Phil Schneider

[Babali]

Phil Schneider was an extraordinarily brave man who knew that he was going to be killed because of the information he was revealing to the American public in the Spring/Summer of 1995. He was murdered on or about January 10, 1996 in Oregon.

Phil was a geologist, structural engineer, and underground tunneling expert who participated in the construction of many deep underground cities and bases in North America and abroad for the government. In May of 1995, suffering from terminal cancer, he began giving talks in Las Vegas describing in detail the underground cities, the government's secret deal with negative aliens, high alien technology being employed by the government-including "corbamite" (element 140), mining on the moon, FEMA and martial law, the coming New World Order takeover, the Alien/ NWO genocide agenda to reduce the earth's population by 85% before 2029, and a host of other stunning revelations.

Watch his lecture, beginning here:

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This man had his fingers shot off by an alien, his chest blown open, and was later killed for giving out this information. May he R.I.P., and may we not let his life go wasted, okay? It's time for the world to wake up. :)

Much love, Babali

[Dean]

I know a little bit about 'alien'-related stuff and I guess I am an advocate of some of it on a basic level, but this is too crazy for even me to believe, whether it's real or not.

[Daniel]

I'm sorry, but I can't help but lol @ a lot of these 'revelations'. Next he'll be saying the aliens are in on a conspiracy between zombie Hitler, the Jews, Big Foot and the KKK to rule the world or something.

[Will]

You should maybe stop making threads now.

[Mark]

Are you insane?

[Daniel]

Are you insane?

:lol: . Kudos to the kid for having the guts to actually post something like this, but jeez....

[El Muerto]

*music from twilight zone*

lololololol

[Will]

:lol: . Kudos to the kid for having the guts to actually post something like this, but jeez....

I agree. I believe that there is extraterrestrial life, maybe not advanced enough to even know what fire is, but I believe it's out there somewhere.

This, however, is just a tad on the ridiculous side of things.

I read this guy's article on Wikipedia, and it sounded like the synopsis from a bad (a very bad) sci-fi flick.

[Luke]

I think this guys a bit extreme but I wouldn't say all of his stuff is nonsense by any means. The alien part however is. :lol:

David Icke and Alex Jones talk alot about the upcoming events in the world that could possibly lead to martial law and a new world order involving a worldwide police state and to be honest all the signs that they've pointed out have actually come true.

David Icke's opinions are a bit more extreme in that he reckons that the government or any one with any significant power has the same bloodline as reptilian beings who descended to our planet thousands of years ago and breeded with human beings imputting their secrets of knowledge and power into their minds. It sounds pretty stupid but there's actually evidence that the acient Mayan civilisation told of beings who came to earth and shared with humans their knowledge of the universe. For those of you who can't be assed to research any of this then just watch Indiana Jones and the Kingdom Of The Crystal skull. :lol:

One thing I'm certain of is that we are heading for a global police state. All signs point to it and the stupid thing is that people will be so afraid of their fellow man that they'll be practically brainwashed into accepting that. Anyone who wants to know more about this kind of stuff without the element of obscenity should check out infowars.com. Alex Jones gets a bit carried away sometimes but he speaks alot of sense. One thing you must never do though is just take in the words these people say. You're much better off researching it on your own.

By the way, just in case anyone thinks people who believe in stuff like this are paranoid conspiracy theorists then let me give you a piece of advice: disregard nothing until you yourself can prove it's false. I know that's a slight contradication as I said the alien thing was nonsense but in all honesty I can't prove it's nonsense but niether can Mr. Schneider prove it's not.

[Babali]

I hope you guys actually took the time to watch it. I don't know how a guy can fake his stomache being torn open, his fingers being blown off, his attempted assassinations, and his eventual murder 7 months later.

Come on. I know it all sounds a little ridiculous, but this guy was killed for saying these things. It might seem insane, but that's what our society has been completely formed to... to think the truth is absolutely crazy. It's not my fault you've been fooled by these guys. So many people have, sadly. I'm just trying to share so it has been put in front of you. You just have to look at it.

Much love, Babali

[Dean]

David Icke's opinions are a bit more extreme in that he reckons that the government or any one with any significant power has the same bloodline as reptilian beings who descended to our planet thousands of years ago and breeded with human beings imputting their secrets of knowledge and power into their minds.
That's pretty much what the NWO is supposed to be.

I agree though, with the two points you ended the post on.

[Will]

I hope you guys actually took the time to watch it. I don't know how a guy can fake his stomache being torn open, his fingers being blown off, his attempted assassinations, and his eventual murder 7 months later.

Come on. I know it all sounds a little ridiculous, but this guy was killed for saying these things. It might seem insane, but that's what our society has been completely formed to... to think the truth is absolutely crazy. It's not my fault you've been fooled by these guys. So many people have, sadly. I'm just trying to share so it has been put in front of you. You just have to look at it.

Much love, Babali

I mean you no offense, and I respect your opinions (which you're preaching as if they're fact), but there are a lot of logical explanations for all of those things.

There are claims that he was murdered. But the likely explanation is that he was sick of being a nut-job and decided to off himself before someone did do it for him.

[Luke]

I hope you guys actually took the time to watch it. I don't know how a guy can fake his stomache being torn open, his fingers being blown off, his attempted assassinations, and his eventual murder 7 months later.

Come on. I know it all sounds a little ridiculous, but this guy was killed for saying these things. It might seem insane, but that's what our society has been completely formed to... to think the truth is absolutely crazy. It's not my fault you've been fooled by these guys. So many people have, sadly. I'm just trying to share so it has been put in front of you. You just have to look at it.

Much love, Babali

I agree that people need to wake up and realise that there's some pretty serious shit coming over the horizon but one thing I hate is when people try to force opinions on other people. Let them find out for themselves. I think you'll find that, while the majority of people do tend to follow the news and the government like sheep, people aren't stupid and more and more people are starting to question what's going on.

[Will]

I'll agree that a lot of weird things go on within every government that no one's aware of (for good reasons and bad reasons) but this is just a little ridiculous.

This is almost as bad as the guy who filmed a documentary of a supposed "interview" with an alien. The whole thing was a huge joke.

Just because some guy claims a bunch of seemingly movie-esque things happened to him doesn't mean they're the truth. I could go into hiding for a year and come back with some huge, overblown story, but that doesn't mean it's true in the slightest.

Hell, my uncle was stationed at Dover Air Force Base for several years; he could've made up a lot of bullshit stories, but he didn't, because he's not insane.

[Babali]

He was dying of cancer already, but was strangled before the lecture. The claims on Wikipedia are false, obviously. Of course someone edited Wikipedia. I don't know why you think you'd be able to go to Wikipedia and get the truth about the government. To think that is as ridiculous as thinking that they have any credibility at all for all of the lies they've spread. The government has been doing this and planning this for over 60 years, and they know what they are doing much more than you know what they are doing. They have the smartest people with them. They don't make mistakes, either. They're so much smarter than you must think they are. Of course they have secret technologies, of course we're not alone (the Apollo astronauts even admit this), of course our government lies. To think it's insane is to buy in to todays propaganda, but that's just my opinion, and I'm not calling any of you insane for following what seems logical because of your indoctrination. I understand, and I know you're not insane. Well, I'm not insane, either, and I do know a little bit about what I'm talking about, I believe, and I wouldn't share it with you guys in a Serious Chat if I didn't believe you should probably hear it. Whether you agree or disagree is up to you to decide, but there is much more information out there than this video of a guy with cancer, murdered, who tried to spread the truth. If you think that Wikipedia is going to tell you the truth about this guy, well, I have just as much right to call you insane, but I'm not gonna. Stop with the name-calling, instant assumptions, and look into it like I said, please. :) If you don't want to do that, don't participate in this conversation.

Much love, Babali

[Messy Marj]

To think it's insane is to buy in to todays propaganda, but that's just my opinion, and I'm not calling any of you insane for following what seems logical because of your indoctrination.

Indoctrination? =.=
You seem to act superior and arrogant, but that's just my opinion.

[Timothy]

http://ufc-fights.com/wp-content/uploads/public-enemy.jpg

FIGHT THA POWER!!

[El Muerto]

He was dying of cancer already, but was strangled before the lecture. The claims on Wikipedia are false, obviously. Of course someone edited Wikipedia. I don't know why you think you'd be able to go to Wikipedia and get the truth about the government. To think that is as ridiculous as thinking that they have any credibility at all for all of the lies they've spread. The government has been doing this and planning this for over 60 years, and they know what they are doing much more than you know what they are doing. They have the smartest people with them. They don't make mistakes, either. They're so much smarter than you must think they are. Of course they have secret technologies, of course we're not alone (the Apollo astronauts even admit this), of course our government lies. To think it's insane is to buy in to todays propaganda, but that's just my opinion, and I'm not calling any of you insane for following what seems logical because of your indoctrination. I understand, and I know you're not insane. Well, I'm not insane, either, and I do know a little bit about what I'm talking about, I believe, and I wouldn't share it with you guys in a Serious Chat if I didn't believe you should probably hear it. Whether you agree or disagree is up to you to decide, but there is much more information out there than this video of a guy with cancer, murdered, who tried to spread the truth. If you think that Wikipedia is going to tell you the truth about this guy, well, I have just as much right to call you insane, but I'm not gonna. Stop with the name-calling, instant assumptions, and look into it like I said, please. :) If you don't want to do that, don't participate in this conversation.

Much love, Babali

Yeah, we shouldn't trust wikipedia, we shouldn't trust our governments, we shouldn't trust our friends and families but we should trust you and some wacko that claims he was abducted by aliens.
No offence but this is bullshit, and if you really believe this and take it all seriously, you'll be made fun of just like that idol of yours probalby was.

Much love, Dušan

[Messy Marj]

Much love, Dušan
I lol'd :lol:

[Timothy]

Anal probes...

Discuss.

[Dean]

http://ufc-fights.com/wp-content/uploads/public-enemy.jpg

FIGHT THA POWER!!
Even Flava Flav's clock was recovered from an alien crash sight. Nothing is sacred in the light of this.

[Babali]

Indoctrination? =.=
You seem to act superior and arrogant, but that's just my opinion.

I had no intention of coming across as arrogant or superior, and for that I apologize. I think everyone deserves to know the same truth and try to live peacefully together. I think that we all need to be honest with each other and loving to each other as much as possible. We need to be communicating and working together instead of fighting and lying. I'm not trying to sound arrogant at all, I'm just tired of people being lied to, and I thought I'd share some information I know. Take it how you want.

['Said it was up to us to decide', and I don't think he made that album, dropped from his label, and has been doing what he's doing for no reason.]

[Chris.]

Yeah our government is secretly planning a genocide with the aliens. What the hell are you smoking?

[Chris(tmas)]

http://ufc-fights.com/wp-content/uploads/public-enemy.jpg

FIGHT THA POWER!!
OMG whats that flying thing in the right corner?!

[Chris.]

Don't you all realize Public Enemy is in on it!? They're ambassadors from Venus sent to destroy us all!

[Chris(tmas)]

I GET IT!

Public Enemy.. aliens. Aliens are our public enemy!

Man.. I've never noticed that before.

[Will]

Yeah, we shouldn't trust wikipedia, we shouldn't trust our governments, we shouldn't trust our friends and families but we should trust you and some wacko that claims he was abducted by aliens.
No offence but this is bullshit, and if you really believe this and take it all seriously, you'll be made fun of just like that idol of yours probalby was.

Much love, Dušan

You're my favorite person in the world.

@Bibidi babidi boo:
I'll believe Wikipedia over some crackpot who claims he got in a firefight with aliens in a place that conveniently doesn't exist.

[Luke]

It's quite funny actually...so many people believe that an old geezer built an arc and rounded up 2 of every animal during some huge global flood and that some guy who wore sandals walked on water, healed people and performed other miracles but when you're talking about a war with aliens YOU'RE INSANE!!!:lol:

[Dean]

It's quite funny actually...so many people believe that an old geezer built an arc and rounded up 2 of every animal during some huge global flood and that some guy who wore sandals walked on water, healed people and performed other miracles but when you're talking about a war with aliens YOU'RE INSANE!!!:lol:
It's not as if everyone who doesn't believe one believes the other.

[Messy Marj]

The difference between those things is that the bible is part of a very old religion while this random guy just started to spread around his little story about aliens. Yeah, I make no sense, but I can't find the right words. But I don't agree with you there Luke.

[Dean]

The difference between those things is that the bible is part of a very old religion while this random guy just started to spread around his little story about aliens. Yeah, I make no sense, but I can't find the right words. But I don't agree with you there Luke.
I understand you completely, and it's a fair point.

[Nick]

Hmmmmm.....Aliens....I think I'll grab a coke

[Luke]

The difference between those things is that the bible is part of a very old religion while this random guy just started to spread around his little story about aliens. Yeah, I make no sense, but I can't find the right words. But I don't agree with you there Luke.

Yeah but theoretically he could have turned his preachings into a following/religion. There's absolutely no difference in my opinion which is why, no matter how farfetched the idea of this guy doing battle with aliens is it's disrespectful to call him insane. Is the Pope insane for believing he is the direct link between humans and god? Is it insane to believe in ghosts? Is it insane to believe in luck? The fact of the matter is that it's something that we can't prove. It's his word and he swears by it. Quite frankly I don't believe him but I don't think of him as insane, I just don't believe it.

Let me put it like this: how would you all like it if your views/beliefs were mocked? I find it staggering that you're allowed to call this guy insane but in parts of the world if you call a certain religion insane then you're prosecuted or worse.

@Dean: I never said nor implyed that.

[Will]

There's a difference in believing in something with a concrete beliefs system like religion as opposed to believing in aliens shooting your fingers off when you probably just cut them off while you were making dinner one night.

[Dean]

Luke: You seem to have been implying it. Oh well.

[Nick]

There's a difference in believing in something with a concrete beliefs system like religion as opposed to believing in aliens shooting your fingers off when you probably just cut them off while you were making dinner one night.

Yeah, What this guy was trying to do was Make what he said FACT.

Those stories like Noah's Ark Just support the religion which Try's to create A good way to live.

[Dean]

Not to mention Noah's ark was at least supposed to have happened somewhere that definitely exists.

[Luke]

You guys are missing my point completely.

To sum it up in a nutshell: you can't dismiss what you can't prove no matter how ridiculous it sounds to you.

I don't think he's telling the truth but to be honest it wouldn't be the first time that someone was branded insane for thinking something which the general majority thought wasn't true/real.

[Timothy]

Yeah, What this guy was trying to do was Make what he said FACT.

Those stories like Noah's Ark Just support the religion which Try's to create A good way to live.

Exactly. True there are some who interpret the bible literally, but that's ultimately up to the individual. On the other hand, this guy is talking about gun battles with aliens from the planet Zorkon and political subterfuge with the American government as if the History Channel should be doing a program on it.

Why would aliens have a deal with some puny group of humanoids anyway? Especially if they can blow off our appendages with lasers.

[Messy Marj]

Like Will said, this guy could've mutilated himself one day and the next day he'd make up an exciting alien story. I just don't buy that shit, I just don't.

[Dean]

Everyone knows aliens are really pacifists who only ever go as far as playing pranks and eating cats.

[Will]

Everyone knows aliens are really pacifists who only ever go as far as playing pranks and eating cats.

Wait, what's that from?

[El Muerto]

Here's a picture from my last abduction. Man, we go sooo wasted, I can't wait for these guys to come back for me again..

[Theazninvasion68]

http://www.pacsteam.pt.vu/


I believe some of it, at least, the parts that have been proved true by documentation.

Which point towards NWO. Least read something there, or a video or two.


Buy a few Guns, while you can, imo, And refuse RFID chips, make it public more often.

[Todd]

So you think global warming, something with actual scientific evidence to back it up, is a scam, but you believe this shit?

[Will]

So you think global warming, something with actual scientific evidence to back it up, is a scam, but you believe this shit?

I failed to make that connection between his threads. Good job. :lol:

[Harlz]

Anal probes...

Discuss.

Good shit.


But seriously, this guy made up this bullshit story to make a bit of cash I'd say.

But respect to Babali for having the guts to start discussion based on a veeerrry alternative view.

[F-ck Casey]

even if his opinions are totally out of orbit (sorry) and from left field, whatever happen to respecting someone's opinions and discussing things? not just "LOL ALIENS ANAL PROBES!!111!"

seriously guys, i don't think any of you would do this to another well known member who was being completely serious about the issue at hand. or maybe ya'll would, i don't know.

[El Muerto]

Yeah, you're probably right. Sorry Babali, I believe that we are not alone in the universe and all, but I think this is too much even for X-Files. Good luck with convincing people to believe your story.

[Luke]

even if his opinions are totally out of orbit (sorry) and from left field, whatever happen to respecting someone's opinions and discussing things? not just "LOL ALIENS ANAL PROBES!!111!"

seriously guys, i don't think any of you would do this to another well known member who was being completely serious about the issue at hand. or maybe ya'll would, i don't know.

That's the point I tried to get across.

[Timothy]

Many tried to discuss this topic seriously, earlier in the thread. Then we were hit with the revelation that we don't know what the fuck we're talking about. Kind of hard to seriously discuss a topic when every answer can be hit with the whole "everything you know is a lie" angle, anyway.

[Daniel]

Many tried to discuss this topic seriously, earlier in the thread. Then we were hit with the revelation that we don't know what the fuck we're talking about. Kind of hard to seriously discuss a topic when every answer can be hit with the whole "everything you know is a lie" angle, anyway.

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[Will]

Many tried to discuss this topic seriously, earlier in the thread. Then we were hit with the revelation that we don't know what the fuck we're talking about. Kind of hard to seriously discuss a topic when every answer can be hit with the whole "everything you know is a lie" angle, anyway.

Yeah. It's pointless to try to debate something with someone who won't hear your angle and is just going to tell you you're wrong anyway.

[F-ck Casey]

it's an internet message board, who cares? say it anyway, someone is bound to listen.

isn't that a debate? "no, you're wrong, and this is why". "i disagree, and here's why".