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SuperDude526
07-17-2011, 06:15 PM
Anyone here familiar with Carl Sagan's work? I'm not terribly well-versed in Sagan's writing and science myself, but I'd like to share a quote with you all, one that resonates deeply with me. I think LP's recent album actually hits on it quite well, and it's something to keep in mind with all the chaos around us in current events. It starts with this image of our home, planet Earth, seen from almost 4 billion miles away:

http://home.honolulu.hawaii.edu/~pine/bluedot_files/bluedot.jpg


From this distant vantage point, the Earth might not seem of any particular interest. But for us, it's different. Look again at that dot. That's here, that's home, that's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.
Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.
It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.

Discuss this humbling realization.

Dean
07-17-2011, 06:17 PM
I don't think there's a lot to discuss really, it's completely correct.

travz21
07-17-2011, 09:34 PM
Kind of a boring quote actually. There's much better ones out there that I wish I could find. I think Sagan has a lot of good ones, though.

CallofReach141
07-17-2011, 10:35 PM
"Extra-ordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

SuperDude526
07-18-2011, 02:12 AM
Kind of a boring quote actually. There's much better ones out there that I wish I could find. I think Sagan has a lot of good ones, though.

I dunno, it speaks to me. Think of how insignificant all our lives are in comparison to what we're looking at here.

travz21
07-18-2011, 02:42 AM
Yeah. I guess I've been thinking about it for such a long time that simple quotes like these don't move me anymore. You can really get lost in thought when you dive into this kind of awesome shit.

SuperDude526
07-18-2011, 11:21 AM
I think what really makes it for me is the call to action. Like it or not, there's only one Earth, and no habitable planets that our current technology would allow us to travel to, so we better take damn good care of the planet we got.

Harlz
07-18-2011, 01:28 PM
Exactly.
Do you see another blue dot? What we have is incredibly rare, so start fucking looking after it people.

Hybrid
07-18-2011, 01:53 PM
Listen to The album The Black Swan by Story Of The Year. They wrote a record around the concept... There is even a pale blue dot interlude...

Timothy
07-18-2011, 03:49 PM
A dedicated Carl Sagan thread would be really cool.

SuperDude526
07-19-2011, 10:34 AM
A dedicated Carl Sagan thread would be really cool.

Make it so!