View Full Version : Iowa To Allow Same Sex Marriage
Jesse
04-07-2009, 01:59 AM
The Iowa Supreme Court unanimously rejected a state law Friday that banned same-sex marriage, and opponents wasted little time in pushing for a state constitutional amendment that could send the issue to voters.
Source 1 (http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/03/iowa.same.sex/index.html)
Source 2 (http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/03/same-sex-marriage-in-iowa-cue-the-music-man/)
Well I for one think this is great, and being as I don't think Iowa can have anything like prop 8 for a year and a half it makes it even more great. so yeah, I wasn't really expecting this though. Especially not from a mid-eastern state..
:lol:
Vermont just passed a similar law:
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20090407/NEWS/904079986/1350?Title=Vermont-legalizes-gay-marriage
Now if California would just get on with it already! Seriously, Iowa of all the places approved it before California did?
Jesse
04-07-2009, 06:10 PM
Wow, Vermont too? This is really awesome.
And I have no idea how Iowa got it before California, it makes my head spin!
Timothy
04-07-2009, 06:51 PM
But... but... this'll just destroy the American family as we know it! We cannot allow this! I...
Sorry. I think I was struck by a temporary case of illogical dipshit.
[TDWP] Jacob
04-07-2009, 07:54 PM
as far as i concerned
more power to em
gay ppl deserve to be miserable too
:lol:
as far as i concerned
more power to em
gay ppl deserve to be miserable too
:lol:
The funny thing is, Gay couples sometimes work better than Male and Female couples.
It's an odd, but cool thing to see.
Like a punch in the face to yester-year.
lpboarder
05-06-2009, 05:55 PM
Vermont just passed a similar law:
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20090407/NEWS/904079986/1350?Title=Vermont-legalizes-gay-marriage
Now if California would just get on with it already! Seriously, Iowa of all the places approved it before California did?
Its because LA and SF do not speak for the whole state. The last election proved that.
It's about time, but I doubt this is going to last. In another six months, some fascist is going to lobby to have gay marriage banned again.
Theazninvasion68
05-06-2009, 08:17 PM
It's about time, but I doubt this is going to last. In another six months, some fascist Republican is going to lobby to have gay marriage banned again.
I'm quite glad that their readily accepted! :D!
I hope this lasts a quite a long while! ^_^
The funny thing is, Gay couples sometimes work better than Male and Female couples.
It's an odd, but cool thing to see.
Like a punch in the face to yester-year.
It's not as if they could be much worse, anyway.
Jesse
05-07-2009, 07:13 PM
Another state to add to the gay-marriage bill
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8036671.stm
Maine to allow gay marriage.. ?
Actually, the correct term would be Fascist Republican, but I digress.
And yeah, I heard about the Maine thing. Good for them, and I really hope it lasts, but again, it's just a matter of time until someone decides to lobby to have it banned again. It's the people that lobby to ban it that make me lose hope for the human race.
Theazninvasion68
05-07-2009, 08:30 PM
Your a fascist if your a republican, Your a Communist if your democrat.
Pfft. Please. Different Ideals aren't needed to be called to the extreme.
I really hope that it stays for Maine. I mean, I've lost pretty much alot of hope for the human race.
Not passing this would ruin alot of it's redeeming potential.
Jesse
05-07-2009, 08:33 PM
I don't know, there's been a lot of same sex marriage tolerance lately.
Iowa, Vermont, Maine.... all less than 6 months apart. Which I find pretty surprising
But in about half a year it might be put to an end, sadly.
Christopher
05-07-2009, 08:34 PM
The funny thing is, Gay couples sometimes work better than Male and Female couples.
It's an odd, but cool thing to see.
Like a punch in the face to yester-year.
Sometimes.
Gay marriage has not been legalized long enough to establish gay divorce gay marriage statistics. In opposite-sex marriages, divorce rates vary from country to country, although in the West statistics are usually taken to be interchangeable.
In a 2005 study it was found that 60 % of all opposite-sex marriages in the US ended in divorce in the first decade and 80 % in the first 20 years. The divorce rate has been on the decline sine 1980, with 40% of all marriages ending in divorce in 1980, reduced to 31 % by 2002.
I thought I'd read something about how the divorce rates were really high. Right winged propaganda, no doubt.
I believe everyone should have the same rights of getting married. Whether your skin color is darker or lighter, or you are marrying someone the same sex or not, everyone should have the same opportunities. So I'm very glad Iowa passed the law allowing the marriages.
Jesse
05-07-2009, 08:43 PM
I believe should have the same rights of gettiing married. Whether your skin color is darker or lighter, or you are marrying someone the same sex or not, everyone should have the same opportunities. So I'm very glad Iowa passed the law allowing the marriages.
100 % agreement from me
lpboarder
05-08-2009, 08:17 AM
Actually, the correct term would be Fascist Republican, but I digress.
I'm thinking you dont quite have the grasp of the term "fascist" because if you did you'd know we have a fascist in the White House right now. What else would you call it when the government owns/runs private corporations and the disdain of Republicans and conservatives that is being spewed by our media on a daily basis? This country is beginning to go down a path it may never recover from when our great grandchildren inherit more than just the debt we are saddling them with right now. The scary part, no one in the general population seems to even care.
I'm thinking you dont quite have the grasp of the term "fascist" because if you did you'd know we have a fascist in the White House right now. What else would you call it when the government owns/runs private corporations and the disdain of Republicans and conservatives that is being spewed by our media on a daily basis? This country is beginning to go down a path it may never recover from when our great grandchildren inherit more than just the debt we are saddling them with right now. The scary part, no one in the general population seems to even care.
It varies really. Obama seems to have some policies in line with some implemented by fascism, but the same goes for the average conservative as it implements stuff from both ends of the spectrum. As I understand it fascism is essentially socialism with added hyper-nationalist and imperialist elements.
Being anti-gay marriage on a moral level is definitely fascist in my view, because fascism puts extra emphasis on social Darwinism and traditional relationships between a man and a woman where the latter is submissive to the former, and there isn't a lot to differentiate between that and the reasons people normally give for being against it.
I believe everyone should have the same rights of getting married. Whether your skin color is darker or lighter, or you are marrying someone the same sex or not, everyone should have the same opportunities. So I'm very glad Iowa passed the law allowing the marriages.
Same here.
I'm thinking you dont quite have the grasp of the term "fascist" because if you did you'd know we have a fascist in the White House right now. What else would you call it when the government owns/runs private corporations and the disdain of Republicans and conservatives that is being spewed by our media on a daily basis? This country is beginning to go down a path it may never recover from when our great grandchildren inherit more than just the debt we are saddling them with right now. The scary part, no one in the general population seems to even care.
No, I know exactly what fascist means, and what fascism is. I'm referring not to Republicans in general, but the Republicans who consistently lobby to ban gay marriage. It sickens me, and yes, from a moral standpoint, I see them as fascists.
I don't see what you're talking about with the media thing. That's been happening for ages, and it's not because of who's in office.
lpboarder
05-08-2009, 11:56 PM
No, I know exactly what fascist means, and what fascism is. I'm referring not to Republicans in general, but the Republicans who consistently lobby to ban gay marriage. It sickens me, and yes, from a moral standpoint, I see them as fascists.
So it is just that group of people you think are fascist? What if they held similar beliefs to yours on everything but gay marriage, are they still fascists then? I think you cant pigeonhole one particular group of people like that.
I don't see what you're talking about with the media thing. That's been happening for ages, and it's not because of who's in office.
I actually applaud you for saying that because it has been that way for a long time. Yet one news outlet, FoxNews, has a different skew on it and they are the liars, crooks, etc.
So it is just that group of people you think are fascist? What if they held similar beliefs to yours on everything but gay marriage, are they still fascists then? I think you cant pigeonhole one particular group of people like that.
I actually applaud you for saying that because it has been that way for a long time. Yet one news outlet, FoxNews, has a different skew on it and they are the liars, crooks, etc.
What I'm saying is that type of behavior is in line with fascist ideals. Not Republicans in general. I should have made myself clear on that point.
And as for news outlets... I hate them all, pretty much. They blow everything out of proportion, and present things in a highly biased manner. It's ridiculous.
lpboarder
05-11-2009, 06:27 PM
And as for news outlets... I hate them all, pretty much. They blow everything out of proportion, and present things in a highly biased manner. It's ridiculous.
I do too. I've actually been listening to more talk radio because the TV news just irks me. The only TV news I watch anymore is local.
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