do with our money, while the government does not. The private sector is efficient, because if they're not, we won't give them our business and they go bankrupt. The government doesn't have to be efficient, because they get our money no matter what. If we don't pay, they put us in jail.

[Theazninvasion68]

we won't give them our business and they go bankrupt. [/b]

No, hopefully, it's because they'll realize that inefficiency is likely and will eventually lead to profits missed (Not lossed, mind you. Just like potential unachieved. You didn't lose the potential, you just didn't make it.) just due to poor management, wasted money, and shitty accounting.

:) Just a correction.

[travz21]

I'm not sure I follow. I don't know if that was worded awkwardly or if I'm lacking all reading comprehension after being up for 30 hours straight.

[Rebecca Black]

;1096642']"They have no access to the internet" - better vision, back straighter :D
"They are taught complete falsehoods, like Kim Jong Il was responsible for the weather" - when we had a rebellion against the fraudulent elections, said on television that Moscow rallies to celebrate the victory of the party "United Russia". Censorship is everywhere, not only in North Korea. Not yet known where better to live: in a country with a totalitarian regime, but where the government provides you with all or in a free country, but where the government spit on you.

No, you don't understand. North Koreans are brainwashed to death. Even though there have been illegal south korean media into North Korea, most people still think North Korea is heaven and the Kim family is a family of Gods. It has one of the worst cases of famine. Hundreds of thousands of people are in concentration camps just as bad, or even worse than the Nazi concentation camps. If you're accused of doing something "bad", you go to the camp, along with your family and relatives, and your kids and future grandkids have to go there too.

Yes, censorship is everywhere. But not as bad as North Korea. Despite the fact that their literacy rate is 99%, it's one of the world's worst countries - if not, the worst.

[Pidgeon]

I guess its official, Kim Jong Un is the new leader, which can only mean that things are going to get worse

[Ryo Hazuki]

@Blackout[LP]

Please read this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_North_Korea#Freedom_of_expression

I mean it, READ it. Do not skim through, read the entire article, and then read Media of North Korea.

It's fucking horrible over there.

And now DARE tell me that North Korea isn't so bad. You can't, it's just not possible for anyone who isn't a piece of shit to want someone to suffer from such lies and death and oppression. . I wouldn't wish the North Koreans peoples reality on anyone, not my enemies, no one.

[Todd]

Forget the Wikipedia article, find 45 minutes of spare time and watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxLBywKrTf4

It's absolutely horrifying. Watch that and then tell me North Korea isn't so bad. Would you want to live there after watching that?

[Blackee Dammet]

The Vice Guide's pretty amazing too;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24R8JObNNQ4

[Gloomy Mushroom]

The choice is a totalitarian regime where the government spits on you or a free country where the government spits on you. I'll take the free country with a little bit of government propaganda over the totalitarian regime that is nothing but propaganda any day.

I prefer George Bush over that midget anyday. The things he put in those people's heads and how he left his country in starvation is sickening. Imagine leaving a country you were not supposed to leave, be called a traitor to the country and be wanted for wanting a better life. I dated a South Korean once in high school and he told me in detail what the North was like. But I do agree with Todd.